I think also people get caught up in the movie and character itself and get a distorted view how big they are.
When wolerine is slashing a whole lot of people and you like the movie and wish you had a set of claws yourself, it inspires you to look like that even though if he stood next to any of the 5 or 8 well developed members of this site he would look tiny.
I’m convinced that started the Brad Pitt in fight club thing, people want to “be” Brad Pitt in flight club (good looking guy, fighting people, having everyone like him), more than they want to “look” like Brad Pitt in fight club whether they know it or not.
Don’t know if that was articulated quite well enough but hopefully someone will get the point.
That, and theres a lot of airbrushing/ make up and all sorts of stuff that goes on to make these guys look far bigger/ more defined/ better looking on screen than they actually are.
Not that some of them haven’t worked hard and have a decent level of development.
[quote]tnationmuscle wrote:
TakeDamage wrote:
i would say yes. OPs not asking if its good or bad morally, just asking if we think they do… straight up question… and i think they do…
am i wrong OP?
true but people here take it personal as if you’ve insulted them directly or something…weird[/quote]
I do see your point. On the other hand, though, if everyone were embraced, this would turn into BB.com quickly.
The thing with Bale is that everyone thinks he did put all that muscle on in a period of 6 weeks. He didn’t. He just barely reached his normal body weight within those 6 weeks, did the audition and then started to train for months. No juice required. Just some bad reporting.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Most of the people here don’t get it. You can not look at someone and use that as a basis for determining steroid use. Plenty of huge guys use steroids. Plenty of huge guys are clean. Plenty of skinny guys use steroids. Plenty of skinny guys are clean.
It is impossible to look at someone (even if you have before and after pics with a specific time frame) and determine what drugs they’ve put in their bodies. This excludes someone like (insert name of random Pro BBer) who stands 5’8 ish 250ish in competition shape. I don’t see any actors looking like top pro BBers, where it would be safe to assume that steroids are part of the result.
Some people use steroids and some people dont. I’m pretty sure actors fall into the category of “some people”.
I know what I’m getting into when I say this but anyone who claims that someone is using steroids to make dramatic gains in a short period of time is trying to justify their sucess in the gym (whether it is a positive or negative point of view). You can preface a post with “I’m not saying they don’t work hard, but…” all you want. The implication is obvious.
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You would think baseball would have clued them in. There are TONS of people on steroids who do NOT look like it AT ALL. There are TONS of really big guys who have never touched a steroid.
Looking at people and trying to claim you can tell who uses and who doesn’t is ridiculous unless speaking about someone so insanely huge (like Markus Rhul) that the only way they could get that big is through drug use.
It is really irritating that skinny people on a bodybuilding website are so caught up in this. Big muscles alone do NOT equal “steroid use”. Gaining a lot of muscle in a short period does NOT equal “steroid use”.
I get that the reason they are able to transform is that for the 6-9 months before they start shooting a movie that requires them to look a certain way, their only job is to eat and train until they have that body.
My question is this. I recently got laid off and essentially have nothing to do for a while but eat and train. I know I need proper rest and everything, but I feel that since I have the extra time I should be utilizing it in the gym. Are there any workout/nutrition programs for a person like myself who has all the time in the world to train and eat?
[quote]nourkah wrote:
I get that the reason they are able to transform is that for the 6-9 months before they start shooting a movie that requires them to look a certain way, their only job is to eat and train until they have that body.
My question is this. I recently got laid off and essentially have nothing to do for a while but eat and train. I know I need proper rest and everything, but I feel that since I have the extra time I should be utilizing it in the gym. Are there any workout/nutrition programs for a person like myself who has all the time in the world to train and eat?[/quote]
No. You have to buy some steroids.
Was that really a serious post? Train 2 times a day and eat more than you do when you train once a day. If it works for you, great. If it doesnt, find something that does. Do you really think that every actor that needs to put on 15 pounds in 3 months uses the same exact program?
I don’t think anyone disagrees with what you or X said, but it is a bit disheartening when many of the more impressive and active posters on this site do in fact take steroids. As to the actors, they don’t need steroids when the big screen adds about 20 pounds of lean mass.
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
I don’t think anyone disagrees with what you or X said, but it is a bit disheartening when many of the more impressive and active posters on this site do in fact take steroids. [/quote]
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
I don’t think anyone disagrees with what you or X said, but it is a bit disheartening when many of the more impressive and active posters on this site do in fact take steroids. As to the actors, they don’t need steroids when the big screen adds about 20 pounds of lean mass. [/quote]
You’re out to lunch. Who are you referring to?
Actually, don’t answer that, lets not drive off the last remaining 8 guys on this site with bigger than average physiques with slander and steroid accusations.
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
but it is a bit disheartening when many of the more impressive and active posters on this site do in fact take steroids. [/quote]
Dude this is a fucking bodybuilding website first and foremost.
I don’t see anyone bitching that football player’s have new concussion saving helmets, or baseball players wear batting gloves. Tiger Woods gets Lasic and his nuts get sucked MORE. WTF is wrong with Bodybuilders making there muscles bigger? Because some dorks in congress think they can distract the sheep we call American’s by turning steroids into the devil?
Glad to see you’ve drank mass media coolaide and hate on steroids too BTW. Christ I know a handful of kids that have done multiple cycles (who don’t know each other) that can’t hold a candle to any of the posters here with muscle. It’s not a fucking magic pill.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
nourkah wrote:
I get that the reason they are able to transform is that for the 6-9 months before they start shooting a movie that requires them to look a certain way, their only job is to eat and train until they have that body.
My question is this. I recently got laid off and essentially have nothing to do for a while but eat and train. I know I need proper rest and everything, but I feel that since I have the extra time I should be utilizing it in the gym. Are there any workout/nutrition programs for a person like myself who has all the time in the world to train and eat?
No. You have to buy some steroids.
Was that really a serious post? Train 2 times a day and eat more than you do when you train once a day. If it works for you, great. If it doesnt, find something that does. Do you really think that every actor that needs to put on 15 pounds in 3 months uses the same exact program? [/quote]
Hmmm… yes that was actually a serious post. I was looking for advice on a workout program since I have more time, and was worried about overtraining, but hey thanks for being a d-bag on t-mag. I don’t care what any of those individuals did, I was asking for advice. You sir, are a dick.
Considering this website and countless others are specifically geared toward giving bodybuilders information on the sport I didn’t really think I was out of line by ASKING A QUESTION. Thanks though. Train and eat more, great advice considering I had already said that I know thats what they do.
Why do we even have websites like this? They should all just be one page with all caps that says TRAIN MORE AND EAT MORE.
[quote]nourkah wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
nourkah wrote:
I get that the reason they are able to transform is that for the 6-9 months before they start shooting a movie that requires them to look a certain way, their only job is to eat and train until they have that body.
My question is this. I recently got laid off and essentially have nothing to do for a while but eat and train. I know I need proper rest and everything, but I feel that since I have the extra time I should be utilizing it in the gym. Are there any workout/nutrition programs for a person like myself who has all the time in the world to train and eat?
No. You have to buy some steroids.
Was that really a serious post? Train 2 times a day and eat more than you do when you train once a day. If it works for you, great. If it doesnt, find something that does. Do you really think that every actor that needs to put on 15 pounds in 3 months uses the same exact program?
Hmmm… yes that was actually a serious post. I was looking for advice on a workout program since I have more time, and was worried about overtraining, but hey thanks for being a d-bag on t-mag. I don’t care what any of those individuals did, I was asking for advice. You sir, are a dick.
Considering this website and countless others are specifically geared toward giving bodybuilders information on the sport I didn’t really think I was out of line by ASKING A QUESTION. Thanks though. Train and eat more, great advice considering I had already said that I know thats what they do.
Why do we even have websites like this? They should all just be one page with all caps that says TRAIN MORE AND EAT MORE. [/quote]
It would save time if it were like that. People who sit at home with no job and worry about “overtraining” are in the wrong forum.
on porn sites. this is a bodybuilding site. they need to quit wasting space with all this so called “information”. It’s all a joke. Train more and eat more. It’s almost TOO simple. I can’t believe he has over 2000 posts. They must all be flames of people who don 't know that training more and eating more are the only two keys to success in bodybuilding.
I’ve come to the conclusion that most of the people posting here don’t even plan to make much progress. They are far too busy trying to find pictures of developed people on the internet and asking if they use steroids based on nothing but their development.
Unfortunately, I’ve seen even dumber things on other forums.
Life must suck if you log onto a bodybuilding forum daily for years but don’t even look like you lift and worry this much about who is taking what.
[quote]nourkah wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
nourkah wrote:
I get that the reason they are able to transform is that for the 6-9 months before they start shooting a movie that requires them to look a certain way, their only job is to eat and train until they have that body.
My question is this. I recently got laid off and essentially have nothing to do for a while but eat and train. I know I need proper rest and everything, but I feel that since I have the extra time I should be utilizing it in the gym. Are there any workout/nutrition programs for a person like myself who has all the time in the world to train and eat?
No. You have to buy some steroids.
Was that really a serious post? Train 2 times a day and eat more than you do when you train once a day. If it works for you, great. If it doesnt, find something that does. Do you really think that every actor that needs to put on 15 pounds in 3 months uses the same exact program?
Hmmm… yes that was actually a serious post. I was looking for advice on a workout program since I have more time, and was worried about overtraining, but hey thanks for being a d-bag on t-mag. I don’t care what any of those individuals did, I was asking for advice. You sir, are a dick.
Considering this website and countless others are specifically geared toward giving bodybuilders information on the sport I didn’t really think I was out of line by ASKING A QUESTION. Thanks though. Train and eat more, great advice considering I had already said that I know thats what they do.
Why do we even have websites like this? They should all just be one page with all caps that says TRAIN MORE AND EAT MORE. [/quote]
It was an extremely vague, ‘spoon-feed me’ question. I think that the members of this site are afraid of it becoming bb.com, so they don’t put up with garbage like that. Sorry, man, lurk a while before posting, I guess.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Dude, Jackman wasn’t that fucking big!
This thread makes me want to stab myself…
Agreed. If most people here haven’t passed up “Jackman level” in their first 2 years of lifting, either their work ethic or their genetics suck much ass. He is very lean in this pic and no doubt does work hard, but his development is NOT, “OMG, he MUST need roidz to look like that!!!” worthy.
There are no doubt actors who use steroids, but acting like their level of development NEEDS steroids to get that look is retarded. In fact, if you don’t think their physiques are attainable without drugs, then this is the wrong activity for you.[/quote]
i said this: everyone freaks out because Huge Jackedman is SOOOOO HUGE DUDE!!!