Dat Puffy-MuscleBrah (How I Train)

Training
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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Cron391 wrote:
I haven’t read the entirety of this whole thread, but I think most would agree after you get to certain level of weights, you CANT do 2 major muscles groups in the same day. IMO after a major muscle group you should be pretty dam tired…

Awesome work though![/quote]

Ill definitely agree with this. My back and triceps day is so brutal i can barely walk out of the gym after, the thought of adding another major muscle group in there makes me sad.[/quote]

Doing shoulders alone can often take an hour or more and doing anything else like back or legs would be damn near impossible without just going through the motions.

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Paul, in the first before and after pic, (the mirror pic) was the after the same as the one you posted where you are curling the dumbell? You look thick either way but look significantly bigger to me in the pic you posted with the DB in your hand.

Either way nice work, someone mentioned holy mac earlier, and thats the same thing i thought when you posted your current avatar. You definitely look like youve got the same kind of build as him. Potential to build some crazy thick arms.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Cron391 wrote:
I haven’t read the entirety of this whole thread, but I think most would agree after you get to certain level of weights, you CANT do 2 major muscles groups in the same day. IMO after a major muscle group you should be pretty dam tired…

Awesome work though![/quote]

Ill definitely agree with this. My back and triceps day is so brutal i can barely walk out of the gym after, the thought of adding another major muscle group in there makes me sad.[/quote]

Doing shoulders alone can often take an hour or more and doing anything else like back or legs would be damn near impossible without just going through the motions.

[/quote]

True, when i really think about it, the only muscle groups i can work in with others is bis and tris. Everything else just takes too much energy now.

And to think i started out doing total body workouts, squat deadlift and bench 3 times a week LOL.

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
gotcha all. haha

Paul you look very sexy & aesthetic and nobody wants to hear your input on bulking X.
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Apparently people missed this post of mine.

Also quite disappointed that people missed my sarcasm in the first place. What’s up with that Paulie?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Cron391 wrote:
I haven’t read the entirety of this whole thread, but I think most would agree after you get to certain level of weights, you CANT do 2 major muscles groups in the same day. IMO after a major muscle group you should be pretty dam tired…

Awesome work though![/quote]

Ill definitely agree with this. My back and triceps day is so brutal i can barely walk out of the gym after, the thought of adding another major muscle group in there makes me sad.[/quote]

Doing shoulders alone can often take an hour or more and doing anything else like back or legs would be damn near impossible without just going through the motions.

[/quote]

thats what happens when your as out of shape as you are, see i can post jabs to.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Paul, in the first before and after pic, (the mirror pic) was the after the same as the one you posted where you are curling the dumbell? You look thick either way but look significantly bigger to me in the pic you posted with the DB in your hand.

Either way nice work, someone mentioned holy mac earlier, and thats the same thing i thought when you posted your current avatar. You definitely look like youve got the same kind of build as him. Potential to build some crazy thick arms. [/quote]

the mirror pic is after, but not by much like few weeks tops I think in the dumbbell pic i was about 217 and the mirror pic about 214ish I think

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[quote]paulieserafini wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Paul, in the first before and after pic, (the mirror pic) was the after the same as the one you posted where you are curling the dumbell? You look thick either way but look significantly bigger to me in the pic you posted with the DB in your hand.

Either way nice work, someone mentioned holy mac earlier, and thats the same thing i thought when you posted your current avatar. You definitely look like youve got the same kind of build as him. Potential to build some crazy thick arms. [/quote]

the mirror pic is after, but not by much like few weeks tops I think in the dumbbell pic i was about 217 and the mirror pic about 214ish I think[/quote]

Guess its just angles/lighting.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]paulieserafini wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Paul, in the first before and after pic, (the mirror pic) was the after the same as the one you posted where you are curling the dumbell? You look thick either way but look significantly bigger to me in the pic you posted with the DB in your hand.

Either way nice work, someone mentioned holy mac earlier, and thats the same thing i thought when you posted your current avatar. You definitely look like youve got the same kind of build as him. Potential to build some crazy thick arms. [/quote]

the mirror pic is after, but not by much like few weeks tops I think in the dumbbell pic i was about 217 and the mirror pic about 214ish I think[/quote]

Guess its just angles/lighting. [/quote]

I mean I’m also flexing really hard in the dumbbell picture.

The difference between flexing and not flexing can make someone look probably 10-20lbs bigger than they really are know what I mean?

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[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Cron391 wrote:
I haven’t read the entirety of this whole thread, but I think most would agree after you get to certain level of weights, you CANT do 2 major muscles groups in the same day. IMO after a major muscle group you should be pretty dam tired…

Awesome work though![/quote]

Ill definitely agree with this. My back and triceps day is so brutal i can barely walk out of the gym after, the thought of adding another major muscle group in there makes me sad.[/quote]

Doing shoulders alone can often take an hour or more and doing anything else like back or legs would be damn near impossible without just going through the motions.

[/quote]

thats what happens when your as out of shape as you are, see i can post jabs to.[/quote]

…but your jabs don’t make sense. Yes, it takes an hour to do shoulders. That is why mine look like they do and your own need to wait on a “bulk” to ever be shown to anyone.

Stop typing and listen more. That advice can only help you in the future. Acting like you have so much to say when you are clearly so misinformed is just wasting your own time.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Cron391 wrote:
I haven’t read the entirety of this whole thread, but I think most would agree after you get to certain level of weights, you CANT do 2 major muscles groups in the same day. IMO after a major muscle group you should be pretty dam tired…

Awesome work though![/quote]

Ill definitely agree with this. My back and triceps day is so brutal i can barely walk out of the gym after, the thought of adding another major muscle group in there makes me sad.[/quote]

Doing shoulders alone can often take an hour or more and doing anything else like back or legs would be damn near impossible without just going through the motions.

[/quote]

thats what happens when your as out of shape as you are, see i can post jabs to.[/quote]

…but your jabs don’t make sense. Yes, it takes an hour to do shoulders. That is why mine look like they do and your own need to wait on a “bulk” to ever be shown to anyone.

Stop typing and listen more. That advice can only help you in the future. Acting like you have so much to say when you are clearly so misinformed is just wasting your own time.
[/quote]

True, I’m starting to feel like there should be a certain criteria needs to be met before people can give advice on here

Back to the OP; Paulie awesome work I’m looking forward to see you at possibly <10% bf. try not to get disheartened as the fat loss slows down I see exciting things ahead

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Since you are doing such a gradual cut, have you been able to experience any muslce or strength gain during this process? Do you feel youve experienced any losses?

Not that i care but i feel its pertinent to your answer, you did say you are natural right?

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Another thing is that there isn’t a complete lack of posters on this site that are accomplished and analytical in their training. Successful bodybuilders/powerlifters post tons of content on this site, and are very open to answering any question in great detail.

There’s no need for me to seek advice from someone who hasn’t accomplished much in their own right. At least personally, I toned down giving advice and am here more to listen than I was before. I don’t see why I should be writing essays about training here, while there are posters on this site who post videos squatting a weight over my max for 20+ reps lol. It dilutes the value of discussion if EVERYONE is allowed to put their 2 cents in, that’s why elitefts has Q&A format as opposed to a forum.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Since you are doing such a gradual cut, have you been able to experience any muslce or strength gain during this process? Do you feel youve experienced any losses?

Not that i care but i feel its pertinent to your answer, you did say you are natural right?[/quote]

Aswering the first question is going to be kind of complicated. And this is probably longer than it needs to be.

First, for pushing movements strength was just never in the cards for me, my shoulders suck and thanks to pounding huge weight on tricep isolations for the long head I have to be careful with my tender gay baby elbows.

Not to mention I’ve had hormonal issues along the way (haven’t gotten them checked in a while but I feel loads better than I did, to which I attribute to losing bodyfat and getting out of a job I hated.)

Okay so due to things like joint problems, my workouts from when I was a 250 pound fatty to the workouts I do now are completely different. So it’s a little hard to compare.

Things like moving from barbells to dumbbells.
Atleast for me going from barbell to dumbell coincidentally caused a big drop in poundage but also brought more focus on the chest rather than the front delt.

I’m definitely weaker than I was at 250, but relatively just as strong if that makes sense (body weight to weights moved in workouts)not to mention my form is way better with the weights I use these days… and I have continued to get stronger along the way on the different movements that I switched to.

for instance lets say on the lat pulldown as my FIRST lift of the day when I was 250 pounds I would do sets of 10 with 290lbs but my form was shit. I was rocking with some serious fucking momentum and doing all kinds of nonsense while using straps to hold the weight.

now I weigh about 212 pounds and I’ll do lat pulldowns with 220 lbs but with excellent form and no straps as my SECOND lift of the day

when I was 250 I was barbell benching about 250 for 3x10 but now at 212 I DUMB-BELL bench press 220 for 3x10. (I’m going back to barbell next week because my elbow is fucking killing me)

So yeah basically moving less weight but relatively just as strong while being more effective at targeting specific muscles.

AND YOUR SECOND QUESTION:

Yes I am 100% natural. (still not even on trt)
Never used a prohormone or anabolic steroid.

The closest thing I’ve ever used that could be considered as a Performance Enhancement Drug was ephedrine hcl (eca) out of one of those bronkaid medicines when I was not knowledgeable at all about dieting and had no idea what I was doing. Needless to say it had no effect on my body composition, but I definitely wanna give it another try when I am leaner since my diet is a trillion times better.

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For those who missed it and I guess a video shows how I look better in proportion to other people and real life and stuff.

college english project

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How much time has past between the now pic, and the pic where your playing with the dumbells. Do you think you will be much heavier, at the same BF as that pic. Great story, hard to wrap my head around this type of journey, cause I’ve never trained natural. Relentless!

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[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
How much time has past between the now pic, and the pic where your playing with the dumbells. Do you think you will be much heavier, at the same BF as that pic. Great story, hard to wrap my head around this type of journey, cause I’ve never trained natural. Relentless![/quote]

few weeks or so, there is seriously only a 3-4 pound difference.

haha.

Your question about my weight and bodyfat confuses me a lot, but I don’t think we will ever know unless I do an all out bulk or something

never trained natural?

So ever since the first day you were on AAS/PEDs?

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I trained for athletics (strength) till 27ish, than I got into owning gyms,and training others,at that point started training myself for aperance, and owning a gym(excuses)guys gave me shit,I was able to carry on with strength type training,but started looking like BB.I don’t give out BB advice,but I’m facinated by the willpower, and sacrifice. I thought the pic of you with db’s was older(before bulk) just wondered the length of your bulking and leaning faze, and how much improvement you’ll see when you get back to the same leanness as that pic. hope thats clears up my question. I get young kids in the gym all the time, wanting to be BB’s, so I’m interested in ways to help them grow naturaly. Thanks

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[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
For those who missed it and I guess a video shows how I look better in proportion to other people and real life and stuff.

college english project

Yep, you look like a pretty thick dude. Especially across the upper chest/traps/delts.

And i agree, certain body types/physiques dont come across as well in photo as they do in video. This is why i generally take progress videos of myself rather than pictures.

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[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
I trained for athletics (strength) till 27ish, than I got into owning gyms,and training others,at that point started training myself for aperance, and owning a gym(excuses)guys gave me shit,I was able to carry on with strength type training,but started looking like BB.I don’t give out BB advice,but I’m facinated by the willpower, and sacrifice. I thought the pic of you with db’s was older(before bulk) just wondered the length of your bulking and leaning faze, and how much improvement you’ll see when you get back to the same leanness as that pic. hope thats clears up my question. I get young kids in the gym all the time, wanting to be BB’s, so I’m interested in ways to help them grow naturaly. Thanks [/quote]

The dumbbell pic is like last month. I’ve been leaning down since about Feb 2012 very slowly as more of a life style change with health as a consideration rather than it just simply being a quick cut just to be lean.

When I got that fat I was in a dark place. I was in a job I hated, I was depressed and angry all the time, my hormones were out of wack and I was lonely.

Being really fucking fat didn’t help any of these and most likely caused every single one of them.

I think bulking is cool and was the best thing I’ve ever done (to an extent) but there was a point where it just got too excessive and uncool. No one should be that fat ever.

The “BULK” lasted around 3ish years for a while it wasn’t nearly that out of control for the first couple years I hovered around 15-20% which is high but imo not so high that I was worried about health problems or looking too fat (lez be honest if you have a decent amount of muscle you don’t look that bad at 20% but I think that is the absolute high end of the spectrum), it was the last year or so that I just said fuck all and got to 30%

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Cron391 wrote:
I haven’t read the entirety of this whole thread, but I think most would agree after you get to certain level of weights, you CANT do 2 major muscles groups in the same day. IMO after a major muscle group you should be pretty dam tired…

Awesome work though![/quote]

Ill definitely agree with this. My back and triceps day is so brutal i can barely walk out of the gym after, the thought of adding another major muscle group in there makes me sad.[/quote]

Doing shoulders alone can often take an hour or more and doing anything else like back or legs would be damn near impossible without just going through the motions.

[/quote]

True, when i really think about it, the only muscle groups i can work in with others is bis and tris. Everything else just takes too much energy now.

And to think i started out doing total body workouts, squat deadlift and bench 3 times a week LOL. [/quote]

I think theres more to consider here. I think an advanced lifter can hit two major workouts in the same day and multiple times per week. Just lower the volume, increase the frequency and exercise selection.