COVID-19 Vaccine Side Effects

I’ll do the ranting for you. I got into a taxi with a driver who was sneezing and sniffling and shit. Got flu symptoms the next day, didn’t believe it was covid because the incubation period was too short but I didn’t leave the house anyway. 3 days later the symptoms remained so I used an ART test kit and tested negative.

What is this R naught nonsense? Statistically I should have a 3-4x higher chance of getting covid than the flu.

*The last statement was a joke and I feel a little sad I feel the need to leave such disclaimers nowadays when it comes to this subject. Taxi drivers here are subject to mandatory covid testing every week or even twice a week I can’t remember.

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Pre-Covid, I would’ve said no thanks, next taxi. If I had to get in because of some important timing thing, I would’ve rolled down the window and breathed out the window as much as possible. Pre-Covid.

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But he was wearing a mask! And the symptoms from the delta strain for mild cases are now reportedly (which means I don’t fucking know for sure) so similar to the flu the government has said “fuck it” to mandatory temperature testing at shopping malls and other places and hundreds of people have lost their jobs.

And allowing covid to become endemic with increased reliance on ART kits means less mandatory PCR testing and quarantine, which means THOUSANDS have lost their jobs, and someone I hypothetically know who’s worked as a tester for the past year moved to the private sector - as in the real private sector as in an establishment that’s not reliant on the government contracts for sustainability - to do the same job (I SWEAR I’m not making this last part up LOLOLOL although I’m very sure they will reemploy most of the former soon because of Omicron).

Now I’m pro mandates because this is a thread about covid.

Lol at radical Supreme Court. Don’t believe everything you read in the news bro

This may not make sense to anyone but me…

Once they named the new variant omicron (ominous…) instead of omega (neutral), I stopped listening or caring.

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This will make even less sense. The FIRST thing I thought of when I read the name - and I’m being COMPLETELY HONEST here - was the old Transformers cartoon movie where Orson Welles did the voice for Unicron.

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EXACTLY my point LOL.

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Exactly the same here, lol.

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I can’t believe there’re other sick minds like mine LMAO!!!

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Washington requiring his army to be inoculated against smallpox, 1777.

The controlling SC decision dates from 1905 (Jacobson v. Massachusetts).

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I would imagine we can agree that enlisted folk are subject to different laws and regulations than standard citizens, no?

And that we weren’t even a freaking country yet.

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Based on these comments, it’s clear I’m not the only discussant who is not a lawyer.

The test is flawed, but the bottom of that libertarian spectrum = anarchism

Last time I took that test I deviated ever so slightly towards the right. On the libertarian/authoritarian spectrum I skewed towards libertarian, thought not nearly as far down the line as that of yourself.

Hugely. For instance:

“ Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races.” has nothing to do with politics.

“from each according to his ability, to each according to his need” is a fundamentally good idea.“ you can strongly agree with this(and I’d imagine that would be the leftmost answer) while totally opposing the use of force to make it happen.

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I’ll admit the race question was completely unwarranted and should have no value regarding the political spectrum. Also, i have no idea what this means

so :man_shrugging:
still, its’ worthwhile to know where one stands and i dont think there is a better resouce out there - despite its’ flaws.

What do you guys mean by these? I looked up the case on wiki because I’m lazy as fuck and even a couple of very recent ones used it as a precedent. There’s no mention of enlisted folk and this case was in 1905.

@doogie IIRC you have a legal education, right?

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Oh, you’re talking about the part about mandatory inoculations again smallpox in 1777 for the military. That shouldn’t be legally binding even if the US was a country unless US law is different. But Jacobson looks pretty sound to me.

Eye dentist was mentioning that George Washington ordered his troops to get vaccinated against smallpox in 1777, saying that precedent still applies to regular citizens 200 years later :roll_eyes:

I got no response about this, and I can only assume it’s because there is a severe lack of knowledge on the Uniform Code if Military Justice (UCMJ) by those claiming it somehow relates to citizens.

I dunno about military law overlapping with civilian law since this varies from country to country (e.g, over here if you commit a crime outside of military grounds as a military servant and get convicted and jailed, you will face similar penalties in a court marshal after you’ve served out your sentence. Which means if you get 3 years in a civilian prison, you will usually need to serve another 3 years in the detention barracks after you’re released lol.).

The UCMJ only applies to enlisted folk in the US. If you are enlisted and break a citizen’s law, you basically get double punishment, but under different terms in military court (they can literally hold you in confinement and assign bread and water rations if you violate the UCMJ on a ship). For obvious reasons, this does not apply to regular citizens

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