[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
X is just throwing a hissyfit because he doesn’t get royal treatment for being the biggest guy at the gym. Poor thing.[/quote]
Royal treatment? I think you are looking for the word “common sense”. I know it may be dead to you but I still give personal lessons on Tuesdays.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
X is just throwing a hissyfit because he doesn’t get royal treatment for being the biggest guy at the gym. Poor thing.[/quote]
Royal treatment? I think you are looking for the word “common sense”. I know it may be dead to you but I still give personal lessons on Tuesdays.[/quote]
Common sense says if the equipment you want to use is already being used, you politely ask how many sets they have left or if you can work in. If waiting isn’t feasible, or working in isn’t, you stfu and wait your turn. No matter how big you are.
Or you can play passive agressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), demand that they move for you, or sit and give them dirty looks. In other words, be a big baby about it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No, it does not make you a random newb.
However, let me put it like this. If I see Ronnie Coleman in the gym and as he walks towards me he says, “Hey buuuday, ain’t nuthin’ but a peanut but I need to work in on that machine”…I am going to either let him work in immediately or get the fuck off the machine.
But then, I actually have some concept of what it takes to even get bigger than average and don’t hold the opinion that everyone is a special snowflake and everyone everywhere deserves the exact same level of respect regardless of achievement.
I would not rush off the equipment for some guy weighing a buck fifty who can barely benchpress the bar.[/quote]
So, if you’re on a treadmill getting a little cardio in and I come up to you while you’re lumbering along…would you get the fuck off so I could get on, what with I’m going to run a goodly distance at a decent pace, which capacity my physique presumably reflects? Or are you going to tell me to fuck off because your little ten minute lumber is no less important to you than my five mile run is to me?[/quote]
How the hell does cardio equipment factor into this? People are on cardio equipment for 30 minutes or more at a time no matter their strength level and no matter their size. There are no plates that need to come on and off between “riders” of a treadmill. In effect, riding a piece of cardio equipment has ZERO effect on the people around you other than simply being a body taking up space for 30min at a time.
We are discussing WEIGHT FUCK LIFTING, where the strength level of the person trying to work in with you factors FUCKING GREATLY into how two people can even work around each other.
Are some of you being obtuse on purpose?
Hell no, I would likely NOT move out of the way for you to work in with me on a movement because you are likely NOT using anywhere near the same weight that I am.
If you are, then work on in.
That is unless YOU ALONE would like to load and unload all of the plates making up the difference between us.
It is amazing that this shit needs the fat crayons.
If we give an arbitrary weight range to describe a certain strength level or size level, apparently everyone in every possible sub division of human life not included will start complaining for being left out.
Some jackass who hardly ever comes to the gym is simply not going to get the exact same treatment as someone who looks like they know what the hell they are doing and have made great progress beyond average. If this offends you, deal with it.
That’s life.[/quote]
No, I’m not being obtuse and nor do I think I’ve been abstruse. It’s very simple; in response to your claim that you would either let Ronnie Coleman work in or “get the fuck off” a piece of equipment due to his obvious superiority in the endeavor in question (lifting, lest we lose track), I am asking if you would “get the fuck off” a piece of equipment geared to an endeavor in which my progress and ability far exceeds your own (now we’ve shifted to running). This is an analogy, X. In it, you are to lifting as I am to running and the calf raise machine is to lifting as the treadmill is to running.
So my question to you is, would you get off the goddamn treadmill so someone more advanced than yourself could use it, or is it only your particular shape of special, special snowflake that matters?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
Now again, if you are having such issues with people at the gyms you frequent, perhaps it’s time to start investing in your own equipment. From what it sounds like, very few, if any, are on your level in the gym. Food for thought.[/quote]
Food for thought? Very rarely do I run into problems at the gym. I just wrote of one of those few times in another thread that happened at a gym I do NOT attend regularly aside from about once a week. Most people tend to stay out of my way. I never get true newbs who have very little basic strength trying to work in with me…and most times if I ask to work in with someone much smaller on a machine that can be easily changed for two people (like calf raises), they often just leave.
Why would you assume I am having problems in this area?
The OP and his headphones could not pay attention to their surroundings…even when those surroundings had a huge pro level physique bodybuilder standing in the way.
Maybe you are blaming the wrong guy.[/quote]
My assumption comes based on your reactions and the words you are typing. My breakdown of the OP’s situation is based solely on what he wrote. Whether the guy is a pro bb’er or not is irrelevant. I don’t know why the OP decided to throw that in there… And as I’ve written previously, the OP is not blameless in this situation at all. I am just saying that the “pro level bb’er” acted like a cock. To bring this full circle, a lot of what you wrote makes you come off as an elitist, and unapproachable. If that is not the case, then I apologize for thinking it is. Perception is reality. Although I, too, am typically one of the biggest and strongest in the gyms I frequent, I’m not closed off. If I have to work in with someone, I work in, and try to help them get better if I see that they are newbs. Very rarely do I get people trying to work in with me, however, when it does happen, I don’t have any issues with it, as we are usually there for the same purpose. To get better.
Now, over here, we have waaaay too many “weekly warriors”. Those that decide each week to re-dedicate themselves to working out, however, all they do is take up space and equipment. I abhor these types of people, because by Wednesday, they bitch out again. My plan for myself is to start working out on my own, in the basement of my barracks, or in a separate tent when I get downrange. That way, I’m not hindered. If someone wishes to work out with me, then so be it, but that is my solution for now. And like I said in the separate thread, the guy you encountered on the bench machine was indeed an asshat.
This is shit I learned in first grade. If someone else is playing with a toy you want then you wait until they are done. It doesn’t matter how much you want to play with it. At the same time, don 't hog the same damn toy all the time, share.
Until gyms have pricing structures by the pound the above always applies.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
Bad analogy, not playing.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
Fuck yeah, it’s wrong of you to do that! You’ve gotta fight to be able to play against me. I’m kind of a big deal. 
I agree that it’s appropriate to set things near machines. Not to rush the current user, but to call “next.”
Maybe you have a point, that setting things near equipment can be a way of “calling next”. But when you go into a gym with the attitude Professor X has, and you set your bag down next to someone using a machine, and glare at them, it becomes an act of agression, a way of saying “Hurry up I want to use this now.”
Yes, the glowering may change perceptions of the stuff-setter’s intent, it’s true.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
Bad analogy, not playing.[/quote]
I don’t see how it is any different, dude.
Someone must act like a doucher at their gym if people would get offened by him letting people know, they are in line.
I don’t see how one accepted practice that is a mirror image of the other, just in differing social situations, is a bad analogy.
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
Fuck yeah, it’s wrong of you to do that! You’ve gotta fight to be able to play against me. I’m kind of a big deal. ;)[/quote]
LOL, I’m so bad at pool… I wouldn’t be worth it. I’m taking my 50 cents and going home.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
Fuck yeah, it’s wrong of you to do that! You’ve gotta fight to be able to play against me. I’m kind of a big deal. ;)[/quote]
LOL, I’m so bad at pool… I wouldn’t be worth it. I’m taking my 50 cents and going home. ;)[/quote]
Where are playing that it’s only 50 cents? I’ve been getting ripped off these last few years? I’ve always been paying a dollar! WTF!!!
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
Bad analogy, not playing.[/quote]
I don’t see how it is any different, dude.
Someone must act like a doucher at their gym if people would get offened by him letting people know, they are in line.
I don’t see how one accepted practice that is a mirror image of the other, just in differing social situations, is a bad analogy.
[/quote]
Ok. Walk into the pool place with the attitude that you should have a right to the table because you’re a pro-level player and the other people there are just knocking the balls around and don’t even know what english is. Give them dirty looks, slam your quarters down on the table, then sit and glare at them till they finish.
Do you see the difference yet?
I put my water bottle down beside a machine too when someone’s using it to claim its mine once they are finished… I don’t see anything wrong with that. And I hope the people on the machine don’t think I’m trying to rush them because of it.
X, please just stop responding in this thread, I can see the veins poppin out of your head. I can see you’re getting frustrated with the Tnation people…would hate see you stop posting.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
Bad analogy, not playing.[/quote]
I don’t see how it is any different, dude.
Someone must act like a doucher at their gym if people would get offened by him letting people know, they are in line.
I don’t see how one accepted practice that is a mirror image of the other, just in differing social situations, is a bad analogy.
[/quote]
Ok. Walk into the pool place with the attitude that you should have a right to the table because you’re a pro-level player and the other people there are just knocking the balls around and don’t even know what english is. Give them dirty looks, slam your quarters down on the table, then sit and glare at them till they finish.
Do you see the difference yet?[/quote]
???
What the living fuck are you going on about? Who is giving people dirty looks? Even in the situation I wrote of in the other thread, I put my bag down and went to do calf raises…which means my back is facing the guy so how was I giving him dirty looks?
So, let me get this straight…since you have no real ammo, you just plan to keep making shit up?
You don’t know shit about me if you think I even need to walk in a door with an attitude.
[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
I put my water bottle down beside a machine too when someone’s using it to claim its mine once they are finished… I don’t see anything wrong with that. And I hope the people on the machine don’t think I’m trying to rush them because of it.
X, please just stop responding in this thread, I can see the veins poppin out of your head. I can see you’re getting frustrated with the Tnation people…would hate see you stop posting. [/quote]
Some of these people are just like that jackass who wouldn’t get off the machine. They hate to see anyone much bigger/stronger than them because they hate that sometimes, size does gain quite a bit of respect in many social situations…so they lash out.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
This is the sole way people let other people know they are using something next in my gym. Do people expect other people to just stand 5 inches away from the person the whole time standing like a linebacker pre-snap ready to tackle anyone that approaches? Just put your shit down and go stand somehwere else so everyone can have their personal space.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Or you can play passive aggressive games like leaving your bag next to the machine they are using (and dishonestly call it “gym code”), [/quote]
This is wrong?
It happens at my gym fairly often actually.
So next thing your saying is I’m wrong for putting my quarters on the pool table to let people know me and my buddy have winner?
[/quote]
Bad analogy, not playing.[/quote]
I don’t see how it is any different, dude.
Someone must act like a doucher at their gym if people would get offened by him letting people know, they are in line.
I don’t see how one accepted practice that is a mirror image of the other, just in differing social situations, is a bad analogy.
[/quote]
Ok. Walk into the pool place with the attitude that you should have a right to the table because you’re a pro-level player and the other people there are just knocking the balls around and don’t even know what english is. Give them dirty looks, slam your quarters down on the table, then sit and glare at them till they finish.
Do you see the difference yet?[/quote]
?
What the living fuck are you going on about? Who is giving people dirty looks? Even in the situation I wrote of in the other thread, I put my bag down and went to do calf raises…which means my back is facing the guy so how was I giving him dirty looks?
So, let me get this straight…since you have no real ammo, you just plan to keep making shit up?
You don’t know shit about me if you think I even need to walk in a door with an attitude. [/quote]
So you come in here with the attitude that you should have free roam of the gym and people who aren’t as big/strong as you are so far below you they should bow down… but you really think that attitude doesn’t shine through when you’re there?
You think people can’t tell how annoyed you are that they would dare be using the machine you want?