I just don’t get the correlation between muscular and being brain-dead.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
But then, I actually have some concept of what it takes to even get bigger than average and don’t hold the opinion that everyone is a special snowflake and everyone everywhere deserves the exact same level of respect regardless of achievement.
I would not rush off the equipment for some guy weighing a buck fifty who can barely benchpress the bar.[/quote]
Ah, I have been away far, far too long! How ya been, Prof?
[quote]Jason van Wyk wrote:
Therefore unless you’re not seeking improved performance in these sports, you’re going to be training hard, lifting good weight and lifting it explosively. You are hardly the 150lb guy going through the motions which is what Professor X was referring to. He might be very heavy but he’s not brain dead. [/quote]
I know what profx was referring too thats why I commented on it in the later part of my earlier post… but thats not what the original guy I responded too was talking about… profx just wanted to assume thats what he meant… he also wanted to assume that I was full of shit… but whatever this thread is all over the place. This response barely makes sense… 
oh and no one was saying hes brain dead… I don’t think anyone implied anywhere in this thread that bigger guys are brain dead?!?
[quote]markdp wrote:
Wow, haven’t been this ticked off at someone at my gym in a while.
So I’m sitting on the seated calf raise machine with about four plates loaded on it facing the way one is supposed to when using the machine. I look in the mirror and this dude is staring at the back of my head, about 4 feet behind me.
Now, this guy is pretty huge. Probably could be a pro BBer. I don’t know why this is relevant but thought I’d throw it in there.
So I turn and look at his face and he looks away. I continue to sit there waiting for my next set. The next thing I know he is at the side of me, talking (I wear the kind of headphones that are like earplugs and can’t hear shit with them in). I take one out and he says, “Hey, you using that.”
WTF DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKSTICK. NO, I’M JUST SITTING ON THIS THING, WITH BEADS OF SWEAT ON MY FACE AND PLATES ON THE MACHINE FOR NOTHING.
I say, “Ya, it’s my last set.”
He rolls his eyes, sighs, and puts down his water bottle about a three feet from me and proceeds to wait.
I don’t know why the shit pissed me off so much. Probably because when someone is on a machine, I sit back a ways and don’t stare at them like I am trying to rush them.
What do you guys think? Do you stand and stare at the person when you are waiting to use the machine they are on? Because if you do, you should kill yourself. thx.[/quote]
The guy in your situation came across like a fucking dickhead. He didn’t even have the ‘maturity’ to come over and ASK you how long you were going to be’ or even ASK to work in with you but instead chose to ‘eye rape’ you from behind like some sort of maniac! He is a dick and deserves no respect even if he has ‘weally big musculs’
A man monster at my gym did this sort of thing but then he took it a step further and was telling smaller guys to get out of his way! The gym committee (we are weight lifting club not a commercial gym) pulled him up for this and threatened to kick him out! He never did it again!
BTW this guy was Ireland’s strongest man so no special treatment! It sent a strong message out to any wannabe dickheads that this shit isnt tolerated!
Its the same with fuckers skipping ques, assholes being rude to table staff, basically people with a superiority complex. These people should be treated with the same disdain they treat others, pure and simple.
Fools hogging equipment in public gyms is another issue’ but as in life shit happens!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No, it does not make you a random newb.
However, let me put it like this. If I see Ronnie Coleman in the gym and as he walks towards me he says, “Hey buuuday, ain’t nuthin’ but a peanut but I need to work in on that machine”…I am going to either let him work in immediately or get the fuck off the machine.
But then, I actually have some concept of what it takes to even get bigger than average and don’t hold the opinion that everyone is a special snowflake and everyone everywhere deserves the exact same level of respect regardless of achievement.
I would not rush off the equipment for some guy weighing a buck fifty who can barely benchpress the bar.[/quote]
So, if you’re on a treadmill getting a little cardio in and I come up to you while you’re lumbering along…would you get the fuck off so I could get on, what with I’m going to run a goodly distance at a decent pace, which capacity my physique presumably reflects? Or are you going to tell me to fuck off because your little ten minute lumber is no less important to you than my five mile run is to me?
[quote]Amiright wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Amiright wrote:
I work out to improve my performance in the sports I participate in…[/quote]
What sports would those be and on what level?[/quote]
Lacrosse-college(position-attack) and club wrestling(local club)… O.o didn’t think that was important. We have our own conditioning etc… 5-7am and our own gym(lacrosse)… but during off-season and even sometimes in season I go to the colleges public gym and a 24 hour fitness when I head back to Texas to visit family.
edit: position [/quote]
I’m kind of in the same boat when it comes to weight and sports. I’ll never break 200lbs or performance will go down the shitter. I lift for sport and injury prevent, but i am starting to enjoy lifting for aesthetics.
On the other hand most the real gains Ive made have come from following the advice of people 250+lbs. A scrawy fucker like me with a cracked out metablism isnt going to make any gains eating 2k calories a day. Once I started to eat 6-8k a day, things started happening.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I just don’t get the correlation between muscular and being brain-dead. [/quote]
There is none. Its just a feeble attempt by weak people to marginalize other people who make them feel weak,pathetic, and out of shape.
Its very reflective of our society as a whole.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No, it does not make you a random newb.
However, let me put it like this. If I see Ronnie Coleman in the gym and as he walks towards me he says, “Hey buuuday, ain’t nuthin’ but a peanut but I need to work in on that machine”…I am going to either let him work in immediately or get the fuck off the machine.
But then, I actually have some concept of what it takes to even get bigger than average and don’t hold the opinion that everyone is a special snowflake and everyone everywhere deserves the exact same level of respect regardless of achievement.
I would not rush off the equipment for some guy weighing a buck fifty who can barely benchpress the bar.[/quote]
So, if you’re on a treadmill getting a little cardio in and I come up to you while you’re lumbering along…would you get the fuck off so I could get on, what with I’m going to run a goodly distance at a decent pace, which capacity my physique presumably reflects? Or are you going to tell me to fuck off because your little ten minute lumber is no less important to you than my five mile run is to me?[/quote]
How the hell does cardio equipment factor into this? People are on cardio equipment for 30 minutes or more at a time no matter their strength level and no matter their size. There are no plates that need to come on and off between “riders” of a treadmill. In effect, riding a piece of cardio equipment has ZERO effect on the people around you other than simply being a body taking up space for 30min at a time.
We are discussing WEIGHT FUCK LIFTING, where the strength level of the person trying to work in with you factors FUCKING GREATLY into how two people can even work around each other.
Are some of you being obtuse on purpose?
Hell no, I would likely NOT move out of the way for you to work in with me on a movement because you are likely NOT using anywhere near the same weight that I am.
If you are, then work on in.
That is unless YOU ALONE would like to load and unload all of the plates making up the difference between us.
It is amazing that this shit needs the fat crayons.
If we give an arbitrary weight range to describe a certain strength level or size level, apparently everyone in every possible sub division of human life not included will start complaining for being left out.
Some jackass who hardly ever comes to the gym is simply not going to get the exact same treatment as someone who looks like they know what the hell they are doing and have made great progress beyond average. If this offends you, deal with it.
That’s life.
[quote]worzel wrote:
[quote]markdp wrote:
Wow, haven’t been this ticked off at someone at my gym in a while.
So I’m sitting on the seated calf raise machine with about four plates loaded on it facing the way one is supposed to when using the machine. I look in the mirror and this dude is staring at the back of my head, about 4 feet behind me.
Now, this guy is pretty huge. Probably could be a pro BBer. I don’t know why this is relevant but thought I’d throw it in there.
So I turn and look at his face and he looks away. I continue to sit there waiting for my next set. The next thing I know he is at the side of me, talking (I wear the kind of headphones that are like earplugs and can’t hear shit with them in). I take one out and he says, “Hey, you using that.”
WTF DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKSTICK. NO, I’M JUST SITTING ON THIS THING, WITH BEADS OF SWEAT ON MY FACE AND PLATES ON THE MACHINE FOR NOTHING.
I say, “Ya, it’s my last set.”
He rolls his eyes, sighs, and puts down his water bottle about a three feet from me and proceeds to wait.
I don’t know why the shit pissed me off so much. Probably because when someone is on a machine, I sit back a ways and don’t stare at them like I am trying to rush them.
What do you guys think? Do you stand and stare at the person when you are waiting to use the machine they are on? Because if you do, you should kill yourself. thx.[/quote]
The guy in your situation came across like a fucking dickhead. He didn’t even have the ‘maturity’ to come over and ASK you how long you were going to be’ or even ASK to work in with you but instead chose to ‘eye rape’ you from behind like some sort of maniac! He is a dick and deserves no respect even if he has ‘weally big musculs’
A man monster at my gym did this sort of thing but then he took it a step further and was telling smaller guys to get out of his way! The gym committee (we are weight lifting club not a commercial gym) pulled him up for this and threatened to kick him out! He never did it again!
BTW this guy was Ireland’s strongest man so no special treatment! It sent a strong message out to any wannabe dickheads that this shit isnt tolerated!
Its the same with fuckers skipping ques, assholes being rude to table staff, basically people with a superiority complex. These people should be treated with the same disdain they treat others, pure and simple.
Fools hogging equipment in public gyms is another issue’ but as in life shit happens!
[/quote]
First, the jackass you are now defending was wearing HEADPHONES that he himself claimed he could not hear anyone around because of…so how do you know the guy DIDN’T ask how long this guy was going to be? if this guy couldn’t hear him, you sure are jumping to conclusions.
Nothing this guy wrote makes the guy trying to use the piece of equipment out to be the asshole here.
The OP was simply sitting on a piece of equipment RESTING while IGNORING EVERYONE AROUND HIM when the proper action would have been to apologize if he couldn’t hear the guy and allow him to work in.
It’s a fucking calf raise machine. Why would he sit there until ALL of his sets are finished and allow no one else to work in?
How are you all seeing this from the perspective that you are other than this eluding to some sort of small man syndrome?
Why are you so pissed at “man monsters”?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No, it does not make you a random newb.
However, let me put it like this. If I see Ronnie Coleman in the gym and as he walks towards me he says, “Hey buuuday, ain’t nuthin’ but a peanut but I need to work in on that machine”…I am going to either let him work in immediately or get the fuck off the machine.
But then, I actually have some concept of what it takes to even get bigger than average and don’t hold the opinion that everyone is a special snowflake and everyone everywhere deserves the exact same level of respect regardless of achievement.
I would not rush off the equipment for some guy weighing a buck fifty who can barely benchpress the bar.[/quote]
So, if you’re on a treadmill getting a little cardio in and I come up to you while you’re lumbering along…would you get the fuck off so I could get on, what with I’m going to run a goodly distance at a decent pace, which capacity my physique presumably reflects? Or are you going to tell me to fuck off because your little ten minute lumber is no less important to you than my five mile run is to me?[/quote]
How the hell does cardio equipment factor into this? People are on cardio equipment for 30 minutes or more at a time no matter their strength level and no matter their size. There are no plates that need to come on and off between “riders” of a treadmill. In effect, riding a piece of cardio equipment has ZERO effect on the people around you other than simply being a body taking up space for 30min at a time.
We are discussing WEIGHT FUCK LIFTING, where the strength level of the person trying to work in with you factors FUCKING GREATLY into how two people can even work around each other.
Are some of you being obtuse on purpose?
Hell no, I would likely NOT move out of the way for you to work in with me on a movement because you are likely NOT using anywhere near the same weight that I am.
If you are, then work on in.
That is unless YOU ALONE would like to load and unload all of the plates making up the difference between us.
It is amazing that this shit needs the fat crayons.
If we give an arbitrary weight range to describe a certain strength level or size level, apparently everyone in every possible sub division of human life not included will start complaining for being left out.
Some jackass who hardly ever comes to the gym is simply not going to get the exact same treatment as someone who looks like they know what the hell they are doing and have made great progress beyond average. If this offends you, deal with it.
That’s life.[/quote]
Life is also the experiences at the gym about which you and others are so irate. Since they continue to happen, I would suggest that this is also life and, sadly, not everyone is on board with how you collectively regard yourselves.
Snow flakes. Every one of them.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Life is also the experiences at the gym about which you and others are so irate. Since they continue to happen, I would suggest that this is also life and, sadly, not everyone is on board with how you collectively regard yourselves.
Snow flakes. Every one of them.
[/quote]
That is why the gym has RULES or a system of etiquette that, while possibly unspoken, is not alien to anyone who has been in a gym for longer than a few months at a time.
That is why it is WRONG to stand two inches in front of someone and right in front of the mirror…regardless of if the jackass doing it is “on board” as you put it.
That is why little dudes just going through the motions for over 20 minutes on a bench press can be told to get the fuck off…whether they are “on board” or not.
You are now defending the people who can’t adhere to codes of conduct?
Are you sure you want to take that stance?
If someone is 120lbs and can’t bench the bar yet they are trying to work in with someone who is 270+lbs and can bench press over 500lbs…maybe, just fucking maybe they need to wait and maybe some of you shouldn’t act like you can’t see what the problem is.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]worzel wrote:
[quote]markdp wrote:
Wow, haven’t been this ticked off at someone at my gym in a while.
So I’m sitting on the seated calf raise machine with about four plates loaded on it facing the way one is supposed to when using the machine. I look in the mirror and this dude is staring at the back of my head, about 4 feet behind me.
Now, this guy is pretty huge. Probably could be a pro BBer. I don’t know why this is relevant but thought I’d throw it in there.
So I turn and look at his face and he looks away. I continue to sit there waiting for my next set. The next thing I know he is at the side of me, talking (I wear the kind of headphones that are like earplugs and can’t hear shit with them in). I take one out and he says, “Hey, you using that.”
WTF DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKSTICK. NO, I’M JUST SITTING ON THIS THING, WITH BEADS OF SWEAT ON MY FACE AND PLATES ON THE MACHINE FOR NOTHING.
I say, “Ya, it’s my last set.”
He rolls his eyes, sighs, and puts down his water bottle about a three feet from me and proceeds to wait.
I don’t know why the shit pissed me off so much. Probably because when someone is on a machine, I sit back a ways and don’t stare at them like I am trying to rush them.
What do you guys think? Do you stand and stare at the person when you are waiting to use the machine they are on? Because if you do, you should kill yourself. thx.[/quote]
The guy in your situation came across like a fucking dickhead. He didn’t even have the ‘maturity’ to come over and ASK you how long you were going to be’ or even ASK to work in with you but instead chose to ‘eye rape’ you from behind like some sort of maniac! He is a dick and deserves no respect even if he has ‘weally big musculs’
A man monster at my gym did this sort of thing but then he took it a step further and was telling smaller guys to get out of his way! The gym committee (we are weight lifting club not a commercial gym) pulled him up for this and threatened to kick him out! He never did it again!
BTW this guy was Ireland’s strongest man so no special treatment! It sent a strong message out to any wannabe dickheads that this shit isnt tolerated!
Its the same with fuckers skipping ques, assholes being rude to table staff, basically people with a superiority complex. These people should be treated with the same disdain they treat others, pure and simple.
Fools hogging equipment in public gyms is another issue’ but as in life shit happens!
[/quote]
First, the jackass you are now defending was wearing HEADPHONES that he himself claimed he could not hear anyone around because of…so how do you know the guy DIDN’T ask how long this guy was going to be? if this guy couldn’t hear him, you sure are jumping to conclusions.
Nothing this guy wrote makes the guy trying to use the piece of equipment out to be the asshole here.
The OP was simply sitting on a piece of equipment RESTING while IGNORING EVERYONE AROUND HIM when the proper action would have been to apologize if he couldn’t hear the guy and allow him to work in.
It’s a fucking calf raise machine. Why would he sit there until ALL of his sets are finished and allow no one else to work in?
How are you all seeing this from the perspective that you are other than this eluding to some sort of small man syndrome?
Why are you so pissed at “man monsters”?[/quote]
You don’t wear headphones to the gym? I know I do. And it’s not my fault if I don’t hear someone speaking to me, and they don’t get my attention. Common sense would say that if the dude wanted to work in on the calf raise machine, he should’ve at least tapped him on the shoulder, or done something else to get the resting person’s attention. Instead, he CHOSE to just stand there and eye-fuck the dude. Yes, the OP shouldn’t have been taking that long of a rest on that particular piece of equipment, but the eye-fucker is a dick for his behavior as well. Size is irrelevant.
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
You don’t wear headphones to the gym? [/quote]
Oh, I do wear headphones to the gym, but I am also usually one of the biggest guys there so your experiences are NOTHING like mine. No one is usually trying to rush me off of equipment and the reason I often wear headphones is so people don’t keep coming up and talking to me when I am trying to focus.
YOU on the other hand are not going to experience the same and depending on how you look and the weight being used, people are going to judge you within the hierarchy of the gym where, much to your dismay, size and strength DO matter.
[quote]
And it’s not my fault if I don’t hear someone speaking to me, and they don’t get my attention. Common sense would say that if the dude wanted to work in on the calf raise machine, he should’ve at least tapped him on the shoulder, or done something else to get the resting person’s attention. Instead, he CHOSE to just stand there and eye-fuck the dude. Yes, the OP shouldn’t have been taking that long of a rest on that particular piece of equipment, but the eye-fucker is a dick for his behavior as well. Size is irrelevant. [/quote]
??
This guy CONTINUED TO SIT THERE AND MOVE ON TO HIS NEXT SET on a fucking calf raise machine AFTER SOMEONE ASKED TO USE THE MACHINE…and you think the guy with the problem is the one asking to use the machine???
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
You don’t wear headphones to the gym? [/quote]
Oh, I do wear headphones to the gym, but I am also usually one of the biggest guys there so your experiences are NOTHING like mine. No one is usually trying to rush me off of equipment and the reason I often wear headphones is so people don’t keep coming up and talking to me when I am trying to focus.
YOU on the other hand are not going to experience the same and depending on how you look and the weight being used, people are going to judge you within the hierarchy of the gym where, much to your dismay, size and strength DO matter.
While you are a lil bigger than I am, I would never be considered “small”. I am usually one of the stronger people in the gyms I go to, and like you, I normally where headphones so that I’m not interrupted as often. Typically, I am not interrupted when I am working out, as people recognize me in the gyms I frequent, and they know the work I put in. But…I don’t wear my elitist badge. If some twit is wasting time on a piece of equipment I want to use, I’ll get their attention, then ask how many sets they have left. If they have more than two sets left, I ask to work in, regardless of what they have on the bar. If I have to load/unload the bar until they are done, then so be it. The person the OP reference DID NOT ASK to work in. He decided to stand just three feet away and stare like a cocksmith. Regardless of what piece of equipment is being used, there are ways of getting shit done. Now, as I said before, the OP was wrong for taking the amount of time we assume he was taking, and for not buying a clue that maybe he should let the guy work in, however, to simply become a cock for not liking the answer to your question tells me you have your own set of issues to work out.
Now again, if you are having such issues with people at the gyms you frequent, perhaps it’s time to start investing in your own equipment. From what it sounds like, very few, if any, are on your level in the gym. Food for thought.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Life is also the experiences at the gym about which you and others are so irate. Since they continue to happen, I would suggest that this is also life and, sadly, not everyone is on board with how you collectively regard yourselves.
Snow flakes. Every one of them.
[/quote]
That is why the gym has RULES or a system of etiquette that, while possibly unspoken, is not alien to anyone who has been in a gym for longer than a few months at a time.
That is why it is WRONG to stand two inches in front of someone and right in front of the mirror…regardless of if the jackass doing it is “on board” as you put it.
That is why little dudes just going through the motions for over 20 minutes on a bench press can be told to get the fuck off…whether they are “on board” or not.
You are now defending the people who can’t adhere to codes of conduct?
Are you sure you want to take that stance?
If someone is 120lbs and can’t bench the bar yet they are trying to work in with someone who is 270+lbs and can bench press over 500lbs…maybe, just fucking maybe they need to wait and maybe some of you shouldn’t act like you can’t see what the problem is.[/quote]
I don’t think it’s that people can’t see what the issue is. We’ve all had irritations at the gym. I think it’s the unrelenting, humourless levels of self-importance that are reaching critical mass.
training at competitive PL clubs with one rack and lifters that vary in experience from those training for their first meets to those who’ve competed at Worlds and seen them all work in together loading and unloading the bar for each other I can’t get my panties in such a big bunch. It is seen as pretty normal and we’ve all done it for ourselves and each other. I realise that this is in a club or team environment but if you are accustomed to it, the ability to be flexible extends beyond that realm.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]worzel wrote:
[quote]markdp wrote:
Wow, haven’t been this ticked off at someone at my gym in a while.
So I’m sitting on the seated calf raise machine with about four plates loaded on it facing the way one is supposed to when using the machine. I look in the mirror and this dude is staring at the back of my head, about 4 feet behind me.
Now, this guy is pretty huge. Probably could be a pro BBer. I don’t know why this is relevant but thought I’d throw it in there.
So I turn and look at his face and he looks away. I continue to sit there waiting for my next set. The next thing I know he is at the side of me, talking (I wear the kind of headphones that are like earplugs and can’t hear shit with them in). I take one out and he says, “Hey, you using that.”
WTF DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKSTICK. NO, I’M JUST SITTING ON THIS THING, WITH BEADS OF SWEAT ON MY FACE AND PLATES ON THE MACHINE FOR NOTHING.
I say, “Ya, it’s my last set.”
He rolls his eyes, sighs, and puts down his water bottle about a three feet from me and proceeds to wait.
I don’t know why the shit pissed me off so much. Probably because when someone is on a machine, I sit back a ways and don’t stare at them like I am trying to rush them.
What do you guys think? Do you stand and stare at the person when you are waiting to use the machine they are on? Because if you do, you should kill yourself. thx.[/quote]
The guy in your situation came across like a fucking dickhead. He didn’t even have the ‘maturity’ to come over and ASK you how long you were going to be’ or even ASK to work in with you but instead chose to ‘eye rape’ you from behind like some sort of maniac! He is a dick and deserves no respect even if he has ‘weally big musculs’
A man monster at my gym did this sort of thing but then he took it a step further and was telling smaller guys to get out of his way! The gym committee (we are weight lifting club not a commercial gym) pulled him up for this and threatened to kick him out! He never did it again!
BTW this guy was Ireland’s strongest man so no special treatment! It sent a strong message out to any wannabe dickheads that this shit isnt tolerated!
Its the same with fuckers skipping ques, assholes being rude to table staff, basically people with a superiority complex. These people should be treated with the same disdain they treat others, pure and simple.
Fools hogging equipment in public gyms is another issue’ but as in life shit happens!
[/quote]
First, the jackass you are now defending was wearing HEADPHONES that he himself claimed he could not hear anyone around because of…so how do you know the guy DIDN’T ask how long this guy was going to be? if this guy couldn’t hear him, you sure are jumping to conclusions.
Nothing this guy wrote makes the guy trying to use the piece of equipment out to be the asshole here.
The OP was simply sitting on a piece of equipment RESTING while IGNORING EVERYONE AROUND HIM when the proper action would have been to apologize if he couldn’t hear the guy and allow him to work in.
It’s a fucking calf raise machine. Why would he sit there until ALL of his sets are finished and allow no one else to work in?
How are you all seeing this from the perspective that you are other than this eluding to some sort of small man syndrome?
Why are you so pissed at “man monsters”?[/quote]
I’m not pissed at ‘man monsters’ lol, in fact this particular ‘man monster’ is a good friend of mine but it doesnt change the fact that he was being a dick to people he thought would take it.
The OP was eyeballed from behind! The OP then expalined he looked to see what this fella was looking at but the guy turned away? (oportunity to engage in a mature conversation LOST!)
So the OP continued on until he saw this guy talking to him and then proceeded to take his earphones out’ to see what was up?
At this instance the big fella should have then realised ‘oh wait a minute, this guy didnt actually hear me (if indeed he was actually trying to talk to him) so I think it would be appropriate to loose the attitude and approach this in a normal non-confrontational way’ but he didnt! He was obviously pissed and in response so to was the OP.
Resting for under ‘60 SECONDS’ as stated by the OP does not mean sitting around on his arse antagonising other gym users. In fact suggesting he was hogging the machine is a bit excessive!
Ignoring everyone around him? Jesus dont make me laugh, he was training for fuck sake! Why should he bother with other gym users unless they approach him in acivilised manner?
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
You don’t wear headphones to the gym? [/quote]
Oh, I do wear headphones to the gym, but I am also usually one of the biggest guys there so your experiences are NOTHING like mine. No one is usually trying to rush me off of equipment and the reason I often wear headphones is so people don’t keep coming up and talking to me when I am trying to focus.
YOU on the other hand are not going to experience the same and depending on how you look and the weight being used, people are going to judge you within the hierarchy of the gym where, much to your dismay, size and strength DO matter.
While you are a lil bigger than I am, I would never be considered “small”. I am usually one of the stronger people in the gyms I go to, and like you, I normally where headphones so that I’m not interrupted as often. Typically, I am not interrupted when I am working out, as people recognize me in the gyms I frequent, and they know the work I put in. But…I don’t wear my elitist badge. If some twit is wasting time on a piece of equipment I want to use, I’ll get their attention, then ask how many sets they have left. If they have more than two sets left, I ask to work in, regardless of what they have on the bar. If I have to load/unload the bar until they are done, then so be it. The person the OP reference DID NOT ASK to work in. He decided to stand just three feet away and stare like a cocksmith. Regardless of what piece of equipment is being used, there are ways of getting shit done. Now, as I said before, the OP was wrong for taking the amount of time we assume he was taking, and for not buying a clue that maybe he should let the guy work in, however, to simply become a cock for not liking the answer to your question tells me you have your own set of issues to work out.
Now again, if you are having such issues with people at the gyms you frequent, perhaps it’s time to start investing in your own equipment. From what it sounds like, very few, if any, are on your level in the gym. Food for thought.[/quote]
This.
X is just throwing a hissyfit because he doesn’t get royal treatment for being the biggest guy at the gym. Poor thing.
[quote]worzel wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]worzel wrote:
[quote]markdp wrote:
Wow, haven’t been this ticked off at someone at my gym in a while.
So I’m sitting on the seated calf raise machine with about four plates loaded on it facing the way one is supposed to when using the machine. I look in the mirror and this dude is staring at the back of my head, about 4 feet behind me.
Now, this guy is pretty huge. Probably could be a pro BBer. I don’t know why this is relevant but thought I’d throw it in there.
So I turn and look at his face and he looks away. I continue to sit there waiting for my next set. The next thing I know he is at the side of me, talking (I wear the kind of headphones that are like earplugs and can’t hear shit with them in). I take one out and he says, “Hey, you using that.”
WTF DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKSTICK. NO, I’M JUST SITTING ON THIS THING, WITH BEADS OF SWEAT ON MY FACE AND PLATES ON THE MACHINE FOR NOTHING.
I say, “Ya, it’s my last set.”
He rolls his eyes, sighs, and puts down his water bottle about a three feet from me and proceeds to wait.
I don’t know why the shit pissed me off so much. Probably because when someone is on a machine, I sit back a ways and don’t stare at them like I am trying to rush them.
What do you guys think? Do you stand and stare at the person when you are waiting to use the machine they are on? Because if you do, you should kill yourself. thx.[/quote]
The guy in your situation came across like a fucking dickhead. He didn’t even have the ‘maturity’ to come over and ASK you how long you were going to be’ or even ASK to work in with you but instead chose to ‘eye rape’ you from behind like some sort of maniac! He is a dick and deserves no respect even if he has ‘weally big musculs’
A man monster at my gym did this sort of thing but then he took it a step further and was telling smaller guys to get out of his way! The gym committee (we are weight lifting club not a commercial gym) pulled him up for this and threatened to kick him out! He never did it again!
BTW this guy was Ireland’s strongest man so no special treatment! It sent a strong message out to any wannabe dickheads that this shit isnt tolerated!
Its the same with fuckers skipping ques, assholes being rude to table staff, basically people with a superiority complex. These people should be treated with the same disdain they treat others, pure and simple.
Fools hogging equipment in public gyms is another issue’ but as in life shit happens!
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First, the jackass you are now defending was wearing HEADPHONES that he himself claimed he could not hear anyone around because of…so how do you know the guy DIDN’T ask how long this guy was going to be? if this guy couldn’t hear him, you sure are jumping to conclusions.
Nothing this guy wrote makes the guy trying to use the piece of equipment out to be the asshole here.
The OP was simply sitting on a piece of equipment RESTING while IGNORING EVERYONE AROUND HIM when the proper action would have been to apologize if he couldn’t hear the guy and allow him to work in.
It’s a fucking calf raise machine. Why would he sit there until ALL of his sets are finished and allow no one else to work in?
How are you all seeing this from the perspective that you are other than this eluding to some sort of small man syndrome?
Why are you so pissed at “man monsters”?[/quote]
I’m not pissed at ‘man monsters’ lol, in fact this particular ‘man monster’ is a good friend of mine but it doesnt change the fact that he was being a dick to people he thought would take it.
The OP was eyeballed from behind! The OP then expalined he looked to see what this fella was looking at but the guy turned away? (oportunity to engage in a mature conversation LOST!)
So the OP continued on until he saw this guy talking to him and then proceeded to take his earphones out’ to see what was up?
At this instance the big fella should have then realised ‘oh wait a minute, this guy didnt actually hear me (if indeed he was actually trying to talk to him) so I think it would be appropriate to loose the attitude and approach this in a normal non-confrontational way’ but he didnt! He was obviously pissed and in response so to was the OP.
Resting for under ‘60 SECONDS’ as stated by the OP does not mean sitting around on his arse antagonising other gym users. In fact suggesting he was hogging the machine is a bit excessive!
Ignoring everyone around him? Jesus dont make me laugh, he was training for fuck sake! Why should he bother with other gym users unless they approach him in acivilised manner?[/quote]
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While during a set I am usually in a zone, in between sets, there is no way I won’t see someone waiting for the same piece of equipment. I may be focused, but blind to my environment is not what I fall into…ESPECIALLY if they look like a fucking pro bodybuilder like the OP stated.
Maybe the OP needs glasses.
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
Now again, if you are having such issues with people at the gyms you frequent, perhaps it’s time to start investing in your own equipment. From what it sounds like, very few, if any, are on your level in the gym. Food for thought.[/quote]
Food for thought? Very rarely do I run into problems at the gym. I just wrote of one of those few times in another thread that happened at a gym I do NOT attend regularly aside from about once a week. Most people tend to stay out of my way. I never get true newbs who have very little basic strength trying to work in with me…and most times if I ask to work in with someone much smaller on a machine that can be easily changed for two people (like calf raises), they often just leave.
Why would you assume I am having problems in this area?
The OP and his headphones could not pay attention to their surroundings…even when those surroundings had a huge pro level physique bodybuilder standing in the way.
Maybe you are blaming the wrong guy.