[quote]Tim Henriques wrote:
new2training wrote:
Tim, I genuinely appreciate the offer, I could use the help. Deadlifted for the first time last fall. I’m 32 and my back and knees have never felt better
I’m about 4 hours away though (near Blacksburg). I left Fairfax several years ago and rarely get back there unless it is to visit my inlaws.
Thanks again for the offer,
New2
New2 - There are a lot of PL meets in Standardsville (near Charlottesville) and Richmond that I go to, if you ever want to meet up there or just come and watch those guys pull let me know and we can set something up.
Being in Blacksburg I hope the Tech thing didn’t hit you too hard. Good luck with the lifting,
Tim[/quote]
Deadlifting 315 may not be inspirational but some people’s willingness to help certainly is.
Thanks Tim. I would love to see a meet and will give you a shout when I can make the time. I have family in Charlottsville I could stay with.
My heart goes out to the victims at Tech but I did not know any of them. One of my friends (police officer) helped pull the victims out of the building just after the 2nd shooting. I’m worried about the effect it will have on him.
I do tend to trust internet deadlifting poundages a little more than other exercises just because the inherent nature of the lift. You either lift it or you don’t. Cheating on a deadlift doesn’t help you but rather the opposite.
When it comes to other exercises, especially the squat, I have no faith in 85.897% of posted poundages unless they are accompanied by video. It’s too easy and commonplace to do partial squats or squats with a superball bounce and post pseudo numbers.
I’ve seen several suspect squat poundages posted here on this thread as well as many other places. As far as I’m concerned if you don’t BREAK parallel on your squat and do the eccentric and concentric motions smoothly and under control I do NOT care to hear what your numbers are. They mean nothing.
I say this because 95.923% of the squatting I see in gyms across North America are partials.[/quote]
True about squat claims. If you’re talking about raw numbers, unless a guy is either (a) extraordinarily huge and thick, or (b) possessed of freaky leverages, his squat max should be AT LEAST 10% less than his deadlift max, and most often a lot more than that.
So unless you’re suited up, if you’re claiming a max squat that’s close to or more than your max deadlift, your squats are probably not even close.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
As far as I’m concerned if you don’t BREAK parallel on your squat and do the eccentric and concentric motions smoothly and under control I do NOT care to hear what your numbers are. They mean nothing.
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As a general rule people who bitch about form use good form because they cant use alot of weight either way.
I trained a friend of mine for a month, at the end of that month he hit 335lb single with 315 for low reps. By the way he is 18, 148lb, and had never even though about picking up a weight.
Training two other friends of mine right now, after their third day deadlifting they each hit 225 and one got 255 on deadlifting day 4.
For almost any able bodied male deadlifting 315 is not inspirational it is quite depressing of a goal. Think big and get bigger.
A lack of confidence detrimental to reaching your goals. And people always say to choose attainable goals, this still applies, just in the opposite way.
When I was having serious back issues a couple of years ago, the thought of deadlifting a full bag of laundry was inspirational.
I think DLing 315 or even less is a perfectly appropriate goal for some people. The problem is that T-Nation.com is not the appropriate place to say that DLing 315 is “inspirational”.
A rough analogy. Suppose you are an aspiring accountant, and there is an interesting website oriented towards mathematics Phd candidates and post-doctoral fellows. Nonetheless, the site has information of interest to you.
What you don’t want to do, on that forum oriented toward mathematics Phd candidates and post-doctoral fellows, is start a thread with a title that says opening one’s own accounting practice is “inspirational”. It probably is legitimately inspirational in some contexts, but on that particular website you should be more deferential to the target audience’s frame of reference.
[quote]Ramo wrote:
True about squat claims. If you’re talking about raw numbers, unless a guy is either (a) extraordinarily huge and thick, or (b) possessed of freaky leverages, his squat max should be AT LEAST 10% less than his deadlift max, and most often a lot more than that.
So unless you’re suited up, if you’re claiming a max squat that’s close to or more than your max deadlift, your squats are probably not even close. [/quote]
I would say this may be true for the average gym-goer, but once you get to certain, higher squatting and pulling numbers, you can throw this rule in the garbage.(Of course, I’m talking about getting into the high 500’s and the 600’s, which, I guess to some people around here, is unheard of.)
If you have some sort of physical handicap or if you are a woman under 150 pounds or you are 13 or younger and have never trained with weights, then 315 is an awesome deadlift number in my opinion.
Otherwise, 315 isn’t a good lift. It’s not worth mentioning, especially on an internet forum dedicated to weight training.
are you kidding me?! 315lbs… 140kg…? I did that the second time I tried the deadlift for christ’s sake. My friend Andreas did 440lbs the second time he deadlifted… 315 is NOT insperational if you’re a healthy and functional male.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
In my very small high school, we had SEVERAL players DL over 315. We even had a few, myself included, who power cleaned over 300. So please, save it.[/quote]
HAHA I agree. I attended a few powerlifting meets in high school with my football team and most there were upwards of 400 and usually over 500.
Btw power clean over 300 in high school is pretty impressive IMO.
