[quote]Professor X wrote:
Apparently “bulk” now just means eat a lot and has nothing to with with training like you are insane.
I can see why it works for some and not others…and it isn’t exactly because of simply food choices.
if you train like an “average person” expect “average or below average” results.
The really big guys look that way because they don’t train like 98% of the other people in the gym lately…and then they go home and eat a horse.[/quote]
^^
It worked pretty well for Serge Nubret!
[quote]sexyxe wrote:
I think you ‘look like a pyramid’ because you don’t have shoulders or lats.
Work on that IMO. [/quote]
Impossible.[/quote]
I previously thought you were cynical, now I realise Chris is the nicest person on the planet and has an insane amount of will power to keep helping people, and you’re more my kinda bloke.
do you have a macro breakdown of your diet? Start by adding more carbs post workout. How long have you been doing this diet for? and how has your weight changed since you’ve been eating this way? Have you been training seriously these two years? how have your lifts changed since you started lifting?
[quote]aspengc8 wrote:
Can you guys elaborate as to why you think his training split is soft? He’s hitting each body part 2x/week with decent volume. Unless intensity is really low?[/quote]
looking at the diet, I doubt he’s going lights out as he should be in the weight room. If he’s eating that and not on the brink of passing out then he is training like a bitch.
No diss OP, just a thought, eat more…train harder
I would fix that leg day too, OP. You’re kinda neglecting the hamstrings, even though you give them sets of RDL, I don’t think that’s enough. If “would” be, if you treated them as you do the quat and go “10,8,6” rather than “4x10”
Add Leg Curls
Train your damned rear delts…1 movement at the beginning o shoulder day and 1 and the end
eat more, eat while you train[/quote]
How are you gonna call a split soft and then say add leg curls.
I have a similar build and when I was your age I trained with pretty much the same structure. I found that lower rep training did not give me the results is was looking for ( i just got strong). Include front shoulder raises in your routine and give more volume a try. Also try cutting down rest time to keep your heart rate going and cut down on the time in the gym. Two hours is a bit long. That may help burn some of that hip fat. Do not work your obliques with weights it will only make that tire more noticeable.
Just keep working hard and results will come. I it will get easier when you find out what works for you.
[quote]aspengc8 wrote:
Can you guys elaborate as to why you think his training split is soft? He’s hitting each body part 2x/week with decent volume. Unless intensity is really low?[/quote]
looking at the diet, I doubt he’s going lights out as he should be in the weight room. If he’s eating that and not on the brink of passing out then he is training like a bitch.
No diss OP, just a thought, eat more…train harder
I would fix that leg day too, OP. You’re kinda neglecting the hamstrings, even though you give them sets of RDL, I don’t think that’s enough. If “would” be, if you treated them as you do the quat and go “10,8,6” rather than “4x10”
Add Leg Curls
Train your damned rear delts…1 movement at the beginning o shoulder day and 1 and the end
eat more, eat while you train[/quote]
How are you gonna call a split soft and then say add leg curls.
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how are you gonna ask a dumb fuk question like this? lol
Dude had no direct hamstrings work, why avoid them? Did I say ONLY DO HAMSTRING CURLS?
Since when are Hcurls bad? Or soft? If they are then YOU do them wrong
as Prof X said, youre really not inaa position where losing weight will make you look better, the best thing right now would be to hammer the fuck out of shoulders back and legs which will help with appearences. You might want to be wary of just straight bulking though, ive found being someone that can pile on pounds easy that im making more gains now, maintaining or slightly increasing my weight slowly.
[quote]aspengc8 wrote:
Can you guys elaborate as to why you think his training split is soft? He’s hitting each body part 2x/week with decent volume. Unless intensity is really low?[/quote]
looking at the diet, I doubt he’s going lights out as he should be in the weight room. If he’s eating that and not on the brink of passing out then he is training like a bitch.
No diss OP, just a thought, eat more…train harder
I would fix that leg day too, OP. You’re kinda neglecting the hamstrings, even though you give them sets of RDL, I don’t think that’s enough. If “would” be, if you treated them as you do the quat and go “10,8,6” rather than “4x10”
Add Leg Curls
Train your damned rear delts…1 movement at the beginning o shoulder day and 1 and the end
eat more, eat while you train[/quote]
How are you gonna call a split soft and then say add leg curls.
[/quote]
leg curls doesnt mean you cant put an all out effort into it. I have sets of leg extentions and curls that made me collapse afterwards, i have sets of squats or lunges that didnt make tired at all. Know why? Effort. Even someone putting in 110% would see results from ‘sissy’ exercises. I would say leg curls are good, and GHR most ppl do neglect the hams and should add alot more hammys to their programs.
Thats how you can call a porgram soft and then suggest leg curls.
[quote]myself1992 wrote:
do you have a macro breakdown of your diet? Start by adding more carbs post workout. How long have you been doing this diet for? and how has your weight changed since you’ve been eating this way? Have you been training seriously these two years? how have your lifts changed since you started lifting?[/quote]
At one point in time, I had everything little molecule broken down into macros, but as time progressed I got a little ‘sorry’ and just dropped the whole thing. I’m def putting carbs back in post workout (35-50g of waxy maize) I’ve been doing this exact same diet for about 2months now. I started a similar diet out back in November but w/out any carbs so it would help strip some fat off. I would say from a personal exp. that I try to go hard in the gym everyday, I never talk to ppl, It’s metal blaring in my ears and metal in my hands. As far as lifts go, I just started trying to convert into a BB style as opposed to my olympic style training. My strength has made a slight improvement only about 10lbs in each of the big three, in the past two months. As far as weight goes, back in november I weighed close to 220 ( a previous ‘bulk’ cylcle gone horribly wrong) I stripped off 20lbs in 4months, and then started adding carbs back into my diet just 3 med sweet potatoes and since then my weight has stayed around 200, I’m 202 as of 3/16/12, as far as workout routine I started in feb, doing a wendler variation in my big three lifts, and as far a supplemental lifts I just did the standard 4x8-12 muslce hypertrophy range lifting. Like I said strength made slight gains 10lbs in the big three, but everything else is pretty stagnant.
[quote]myself1992 wrote:
do you have a macro breakdown of your diet? Start by adding more carbs post workout. How long have you been doing this diet for? and how has your weight changed since you’ve been eating this way? Have you been training seriously these two years? how have your lifts changed since you started lifting?[/quote]
At one point in time, I had everything little molecule broken down into macros, but as time progressed I got a little ‘sorry’ and just dropped the whole thing. I’m def putting carbs back in post workout (35-50g of waxy maize) I’ve been doing this exact same diet for about 2months now. I started a similar diet out back in November but w/out any carbs so it would help strip some fat off. I would say from a personal exp. that I try to go hard in the gym everyday, I never talk to ppl, It’s metal blaring in my ears and metal in my hands. As far as lifts go, I just started trying to convert into a BB style as opposed to my olympic style training. My strength has made a slight improvement only about 10lbs in each of the big three, in the past two months. As far as weight goes, back in november I weighed close to 220 ( a previous ‘bulk’ cylcle gone horribly wrong) I stripped off 20lbs in 4months, and then started adding carbs back into my diet just 3 med sweet potatoes and since then my weight has stayed around 200, I’m 202 as of 3/16/12, as far as workout routine I started in feb, doing a wendler variation in my big three lifts, and as far a supplemental lifts I just did the standard 4x8-12 muslce hypertrophy range lifting. Like I said strength made slight gains 10lbs in the big three, but everything else is pretty stagnant.[/quote]
Well, body composition wise, you’re only now training like a bb so I think you’re going to start seeing some body recomp changes faster than you were before. I wouldn’t bulk right now if I were you since you don’t store fat particularly well so bulking up is just going to make you miserable I think. Being you I’d take the advice the others said about your split and take in at least 1.5 grams protein per pound without really changing your diet and then reassess in a month or two. Also, don’t jump from program to program, I see you were doing olympic lifting, then wendler barely a month ago and now bb style. give your programs some time to work and reassess every so often and make slight adjustments as you see necessary
^^ Thanks alot, your right though, I need to stay consistent with my programs, I appreciate all the advice from you and all other posters, I plan to make these changes and then revisit this post in a couple of months and repost pics.
[quote]Bloodbayne3 wrote:
^^ Thanks alot, your right though, I need to stay consistent with my programs, I appreciate all the advice from you and all other posters, I plan to make these changes and then revisit this post in a couple of months and repost pics.
Can’t wait to hit the gym and thanks again to all[/quote]
cool man keep us posted. You might also wanna open up a log here, it’ll help you a lot i think
Damm man reading your post was like reading somthing I would write about myself. Same height weight ect. I’m currently in the same situation as you where I’m eating more than ever before and lifting with good mind muscle connection but struggling to gain lean muscle. You just gotta keep at it and don’t be disheartened, eventually you’ll find what works.
For the more experienced bodybuilders here, would you be sore the next day after every session you do?