Creating a Bodybuilding Textbook

[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SSC wrote:

That’s my .02. If Professor X (sub in with any other truly notable member) decided to do a show this upcoming June you can bet your ass there’d be three times as many people being critical about it. That’s part of the game - If you can’t handle the heat, get the fudge out of the kitchen. Not sure if this makes any sense when written out.[/quote]

And this is why I would not post my progress at that level on this site in the forums. Why would I put myself through that? They already act like everything I write needs to be analyzed like I’m in court and the bottom line is, the better shape I get in, the more people will simply hate on it. What benefit is it for someone more experienced to get hounded by people who don’t even look like serious weight lifters or who don’t even have pics of themselves up at all?

This isn’t about not being able to take the heat.

It’s like some loud woman claiming a man doesn’t want to be with her because he can’t handle a woman like that…when the truth is, why would he want to?

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I’m not totally sure if I’m reading the context of your writing correctly, so forgive me if I’m totally off-basis with my response. You’re right, it’s not about being able to take the heat.

However, when doing a local show you’d better have a damn fine physique to present on stage. So much of what goes into those shows is political, so going in to a show without the best possible physique is setting yourself up for failure. If Akuma is too self-conscious to show pictures of his stomach and whatever else on a (basically) anonymous online forum, it’s going to be 20x tougher for him to do it in person with his friends, family, competitors, and (possibly clueless) judges all watching him.

The original reason I addressed Skynett’s point was because the guys who before DID call him out make progress. A lot of it, consistently.

I hope Akuma all the best, and I’m very curious to see how muscular he really is in contest shape… but I also find it to be kind of a sham the way the events transpired.

Akuma: Doing a show!
Them: Ok, zweet. Pictures?
Akuma: Here’s some wearing a parka!
Them: Not enough.
Akuma: Gawd whatever everyone needs to back off and let me do my thing.
Crickets

Now, less than three months out from the show, he’s no where to be found.[/quote]

Fucker please, there are people at the gym who have competed that I would take the opinion of LONG before I gave a shit what some skinny fuckers on this site have to say when most haven’t been able to break 15" on their biceps yet and even more can’t figure out how to ramp up in weight without a scientific calculator.

These are the same people who acted like I was obese for years even though they are still small.

There MAY be 4 people on this site (if you include CT) that I would even pay attention to as far as advice on what I should do to be stage ready and that is because they have been there and done that themselves…and made mistakes and learned from them. The rest seem to be more caught up in finding a fault than actually learning themselves.

If that wasn’t the case, this site would have way more really built people on it after the last fucking decade.

With that in mind, what the living fuck of a benefit will it do me to look for advice here when most here need to be TAKING advice?

What will the average poster inform me of? What brilliant light of wisdom will come from the guy who benches 135lbs, trains “TBT” 2-3 times a week and thinks 160lbs is "too big’?

I really want to know.

I will also say I didn’t follow that thread with Akuma but noticed early on that people were jumping on him in that thread…which is why I avoided reading it after that. I didn’t see much POSITIVE criticism at all.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
I’m not sure what it is you think you are ‘proving’… if you wanted to illustrate that people take offense when you shit on something they are involved in, then excellent catch, Sherlock. If you wanted to showcase friends sticking up for one another when some doucher they don’t know calls them out, then anyone here could have just saved you the trouble by saying it’s a “no shit” revelation of yours. If you feel that any adult actually cares about what people whom they’ve never met do with their wardrobes then maybe a hiatus from this site is in order for you.

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That may be true, but they certainly all jumped in and gang-fucked Akuma in his prep thread. I really didn’t see any provocation for that. [/quote]

I just reread the Akuma thread and honestly there were four people posting I didn’t know were a part of the same little e-gang until just now.

For the most part, though, the content of the criticism made sense - the ‘progress pics’ were pretty lame and if Akuma wasn’t comfortable being shirtless at that point he should’ve just said so rather than try to pass those off as legitimate updates.

One of the few things I told Akuma was that he will be much happier when he realizes that, from a personal standpoint, everyone on this site can go fuck themselves. The guy simply gets bent outta shape over things much easier than most and that only adds to the drama.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
It’s just that the T-Nation forums are so divisive as it is. Now if there’s going to be a big group hopping on people as a single entity every time there is a difference of opinion, I think that’s just going to help stifle any attempts at decent discourse. I mean, shit - if every time there’s a disagreement people feel like they going to get gang-banged by 10 guys backing each other up - well, I think that will lead to people just not wanting to post much, if at all.

And I have nothing against these guys - in fact, Austin, Bug - are guys I’ve always liked on these boards. I just don’t want to see people picked on with a gang mentality like I saw in Akuma’s thread.[/quote]

True, but 80% of the time many of them “hop on” anything it’s with lame jokes and high fives. See Akuma’s thread for this. ebomb was making good posts, as was BONEZ and SSC. The rest were cheerleaders.

But then, that has more to do with them being friends than it does being brainwashed into some sort of Facebook tribe, which is what I think roybot is whining about. I don’t think many people NOT wearing those T-shirts find them as hilarious as they do themselves.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I will also say I didn’t follow that thread with Akuma but noticed early on that people were jumping on him in that thread…which is why I avoided reading it after that. I didn’t see much POSITIVE criticism at all.[/quote]

From what I remember the thread was going pretty well up until the last four or five pages, or so. Then it turned into one of those times I wished the moderators were a little more aggressive in policing the on-topic sections to prevent quality threads from getting derailed.

After the initial criticisms, 90% of the posts turned out to be one sentence tripe.

I’m not sure what I could have said to warrant being called a fucker, so… that’s cool. Great job acting above reproach.

I deliberately hesitated writing your name instead of someone else because I knew this would turn into an argument about… something… but mostly about you.

Anyway, I wish Akuma all the best.

Anonym, you seem to have it right. There is fault on both sides, both Akuma for putting himself in a positioned in which he may be highly scrutinized and also to every poster who decided to do nothing but berate him because it was the cool thing to do.

Wait, so I can’t use the words “boopsy and fucker” without someone throwing a tantrum? I am glad I didn’t use “Ni@@a please” because some here might just have a heart attack.

Could someone make me a list of all of the names I CAN use so these people won’t get their feelings hurt so easily?

is anyone else as totally confused as i am right now?

cliffs?

I read it more like in a “bitch please” or “nigga please” kind of way, not said about you but at you. It didn’t come across as an insult to me. It’s like… In a banterous sort of way.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wait, so I can’t use the words “boopsy and fucker” without someone throwing a tantrum? I am glad I didn’t use “Ni@@a please” because some here might just have a heart attack.

Could someone make me a list of all of the names I CAN use so these people won’t get their feelings hurt so easily?[/quote]

If you think that I was offended by you calling me a “fucker,” you’ve truly missed the point. Apparently I have to do this point-by-point again.

Skynett talked about unfair judging of Akuma.
I agreed, but said that he should be accountable as well… while casually mentioning your name (again: BIG mistake. Please go back and edit “MODOK” with your name and this entire set of events don’t unfold.)
Skynett somewhat agreed.
You made a post.
I agreed with you.
You argued with me.

That is LITERALLY how each post went down. I openly welcome and encourage you to investigate the matter as well.

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
I’m not sure what it is you think you are ‘proving’… if you wanted to illustrate that people take offense when you shit on something they are involved in, then excellent catch, Sherlock. If you wanted to showcase friends sticking up for one another when some doucher they don’t know calls them out, then anyone here could have just saved you the trouble by saying it’s a “no shit” revelation of yours. If you feel that any adult actually cares about what people whom they’ve never met do with their wardrobes then maybe a hiatus from this site is in order for you.

[/quote]

That may be true, but they certainly all jumped in and gang-fucked Akuma in his prep thread. I really didn’t see any provocation for that. [/quote]

I just reread the Akuma thread and honestly there were four people posting I didn’t know were a part of the same little e-gang until just now.

For the most part, though, the content of the criticism made sense - the ‘progress pics’ were pretty lame and if Akuma wasn’t comfortable being shirtless at that point he should’ve just said so rather than try to pass those off as legitimate updates.

One of the few things I told Akuma was that he will be much happier when he realizes that, from a personal standpoint, everyone on this site can go fuck themselves. The guy simply gets bent outta shape over things much easier than most and that only adds to the drama.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
It’s just that the T-Nation forums are so divisive as it is. Now if there’s going to be a big group hopping on people as a single entity every time there is a difference of opinion, I think that’s just going to help stifle any attempts at decent discourse. I mean, shit - if every time there’s a disagreement people feel like they going to get gang-banged by 10 guys backing each other up - well, I think that will lead to people just not wanting to post much, if at all.

And I have nothing against these guys - in fact, Austin, Bug - are guys I’ve always liked on these boards. I just don’t want to see people picked on with a gang mentality like I saw in Akuma’s thread.[/quote]

True, but 80% of the time many of them “hop on” anything it’s with lame jokes and high fives. See Akuma’s thread for this. ebomb was making good posts, as was BONEZ and SSC. The rest were cheerleaders.

But then, that has more to do with them being friends than it does being brainwashed into some sort of Facebook tribe, which is what I think roybot is whining about. I don’t think many people NOT wearing those T-shirts find them as hilarious as they do themselves.[/quote]

Hey now, some of us are just too lazy to a picture of us wearing our tribe shirt.

I probably came off as one of those cheerleaders towards the end of the that holocaust of a thread, but my sentiments were clear and most posters would agree that Akuma needed to be accounted for, otherwise no one will take him seriously. If he wanted the “gangbanging” to stop, then most post progress pictures that don’t make him look foolish. For crying out loud, there was a point in that thread were he was debating that from his pictures his biceps were leaner, and there hardly any considerable difference.

So…
I ran all the way over here from the “Uncle Whoops Ass” Thread, w/my damn pants saggin to hell and shirtless bcz i broke my belt beatin my “chirren” and I spent my t-shirt money on blunts and bitches (u had to be there)…because I thought somebody was writing a damn book that was gonna tell me how to look like Pro X…

DAMN’IT! I shudda kept my ass where I was…

So howz about one’a them INTENSITY T-shirts…hunh? I’ll gladly pay you on Tuesday, for one today.

I gotta be “eJumped in” you say? or I could “eRob a convenience store”? I gotta eSHOOT SOMEONE?!?!? This sounds alot like an eGANG!

NO SIR…NOT ME! I will not be a part of any sort of “eLLegal” activity. I’ll wait 'til payday and buy a pack of Hanes. Keep your Intensity! eTHUGS!..LOLOLOL

j/k pplz

[quote]JeeKeu wrote:
So…
I ran all the way over here from the “Uncle Whoops Ass” Thread, w/my damn pants saggin to hell and shirtless bcz i broke my belt beatin my “chirren” and I spent my t-shirt money on blunts and bitches (u had to be there)…because I thought somebody was writing a damn book that was gonna tell me how to look like Pro X…

DAMN’IT! I shudda kept my ass where I was…

So howz about one’a them INTENSITY T-shirts…hunh? I’ll gladly pay you on Tuesday, for one today.

I gotta be “eJumped in” you say? or I could “eRob a convenience store”? I gotta eSHOOT SOMEONE?!?!? This sounds alot like an eGANG!

NO SIR…NOT ME! I will not be a part of any sort of “eLLegal” activity. I’ll wait 'til payday and buy a pack of Hanes. Keep your Intensity! eTHUGS!..LOLOLOL

j/k pplz

[/quote]

Contact KingBeef…he was able to get his hands onto an INTENSITY Shirt replica…he might be able to get you something on the hush hush.

Also, DoubleDuce has started his own line of “Moderate Intensity” clothing, he may consider an offer for one…

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:
Contact KingBeef…he was able to get his hands onto an INTENSITY Shirt replica…he might be able to get you something on the hush hush.

Also, DoubleDuce has started his own line of “Moderate Intensity” clothing, he may consider an offer for one…[/quote]

Thanks for telling me this now, man… I already bought stock in Bricknyce’s “I’d Rather Have a Life” clothing line.

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]JeeKeu wrote:
So…
I ran all the way over here from the “Uncle Whoops Ass” Thread, w/my damn pants saggin to hell and shirtless bcz i broke my belt beatin my “chirren” and I spent my t-shirt money on blunts and bitches (u had to be there)…because I thought somebody was writing a damn book that was gonna tell me how to look like Pro X…

DAMN’IT! I shudda kept my ass where I was…

So howz about one’a them INTENSITY T-shirts…hunh? I’ll gladly pay you on Tuesday, for one today.

I gotta be “eJumped in” you say? or I could “eRob a convenience store”? I gotta eSHOOT SOMEONE?!?!? This sounds alot like an eGANG!

NO SIR…NOT ME! I will not be a part of any sort of “eLLegal” activity. I’ll wait 'til payday and buy a pack of Hanes. Keep your Intensity! eTHUGS!..LOLOLOL

j/k pplz

[/quote]

Contact KingBeef…he was able to get his hands onto an INTENSITY Shirt replica…he might be able to get you something on the hush hush.

Also, DoubleDuce has started his own line of “Moderate Intensity” clothing, he may consider an offer for one…[/quote]

No thanks…I’m “eBlack”…I don’t need any eGang affiliations aside from my pigmentation…LMAO!

I’m amused.

I’m confused as to how Akuma got worked into the convo. I’m also confused as to why all the Intensity shirts are still being worn, but I’m amused nonetheless.

[quote]NoWheyOut wrote:
is anyone else as totally confused as i am right now?

cliffs?[/quote]

  1. just another gay thread on T-Nation
  2. ??? that’s about it.

[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
I’m amused.

I’m confused as to how Akuma got worked into the convo. I’m also confused as to why all the Intensity shirts are still being worn, but I’m amused nonetheless.[/quote]

You’re amused, I’m confused.

And the other way around too, apparently.

Hm.

This forum sure gets better every day.

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]JeeKeu wrote:
So…
I ran all the way over here from the “Uncle Whoops Ass” Thread, w/my damn pants saggin to hell and shirtless bcz i broke my belt beatin my “chirren” and I spent my t-shirt money on blunts and bitches (u had to be there)…because I thought somebody was writing a damn book that was gonna tell me how to look like Pro X…

DAMN’IT! I shudda kept my ass where I was…

So howz about one’a them INTENSITY T-shirts…hunh? I’ll gladly pay you on Tuesday, for one today.

I gotta be “eJumped in” you say? or I could “eRob a convenience store”? I gotta eSHOOT SOMEONE?!?!? This sounds alot like an eGANG!

NO SIR…NOT ME! I will not be a part of any sort of “eLLegal” activity. I’ll wait 'til payday and buy a pack of Hanes. Keep your Intensity! eTHUGS!..LOLOLOL

j/k pplz

[/quote]

Contact KingBeef…he was able to get his hands onto an INTENSITY Shirt replica…he might be able to get you something on the hush hush.

Also, DoubleDuce has started his own line of “Moderate Intensity” clothing, he may consider an offer for one…[/quote]

Your mind will be blown, in due time.

[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
I’m amused.

I’m confused as to how Akuma got worked into the convo. I’m also confused as to why all the Intensity shirts are still being worn, but I’m amused nonetheless.[/quote]

I was wearing one of mine today and then I took an deep breath and it exploded right off my body. Burst at the seams…

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
I’m amused.

I’m confused as to how Akuma got worked into the convo. I’m also confused as to why all the Intensity shirts are still being worn, but I’m amused nonetheless.[/quote]

I was wearing one of mine today and then I took an deep breath and it exploded right off my body. Burst at the seams…[/quote]

I would hate to be around you if you pass gas.