Shakes his head at this whole debate, and has to agree with Cy and John a bit. From my own personal experience, I know that I tend to buy supps in “groups” for example, Tribex, ZMA, andro and nandro were my last purchase. I do this because obviously, I am a family man, and finances dont allow me to do $400 worth of supps a month…they do allow me to every 3 or 4 months however, buy a nice “stack” Now for me, when I do my supp stack, I am also very conscious of what I eat…and try to train even harder to “maximize” my dollars spent in supps. Therefore, I do show far greater gains during those times. Is it because of the supps…yes, in part…but it is also because I am conscious of everything I eat…and very conscious of my training intensity…things I dont take as seriously when I am not supplementing. Now perhaps this is a phenomenon that is just unique to me…however I think a lot of people do the same thing, especially when they get a “new” supplement that they really believe in…and therefore the perception becomes reality.