Let me know where I ever put those guys down, let alone ridicule.
I was a middleweight.
I trained for more than a year on a bro split considering I used a bro split in the past.
I never put down Meadows, nor did I discredit Westside or other systems.
I didn’t quit. I had a son seven weeks ago and I chose not to continue competitive bodybuilding considering I believe the endeavor will interfere with child raising. Or do you consider that trivial?
What “level” are other people living on? I’m quite happy with my own life.
I’m not the biggest guy around, but people who compete shredded at 171-173# at 5’10" AND shredded are not just dieted down, that is, they didn’t partake in a “dieting contest”.
I’ll write more later in my defense but it’s apparent you have now idea about all the content I’ve published here besides bodybuilding training, how I’ve trained on and off since I was a teenager, my academic credentials and so on. And yes, if one turns up in the shape and form I did, coupled with being an RD, and the vast amount of knowledge I have from such, they do know how to show others how it’s done.
Criticizing me for not knowing much more than bro splits?! This is laughable. I actually went to one of Wendler’s two day seminars in '05. Do you know my life story or how I live my life today considering you assert I have envy of others I pay not much mind to, or have an idea of how they live their lives.
You might actually have a good physique. I don’t know what you look like. Maybe you blow me away. So put up a picture so you can disparage those on here who enter “dieting contests”.
Well yes, I did, and almost anyone even remotely serious to training has. Nothing remarkable, basically newbie gains. Brings us to the next point of you, and brosplits. You think a whole year of training with a training method makes you, or the system, superior to others ? Really?
And no, I don’t think any hobby goes before family. Nothing does. But, you stated that you didn’t like how you didn’t feel athletic enough training with brosplits, to play basketball with your broz?
You cant lift for 3 exercises 3 sets 8-12 reps for a bodypart ONCE a week and play basketball with your buddies? And you are a “pro” bodybuilder, and dietician, overtrumping people who actually has credits in bodybuilding and massbuilding?
Also, discrediting highER frequency training?
Because you made newbie gains on a brosplit and so has plenty of other guys done.
You know what, in the early days ppl grew a shitload on 3day fullbody programs, and enteres contests, and sometimes won too. Does it make it a superior training method to everything else in bodybuilding? Doubt it.
II need TRT for my medical condition since 22 years old. A natural gain of 44 pounds has been achieved by few. Put up a pic to show us.
I would’ve competed more had it not been for the birth of my son and forgone some park games. I think you need to read my posts more clearly. You have a habit of misinterpreting damn near everything I write.
Post picture of your noob 44 pound mass gain which few can achieve naturally and are far more than noob gains.
Ask anyone close to me about why I stopped. It ain’t about a game of handball!
In all my lifting I did far more than a year in bro splits. You seem to say with much confidence things about my 38 year existence and continue to literally make shit up.
Nope, not if it doesn’t give them an advantage in the sport they arw involved in. And also, in your situation nothing stopped you from entering a non-tested contest.
It’s like… say you lost your arms, and got cyborg arms that only operates at the optimal level for your body. But they don’t fatigue, so you can benchpress at optimal level far more often than the regular steve with his puny organ arms. BUT still you couldn’t turn the switch to quite ultra strong.
But you wouldn’t necessarily fatigue as much.
Also the federation I competed in allows TRT provided there is confirmed medical need. Two natural organizations do so. Do I followed rules and provided proof. I have never ever did anything besides take medication. And actually I was going to consider an NPC show two weeks beforehand but chose to focus on one show.
Considering I know about training going quite far back, since the turn of the century, and have been following BB since '93 or so, I know this. Thanks for reminding me though. It appears you’re clearly underestimating my knowledge or just how long I’ve been following BB.
No, I’m really not. Even the slightest. I actually respect you for that, and also I have nothing personally against you, it just irritates the fuck out of me how you praise brosplits.
If you can tell me why the superior way for a natural is to train with this or similar plan, I will rest my case;
@briansmith - What are you hoping to achieve by insulting the knowledge of Brick? He has been a very helpful, active member of these forums for as long as I have been around. So you don’t agree with some of his views? That’s fine, but this childish “call-out” is unwarranted.
Yes, he has spoke to the effectiveness and preference towards “bro-splits”, as have thousands of successful bodybuilders. That is his right to have a training preference and to encourage others to use what he has found to be the most successful method of muscular gains.
When I’m suggesting programs to friends, I tend to lean towards 5/3/1, a more strength based program. This is because I’m familiar with it and I have run it for extended periods with my own success. This would never make me discredit the bro-splits or people who recommend them as that would be pure ignorance. After you are in the game a while you tend to lean one way or another, but a big part of it is understanding that there is “more than one way to skin a cat”.
Also, bad form on the TRT comment. Brick was up front about the use and his medical condition and using that in argument is immature.
If you aren’t bigger or more knowledgeable than Brick or can’t contribute anything useful please refrain from continuing this argument.
You replied to an almost month old thread,that had a ton of intelligent, objective and supported information because you disagree with Brick? Really?
I"m not gonna get into a point by point dispute, because everyone is entitled to their opinions, but the guy has educational credentials that absolutely trump most “Experts” that many people put on pedestals, he walked the walk as an actual successful competitor (something many experts haven’t and will never do), and what he believes is actually shared by the majority of successful and informed people in the sport. You’re admitting to your newbie gains, and feel you’re in a position to not merely question (because you can do that all you want), but come across in an almost hostile manner seems quite uncalled for IMO.
Some interesting points, not sure why you seem to be so aggressive and agitated on Brick’s opinion of splits. I also don’t know why you keep calling them “brosplits” like there’s not research to prove a split routine works. I’m not saying other methods don’t work, but there is certainly no shortage of research that shows hitting a muscle group hard every 5-7 days is a good plan for growth in both size and strength.
This should be modified to say, “everything can work, but not forever.” A split routine is not a novelty. Ask ANY WNBF or natural bodybuilding pro how they train, I’ll bet you they’ll say with a split routine. When change is needed, you change certain factors, like exercises, frequency, rep ranges, volume, intensifiers like drop sets, etc. Or, maybe instead of training 6 days a week, go to 4 to allow for more recovery. Or, hit a full body routine 3x per week. But 9 times out of 10, the foundation of any serious bodybuilder’s routine is going to be a split routine.
I’ve done many full body routines since I started training. I even prepped for my first contest on a 3x per week full body routine. That being said, I prefer the results I’ve had with a split routine. Again, ask any natural competitor how they train, 95% will say splits.
How many have you done? I bet the answer is 0. I think anyone who reduces the mental and physical demands of a bodybuilding prep to a “dieting contest” clearly has no knowledge of what is involved and has never attempted one on their own.
Not sure why you keep saying “quitting”. Brick still trains and keeps his conditioning tight. Pretty sure having a baby and a family is more important than competing. Again, if you had ever done a prep, you’d realize that it’s not possible to both raise a newborn and prep at the same time.
Can you enlighten us as to which bodybuilders prepped on a 3x per week full body program throughout their prep and won shows? Not saying which bodybuilders trained 3x per week sometimes, I’m talking about during a contest prep, throughout the entire thing, as you wrote.
How do you train @briansmith? Any pics you can upload to show your results?
