Delts Really Lagging

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

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Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
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…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

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well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

This is an asinine statement, seeing as it’s Defranco’s template and he trains professional athletes.

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

This is an asinine statement, seeing as it’s Defranco’s template and he trains professional athletes.[/quote]

You’d think before something argues that they realize where the context of this program stems from.

Oh wellz

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise.

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

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lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

[/quote]
lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fat, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese[/quote]

Psh bro learn to be vertical before you concern yourself with body comp

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese[/quote]

Psh bro learn to be vertical before you concern yourself with body comp[/quote]

I guess being a fattie powerlifter makes all my pressin’ horizontal

:confused:

Actually, it’s on my computer vertical, I don’t know why it uploaded that way.

Weird.

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese[/quote]

Psh bro learn to be vertical before you concern yourself with body comp[/quote]

I guess being a fattie powerlifter makes all my pressin’ horizontal

:confused:

Actually, it’s on my computer vertical, I don’t know why it uploaded that way.

Weird.[/quote]

Mods, all up in yo shit.

Actually that’s just plain strange if it was good on your comp. GD interwebz.

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

[/quote]
lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fact, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)
[/quote]

how you like them fackin’ apples? bro

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

[/quote]
lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fact, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)
[/quote]
I am fat. I have no problem getting fat to get bigger and stronger.

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

[/quote]
lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fact, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)
[/quote]
I am fat. I have no problem getting fat to get bigger and stronger. [/quote]

No wonder why you were backing up PX

You’re doing it wrong if you have that mentality.

I’ve gone from 125lbs to 215lbs in 4 years, not getting much fatter than the picture above.

What’s your excuse?

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

[/quote]
lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fact, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)
[/quote]
I am fat. I have no problem getting fat to get bigger and stronger. [/quote]

No wonder why you were backing up PX

You’re doing it wrong if you have that mentality.

I’ve gone from 125lbs to 215lbs in 4 years, not getting much fatter than the picture above.

What’s your excuse?[/quote]

food is delicious

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

[/quote]
lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fact, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)
[/quote]
I am fat. I have no problem getting fat to get bigger and stronger. [/quote]

Lol. I’d rather eat like 10 mcdoubles and a pizza the night before a heavy day to put on 10lbs of water and improve my leverage for a day rather than putting on a ton of BF to achieve the same result.

I am not a professional athlete tho.

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

[/quote]
lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fact, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)
[/quote]
I am fat. I have no problem getting fat to get bigger and stronger. [/quote]

No wonder why you were backing up PX

You’re doing it wrong if you have that mentality.

I’ve gone from 125lbs to 215lbs in 4 years, not getting much fatter than the picture above.

What’s your excuse?[/quote]

food is delicious
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You’re a sad fat little man.

Anyway, this thread died, which sucks

I wanted to argue with PX and he’s not here, and I have to contend with some random fat guy

I want my money back

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

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Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
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…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

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well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
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Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

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lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fact, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)
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I am fat. I have no problem getting fat to get bigger and stronger. [/quote]

Lol. I’d rather eat like 10 mcdoubles and a pizza the night before a heavy day to put on 10lbs of water and improve my leverage for a day rather than putting on a ton of BF to achieve the same result.

I am not a professional athlete tho.[/quote]

me either. im a semi-professional competitive eater

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
People keep arguing the merits of exercise selection. The reason an athlete would lift is to become stronger in the general sense. Therefore military press or any vertical pressing would be valuable. No exercise in the gym is technically functional on the football field. There is never a point in football where you have 315 on you back and you move up and down.

[/quote]

Have you not heard of the Bench Press for reps test? Which is why DeFranco even has two Bench Press days in his template in the first place.

Surely you can’t be srs[/quote]

yes i have. All it really means is how big of a contract your going to get. Not how good of a football player you are. Ask someone involved with scouting and the combine. Its not an accurate test of football skill nor strength on the field. It is a flawed means of comparison amongst the players. The 9 top performers in the past 9 years at the bench press test are all linemen. According to the bench press test brian urlacher and arian foster and rob gronkowski are marginal football players.
[/quote]

…Hence why it’s there…

Anyway, ignoring your stupid disease. It’s a template, and if the OP wants to work on his delts and stay with the template, I’d swap out the Bench for reps, and that’s where I’d OH Press in its stead.

[/quote]

well you stick to your template. Let me know when you become a professional athlete…[/quote]

Thanks bro! Will do!

Let me know when you’re not fat!

Err…I mean…

Awesome avatar picture. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin’ huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
[/quote]

Likewise. [/quote]

Yeah bro, I’m fackin’ morbidly obese

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lol i wasnt saying you were fat. Likewise for the motivation.[/quote]

Wait… you’re not saying that you didn’t pick up on the fact that I was making fun of you? (I actually do think you’re fact, and was laying the sarcasm pretty thick)
[/quote]
I am fat. I have no problem getting fat to get bigger and stronger. [/quote]

Lol. I’d rather eat like 10 mcdoubles and a pizza the night before a heavy day to put on 10lbs of water and improve my leverage for a day rather than putting on a ton of BF to achieve the same result.

I am not a professional athlete tho.[/quote]

I lay off the fast food, but I can’t remember the amount of times I’ve done 2 large pizzas the night before or a few hours before training for the bloat.

Good fackin’ timez dood

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Is there no one esle!? IS THERE NO ONE ESLE PROFESSOR X!?

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I don’t see “football” anywhere in the OP…or even a mention of an organized sport…so why the fuck are we still talking football training?

If you’re here just to argue with me, that’s pretty sad.

Have fun with that.

Nice thread you guys have here.