But, unless she’s rendered herself permanently infertile, she hasn’t done enough for mankind.
Cute, but worthless.
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why do you have such a high level of vitriol towards this person? I’m really not understanding this, especially coming from someone who has previously talked about the value of individual freedoms. The girl made her own decision to self-isolate, after making her own decision to take a covid test. Are those weird things to do? You’re welcome to debate that. But I don’t understand why this is such a big deal to you. You would be defending other peoples rights to do stupid shit that doesn’t hurt anybody else in most cases, if I understand your general political position properly. Is that correct? This isn’t an example of the government overstepping, it’s someone acting in accordance with their own belief system.
You think this woman opposes mandates? I’ll concede that I had not even considered that as a possibility. It is possible. I’ll leave the probability of that to your imagination. Edit: If she supports the mandates of the last year-plus, I do NOT care what happens to her; she could be fed to a pack of wolves and I wouldn’t care.
Someone like her should still refrain from passing on her genes. Sorry, not sorry. I do not support punishing the mentally ill for reproducing, but I also don’t believe they should.
I have no idea. I know that I, personally, am totally fine with what she did, though. I also know that if I were in some sort of situation where I was around a lot of people, and in the midst of that gathering, I found out that I had tested positive for Covid, I would remove myself from that situation if at all possible, because I have no desire to transmit covid to another person. I’ve had it. It sucks. I don’t want to put anyone else in a position where they have to miss two weeks of work (more or less) because I was unwilling to isolate myself for a few hours. And I also do not support vaccine mandates.
Now, would I take a covid in the middle of a flight, after I’d just had 5 negative tests? Almost certainly not, but the fact is that she did, and she happened to be right. So I can’t really give her too much shit for that, she thought she had covid, she tested herself, and she did have it. It was a good guess. I don’t think that half qualifies as stupid, because if it was any other illness, we wouldn’t say that. She was exercising an abundance of caution, and as such, ended up having to make the decision to isolate.
If I was sitting next to her, I certainly would have appreciated that she got the fuck away from me after the positive test.
I’m curious where you take the biggest issue with her actions, or where she did something that qualifies as ‘mentally ill’. Is that hyperbole? Do you actually think her actions are an example of mental illness? I think that’s a hell of a stretch, as someone who has a psychology degree and has spent a lot of time working with people with cognitive disabilities.
So is the biggest issue that she was paranoid enough to take the test? If that’s where you think she was being ridiculous, I understand the viewpoint. Not to the extent that she shouldn’t procreate, lol. But I get it. I thoroughly disagree with the idea that she should have just continued to sit in her seat AFTER she tested positive, though. That would have made her an asshole.
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My biggest issue is with the absurdity of the whole situation/cry for attention. She should never have gotten on a plane if she wasn’t satisfied that it was safe to do so-that’s not a place from which you can easily remove yourself, so just don’t get on. She’s a piece of shit for that if nothing else.
I’ve never said she should have continued to sit in her seat after testing positive.
I’m failing to see how this is a cry for attention. To me, this looks like a really shitty plane ride.
Sure, that’s not a bad take. Although I think that’s not EXACTLY what happened here.
Here’s how I read it. Woman takes a zillion covid tests before a flight, is convinced she doesn’t have covid, isn’t presenting any symptoms, so she feels like she’s good to go. So far so good.
Woman presents symptoms on the plane. She COULD have ignored these until the flight ended, and I think that’s what most people would have done. But, she took a test. Tests are super easy to take, it’s a swab in your nose for 5 seconds. If she had some on her, or they were available on the plane, whatever. My guess is, she thought she was being paranoid and just wanted to ease her mind, make sure she didn’t actually have Covid. I actually thought that’s what I was doing when I tested positive a few months ago. I thought I was being overly cautious, but nope! I had it. So I can imagine that she was just hoping to test negative and feel relief for the rest of her flight. I see absolutely nothing nefarious there, or really anything I can really fault her for. We move on.
Positive test. This is the shitty situation. Because, as you said, no easy way to remove yourself at that point. So she did her best.
The ONLY way I see this as a cry for attention/publicity stunt of any kind would be if one of two things were true, and they would both be under the assumption she lied. Either: she knew beforehand that she had covid, flew anyway, and then went through everything that happened afterwards just to get attention. Seems very unlikely, that’s borderline conspiracy theory when you think of everything that would go into making that lie work. Occams razor applies here. The other situation would be if she didn’t actually have Covid on the plane, and made it up, did the bathroom stunt, etc. But from what I read, she tested positive upon landing as well, so I don’t believe that’s the case either.
There is a level of absurdity to ‘the whole situation’. But I don’t think that absurdity of the situation is indicative that the woman has poor character, and I can’t agree with this:
You can tell me where you think my reasoning goes off track, if you think it does.
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Maybe you missed the videos she took of herself in the plane’s bathroom and in her hotel room.
We use the word “humankind” here, you nazi.
(Sarcasm)
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I offer my sincerest apology for my white, male privilege. Not that I feel much need to offer an apology to an Asian male…maybe you owe me one; I’m not sure which of us is in last place in Victim Olympics.
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I’ll tell you how I first took the story: the woman didn’t want to be around her family, so she found an out. I’m actually still about 50/50 on whether it was that or mental issues/hypochondria.
I see what you did there.
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White male is last place
In Australia there’s a huuuuuge anti Asian sentiment (that I never brought into)
When I was Down Under, I’ve only heard complaints about “the Lebs/Lebbos”.
Didn’t know anti Asian was still a thing.
Perhaps to the uninitiated. To heroine users it ain’t shit.
I am a little torn on this. naloxone isn’t without it’s own problems. But definitely a good thing in the first phase of weening. With addiction, it’s not one habit you are trying to break, it’s many. And it’s best taken on either gradually, or cold turkey-with methadone. It’s a little surprising that the US does not allow the Ibogaine and other treatments given how bad the problem got here. But then again, nobody is interested in our health it’s about power and money. And keeping addicts, addicted is profitable.
Naloxone isn’t an opiate and it doesn’t provide a high. You can’t develop a tolerance to naloxone, nor can you become dependent on it.
I don’t believe this is a genuine belief that you hold. That’s utterly ridiculous. There are MUCH easier ways to avoid family than this… Again, Occam’s razor.
So are you suggesting that she planned this whole thing out ahead of time?
A cry for attention after the fact is one thing. We can agree that there is a large segment of the young population that feels the need to broadcast every fucking thing they do and try to be the center of attention if ANYTHING unusual ever happens in their life, and that those people are annoying. I’ve been off social media for awhile because of this. But, that comes across to me as much more of her being a part of her generation than anything else.
I interpreted ‘cry for attention’ as you suggesting this was a planned/staged event for the sake of attention. So if I read this wrong, my apologies. But yea, I’m sure the videos she made are dumb.
I know what Naloxone is. The problem is it blocks the action of opiates. And that mechanism itself can be problematic for other medications as well as adverse events. I am not saying it’s a bad idea. I am saying it’s best to be cautious with it as treatment can take years and nalaxone is not something you want to take a lot of.
That problem is problematic if you’re taking opiates… and it’s not really a problem as much as it is a “well I need to take more heroin to get high now”
Orally, naloxone has a very low bioavailability… it exists in formulation with buprenorphine and oxycodone to deter people from crushing and injecting the drugs, as doing so would = no funtime
To my knowledge, the only moderate to major interactions naloxone has the potential to interact with are other opiates/opioids
Not a problem unless you are a chronic pain patient dependent who needs pain relief and/or you have an accident, require hospitalisation and pain relief… but then they can just give you a higher dose… until the naloxone wears off…
Normalize heart issues in the young. When has there been these types of “awareness” campaigns. I have posted many others in the other thread.
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