COVID-19 Vaccine Side Effects

I did a couple of years of law school before I knocked up my wife and quit to start teaching.

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What are your thoughts on Jacobson?

I think part of the reasoning of Jacobson was that the decision was being made LOCALLY and wasn’t a Federal one size fits all approach.

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Not familiar with US law and it’s application pertaining to State vs Fed or whatever it’s all a blur to me, but thanks for the answer.

BTW on a separate note, I normally get spammed by investment groups on WhatsApp and Telegram.

Now I’m getting local anti-vaxxer groups. FUCK.

WTF is wrong with these people?

Covid is ‘local’ to the entire US.

Pay a fine a bit over $150 in today’s money, and you were good to go. And it was a local ordinance allowed by the State.

We have no Covid issue here in the Houston area that would necessitate a mandatory vaccination. Haven’t heard the word “Covid” on the local news in a long time.

This statements indicates one of three things:
Houstonites have achieved herd immunity (via infection and/or the jab); or
Houston is sealed off from the rest of the world; or
Somehow, after two fricking years, you still don’t understand pandemics.

Not being familiar with the Houston area, I’ll defer identifying the accurate statement to you.

It just isn’t that bad. Very very few people are dying here. Hospitals are nowhere near overwhelmed. Houston is run by flaming liberals and even they’ve given up on trying to use hysteria to control people. Why should the Federal government be able to implement a vaccine mandate here?

Oh my, another instance of New York City doing everything except forcing people to get the vaccine.

After all, you could just starve. No biggie! It’s not like you’ll be punished or anything for refusing to get the shot.

I don’t know if this will hold up in a court of law, but it might.

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NYC Vaccine Mandate Blocked by Judge in Blow to Bill de Blasio (msn.com)
was already blocked lol

I have no reason to doubt you. But you’re forgetting the first rule of pandemic management: By the time it looks like you need to do something, it’s too late to do anything.

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I understand this sentiment and rule, but my question is: to what end?

When do you stop “doing something”? What’s the end goal?

When the pandemic no longer poses a significant public-health threat.

I’m going to question you one further
 When is it no longer a public health threat? What metric do you use to draw the line classifying it as a public health threat?

Yeah, if deaths, infections, hospitalizations are ALL declining are we to just assume that is the calm before the storm and impose mask mandates, vaccine mandates, and lock-downs? First rule of pandemic management and all.

There is an ensemble of public-health professionals–MDs; PhDs; healthcare economists; healthcare statisticians; virologists; etc–who have devoted their lives to answering this question. I for one lack the temerity to presume that my (relative) know-nothing self can answer it in a way worth considering, and thus will defer to the pros on this score. How about you?

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See my above comment.

Without a doubt I have no credentials or opinion of weight to make these decisions. The ensemble, as it were, are qualified to make these calls without question. The problem lies not with the medical professionals calling it a public health threat, but with the politicians acting upon it. Declaring something a public health threat is an obligation, but implementing legislation to “do something about it”, particularly when it directly impacts the freedoms of The People, is quite different. There are very different lines that need to be drawn.
Heart disease and obesity have been considered a public health threat for a while now, killing an average of 659,000 people per year in the US alone, but legislators haven’t taken anywhere near as much action to remove that public health threat.

I find it peculiar that the Covid death rate in the US (considering the advanced state of our medical system) is as high as it is. It has been posed that obesity + covid is the magical duo to make this virus as deadly as it is.