Dickheads at the Gym

[EmilyQ]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]worzel wrote:

Then what’s all this about Ronnie Coleman, US Olypmic Track Team & a fitness model?
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Like I said, you are a little slow. How many times did I tell the other poster that her analogy about getting off a tread mill does NOT fit here? Yet when I finally answer her just to answer to her analogy THAT DOES NOT FIT, you then use that as if I was the one that brought it up?

That makes no sense…just like the rest of the nonsense in this thread.

You can finish arguing with yourself after this one.[/quote]

Wait a minute now, you brought up Ronnie Coleman. I just wanted to know if your standards apply across the board or if they apply essentially only to you and your preferred endeavor.

I agree with Worzel here. Find something like a Metroflex gym. The one I’m familiar with had no a/c. People don’t lounge around there talking on cell phones. Otherwise cope. Bitterness is out of line. [/quote]

I brought up Ronnie Coleman to show THE STRENGTH AND SIZE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US meaning working in with me would likely do nothing but slow him down or hold him back. How is it you still didn’t understand the point being made?

If someone is that much stronger than someone else, working in with them is not always the way to go. That means the guy using the machine needs to go ahead and finish his work out so other people can use the machine.

On top of that, how many times do I need to write that this is something I rarely see before it sinks in?

Why would I change gyms when it is usually very unlikely for someone to sit on a machine for any extended period of time after I make it known that I need to use it?

Why the fuck would someone see Ronnie Coleman getting ready to use the machine they are on and act like they have all day to do what they need to do?

When you are on a piece of equipment, it is NOT yours. This especially applies when the machine is something s easily interchangeable like a fucking CALF RAISE MACHINE like in the OP. For someone to sit there on that machine when someone else needs to use it acting like you just have to finish all of your sets first is retarded.

That scenario would make sense if he was using so much weight that a weaker person would make more sets harder to perform, but not when the guys is WEAKER than the one waiting to use the machine on a CALF RAISE.[/quote]

And I brought up the treadmill to illustrate THE SPEED AND ENDURANCE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US. (LOL…I don’t get the caps. Is that satisfying to you? Do you think I’m cowering? Are YOU cowering when I go all caps? Just wondering.) The point being made (by me) is that you would think what you’re saying is utter bullshit in any other context. Your pretended ignorance that there could ever BE another context is staggering. Your refusal to even consider that there is reasonably a question about the generalization of your point, which is that there should be special treatment for people like you, is…curious.

You might want to note, as I certainly have, that you are all over the page here. You are inconsistent in your argument and can’t seem to maintain a focused point.

I work out at home because I don’t want to be limited to 30 minute runs on treadmills that face televisions broadcasting perpetual inanity. I don’t want to wait for big guys to finish with equipment any more than I want to wait for little guys or cell phone users and I sure as hell don’t want anyone looking at me funny, whether because they want the equipment or they like my ass. I want really loud, really profane music and I don’t want to wear earbuds. That’s the kind of special snowflake I am. So I accommodate my own special needs. Frankly, I expect Ronnie Coleman to do the same. Why is he more special than me or anyone else at the gym?

[goldengloves]

[quote]mcstoots082 wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:
What’s wrong with what Professor X is advocating? Essentially they’re just saying they don’t support people using machines for an absurd amount of time or individuals that aimlessly use equipment. I know that I’ve a schedule and whenever I’ve a chance to go to the gym I can’t spend an hour waiting for someone to finish leg pressing 10 lbs for reps as they work on their laptop, I feel that if they’re not actually going to use something they should allow someone else to. At the gym I do my sets and get off the equipment, I expect the same courtesy in return.[/quote]

Did you read the original post? What you and X theorize happened matters not, only what the original poster said happened matters. But, by all means make the story out to be whatever you need it to be so you can feel as though your point of view is right. [/quote]

I didn’t say I agreed with some guy pouting about someone using a machine, I said there’s nothing wrong with advocating a mutual respect between patrons of a gym. All I’ve seen Professor X advocating on this page can be summarized as “use the machine then move on”, and what’s wrong with that?

[FISCHER613]

[quote]markdp wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

This guy CONTINUED TO SIT THERE AND MOVE ON TO HIS NEXT SET on a fucking calf raise machine AFTER SOMEONE ASKED TO USE THE MACHINE…and you think the guy with the problem is the one asking to use the machine???

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You serious? I do four sets on the seated calf raise machine, taking about a minute between each set. I had my headphones in and couldn’t hear shit.

I saw him staring at the back of my head, turned around and looked at him and he looked away. I was going to tell him I only had a set left had we made eye contact. I then turned and faced forward and I saw him in the mirror walk up to the side of me and his lips were moving.

I turned to him, took out an earplug, and said, “sorry man, couldn’t hear you, these things are earplugs, I’m on my last set.” He then proceeded to roll his eyes in a condescending fashion and set his water bottle next to the machine.

Honestly, I’m all about gym etiquette. The dude was just a dick head. I don’t know if it was because he was a lot bigger than me or what, but after reading some of your posts I think that might the the reason, lol.[/quote]

If someone told me “sorry man, these things are earplugs, I’m on my last set”. I can see how an individual would take it as a sarcastic statement- if it came across sounding aggravated cuz the guy was staring at the back of my head - maybe that is what pissed him off, kinda like when kids put their fingers in their ears going “lalalalalalla can’t hear you”

I work in 2 gyms and see this stuff all the time.

Just saying.

[markdp]

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:

[quote]markdp wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

This guy CONTINUED TO SIT THERE AND MOVE ON TO HIS NEXT SET on a fucking calf raise machine AFTER SOMEONE ASKED TO USE THE MACHINE…and you think the guy with the problem is the one asking to use the machine???

[/quote]

You serious? I do four sets on the seated calf raise machine, taking about a minute between each set. I had my headphones in and couldn’t hear shit.

I saw him staring at the back of my head, turned around and looked at him and he looked away. I was going to tell him I only had a set left had we made eye contact. I then turned and faced forward and I saw him in the mirror walk up to the side of me and his lips were moving.

I turned to him, took out an earplug, and said, “sorry man, couldn’t hear you, these things are earplugs, I’m on my last set.” He then proceeded to roll his eyes in a condescending fashion and set his water bottle next to the machine.

Honestly, I’m all about gym etiquette. The dude was just a dick head. I don’t know if it was because he was a lot bigger than me or what, but after reading some of your posts I think that might the the reason, lol.[/quote]

If someone told me “sorry man, these things are earplugs, I’m on my last set”. I can see how an individual would take it as a sarcastic statement- if it came across sounding aggravated cuz the guy was staring at the back of my head - maybe that is what pissed him off, kinda like when kids put their fingers in their ears going “lalalalalalla can’t hear you”

I work in 2 gyms and see this stuff all the time.

Just saying.[/quote]

hmmm… I didn’t say it sarcastically at all.

Honestly, this whole fucking thread is ridiculous.

I am as accommodating and friendly at the gym as one can be. When I’m not using the DBs, I put them back and stand away from the rack. When I’m in between sets I don’t sit on any benches to rest so as not to make people think I am using them. When someone asks me if they can work in I always say sure. I keep to myself at the gym, which is why I ALWAYS wear headphones.

Honestly, I am at the gym 5 - 6 days a week for one thing and one thing only: to lift. I am not there to make friends, or talk. I’m not saying that I am rude, I just know that if I start talking to people that every time I am in the gym I will feel obligated (whether I should or not) to talk to them, which many times will F with my rest periods, as I like to keep them short, especially on exercises such as calf raises.

This dude was being a prick, that’s all there was to it. I haven’t had any run ins like this in the past two years as I try to be a pretty nice person at the gym. How someone would call me out and say that this wasn’t the case just further proves that they are one huge douchebag.

[iflyboats]

If someone I really respected wanted to use my station, I would give it to him. But I don’t agree at all with those who are saying that your size is your claim to the equipment, and that bigger guys can just go around forcing eveyone else to get lost. Unless the gym actually gives you that privilege, you pay the same membership fees as everyone else and you have to wait like everyone else.

[Risingstar]

When I want to use a specific machine and someone is on it, I watch from a distance for a while and if they don’t get done in a few sets, I will walk up to them and ask them how many sets they have left. For me, that, in no way, is impling that I want to work in with them. I don’t like to work in with anyone. If they only have 1 set left, I will wait around but if they have several sets, I will move on to a different exercise and do that machine later. And just curious, what is proper etiquette for supersetting? Let’s say the machines are not very close together and you’ve already done several sets and all of a sudden on the second portion of the superset, someone moved in on the machine, what should you do? I am qualified for Nationals to get my pro card in figure and would like to build certain muscles a bit more but I tend to be “too nice” to do exercises that would benefit me because I don’t want the confrontation that may come up with things such as supersetting.

[gswork]

[quote]iflyboats wrote:
If someone I really respected wanted to use my station, I would give it to him. But I don’t agree at all with those who are saying that your size is your claim to the equipment, and that bigger guys can just go around forcing eveyone else to get lost. Unless the gym actually gives you that privilege, you pay the same membership fees as everyone else and you have to wait like everyone else. [/quote]

I think this is the center point of the misunderstanding.

If youre working seriously then A) you probably wont be on the machine for a very long time and B) another serious gym member therefore won’t get annoyed with you and C) being like minded you wont see anything wrong with sharing a simple machine, like a calf raise, between sets

If you’re working light, rehab, taking it easy or whatever then in any case you still shouldnt be on the machine for ages and, in the unlikely event that a serious lifter wants to work in for calf raises, it would be reasonable of you to do so.

In either case mean looks, aggression and self righteousness, of any kind, wouldnt be needed just straightforward common sense and decency

[milktruck]

haha if he had posted this and said the guy was a pencil neck high school kid in an affliction t-shirt you all would have taken his side no questions asked.

[BONEZ217]

[quote]milktruck wrote:
haha if he had posted this and said the guy was a pencil neck high school kid in an affliction t-shirt you all would have taken his side no questions asked. [/quote]

Obviously.

This isnt a cookie cutter situation. That’s the whole point. Human beings interpret a situation and react accordingly. Every part of a situation is taken into account when people make decisions about things. Common sense people.

[roybot]

[quote]mcstoots082 wrote:
This thread makes me happy to be a short fat guy at the gym. Now I know it pisses all you big fuckers off when my short fat ass is breathing your air, there is nothing I like more than pissing you fucks off who think you are better then anyone. Some of you guys are living in your own fantasy world, where apparently everyone should give you what you want since you are bigger then them. It is just awesome to actually hear people be so ridiculously full of themselves.

I actually had my friends and family read parts of this, they died lol when they read some of the stupid comments about VIP cards and giving up a machine you are using to some one else because they obviously have a plan to use it.

Thanks for laughs.

Oh and just to make sure there are no misunderstandings I have no problems with big guys. I have a problem with big guys that are so full of themslves they can’t understand how ridiculous they sound. Where I lift we are all pretty good friends, there are some truly big guys but they aren’t total dicks, they are actually very friendly.[/quote]

Fuck. Off.

[grayman19]

what is the problem with that guy? If you are at a public gym, then expect to wait to use a machine. If the guy on it is being a fool talking on his cell phone and taking forever, change up your workout schedule to work around him. I don’t care if I inconvenience the biggest guy at the gym by stealing the power rack for 15-20 mins so I can run through an extended set of meltdown training. He glares and paces, but who really cares? He could do some other part of his workout instead of sitting there, but it is his choice. Go to an elite gym, or buy your own equipment if you want to set your own schedule.

A former Raiders football player is a regular at my gym, and is a true gentleman. Always asks to work in, or finds some filler exercise to do after asking me whether I am done or not, or comes to give a spot without even being asked. Gym etiquette at its finest. He reps out 300 lbs on the bench at 50 years old like the weights are hollow, and always has a good suggestion for my lifts. I wish everybody at my gym could be like him

[roybot]

I won’t mince words, but anybody who’s petty enough to go through the motions of using a piece of gym apparatus just to piss off somebody waiting in line to use it deserves a prolonged death. The biggest guy in the gym doesn’t always have the biggest issues…

[VTBalla34]

[quote]grayman19 wrote:
If the guy on it is being a fool talking on his cell phone and taking forever, change up your workout schedule to work around him.[/quote]

Really??

I don’t care if I inconvenience the biggest guy at the gym by stealing the power rack for 15-20 mins so I can run through an extended set of meltdown training. He glares and paces, but who really cares? He could do some other part of his workout instead of sitting there

I go to the gym to powerlift, not to get pretty. I’m not going to go exhaust myself prior to squatting, deadlifting, or benching. If you are doing something gay in the squat rack (I don’t know what meltdown training is, but I am assuming its gay) and it can be done elsewhere, I am going to ask you to take it elsewhere if you are taking an inordinate amount of time doing it.

[quote]
A former Raiders football player…comes to give a spot without even being asked. Gym etiquette at its finest. [/quote]

I consider this rude…if some pole comes up behind me and starts spotting me without being asked, I am probably going to get pissed.

Your post was retarded

[BONEZ217]

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]grayman19 wrote:
If the guy on it is being a fool talking on his cell phone and taking forever, change up your workout schedule to work around him.[/quote]

Really??

I don’t care if I inconvenience the biggest guy at the gym by stealing the power rack for 15-20 mins so I can run through an extended set of meltdown training. He glares and paces, but who really cares? He could do some other part of his workout instead of sitting there

I go to the gym to powerlift, not to get pretty. I’m not going to go exhaust myself prior to squatting, deadlifting, or benching. If you are doing something gay in the squat rack (I don’t know what meltdown training is, but I am assuming its gay) and it can be done elsewhere, I am going to ask you to take it elsewhere if you are taking an inordinate amount of time doing it.

A former Raiders football player…comes to give a spot without even being asked. Gym etiquette at its finest. [/quote]

I consider this rude…if some pole comes up behind me and starts spotting me without being asked, I am probably going to get pissed.

Your post was retarded

Post more plz

[Professor_X]

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]grayman19 wrote:
If the guy on it is being a fool talking on his cell phone and taking forever, change up your workout schedule to work around him.[/quote]

Really??

I don’t care if I inconvenience the biggest guy at the gym by stealing the power rack for 15-20 mins so I can run through an extended set of meltdown training. He glares and paces, but who really cares? He could do some other part of his workout instead of sitting there

I go to the gym to powerlift, not to get pretty. I’m not going to go exhaust myself prior to squatting, deadlifting, or benching. If you are doing something gay in the squat rack (I don’t know what meltdown training is, but I am assuming its gay) and it can be done elsewhere, I am going to ask you to take it elsewhere if you are taking an inordinate amount of time doing it.

A former Raiders football player…comes to give a spot without even being asked. Gym etiquette at its finest. [/quote]

I consider this rude…if some pole comes up behind me and starts spotting me without being asked, I am probably going to get pissed.

Your post was retarded

Post more plz[/quote]

For realz. This thread just got its sanity back.

[milktruck]

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]milktruck wrote:
haha if he had posted this and said the guy was a pencil neck high school kid in an affliction t-shirt you all would have taken his side no questions asked. [/quote]

Obviously.

This isnt a cookie cutter situation. That’s the whole point. Human beings interpret a situation and react accordingly. Every part of a situation is taken into account when people make decisions about things. Common sense people. [/quote]

If you take the story as he wrote and assume the 60 seconds rest he mentioned, the other guy was being rude. Not sure how his size colors this without assuming some sense of entitlement that was definitely not mentioned in any gym contract Ive ever seen. You want to kick people off a machine buy one or else queue up like every other paying member. If you think being big gives you preference be prepared to be treated like an asshole.

[countingbeans]

[quote]milktruck wrote:
If you think being big gives you preference be prepared to be treated like an asshole.[/quote]

You, like many before you, have completely missed the point trying to be made.

[milktruck]

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]milktruck wrote:
If you think being big gives you preference be prepared to be treated like an asshole.[/quote]

You, like many before you, have completely missed the point trying to be made.

[/quote]

You mean the straw man argument set up so certain people can be right about the big guy being justified in being an ass?

Why not start another thread to talk about something not analagous to the OPs situation?

[countingbeans]

[quote]milktruck wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]milktruck wrote:
If you think being big gives you preference be prepared to be treated like an asshole.[/quote]

You, like many before you, have completely missed the point trying to be made.

[/quote]

You mean the straw man argument set up so certain people can be right about the big guy being justified in being an ass?

Why not start another thread to talk about something not analagous to the OPs situation?[/quote]

lol, wooooosh.

Right over your head.

[milktruck]

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]milktruck wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]milktruck wrote:
If you think being big gives you preference be prepared to be treated like an asshole.[/quote]

You, like many before you, have completely missed the point trying to be made.

[/quote]

You mean the straw man argument set up so certain people can be right about the big guy being justified in being an ass?

Why not start another thread to talk about something not analagous to the OPs situation?[/quote]

lol, wooooosh.

Right over your head.
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oh do you mean PX projecting that the OP is not training hard enough? Lets not split hairs here.

I skimmed the thread and posted. Bonez said it would be different if the guy was smaller, agreeing with my satire of how self important big guys are here, but in earnest. Is he your BFF or something?