Except it does. Starting about 15 Sept 2021 when the share of hospitalizations are over 60 % for unvaccinated and 15 % for vaccinated; afterwards it is slightly over 50 % for unvaccinated and over 35 % for vaccinated. There is a huge portion with status unknown.
Lets be generous and say you are under 2 times more protected after vaccination from hospitalization. And I am generous. However you are more likely to die if vaccinated, rather than not vaccinated. The difference having vaccine or not and ending up death is almost not existent.
So what is the vaccine helping against here? Not ending in a hospital? I though it was going to stop the spread, immunize, completely make you protected of severe illness and not duying. It seems it does not do this. And that is for delta. We are still not looking into omricon data here. I am pretty sure they are useless against the new variant.
Hey but keep supporting Phizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca, J and J. They need our tax payer money. Meanwhile please give excuses to your government for being lazy and not having any solutions for 2 years beside lock downs, and mandates.
Yep, locking up Fauci and co for crimes against humanity sounds like a good start.
What about then making Phizer and the rest of the companies responsible for the vaccine injuries and deaths and every politician mandating vaccines responsible as well? Lets see how far mandates and extremely offensive sales strategies these companies take will go to.
I have some pretty easy solutions for a start.
Children - back to school - no any kind of mandates, let them build immunity. Young teachers and non-risk children back to school. Elder teachers and risk students - online studying.
Young work force back to work without mandates - let them build natural immunity. If there is a spike of cases, control with work from home where it is possible. And I mean real control.
Make real isolations in case of covid and real threatment protocols - antibodies, ivermekting, and etc
We can try mandating stuff like walking, running and other physical exercise - there are plenty of running apps available to track that or pedometers. Why not mandate outdoor 1 hour break with physical activities at work? I am pretty sure a person that is able to run 10km per week is not going to have hard covid due to healthy cardiovascular system.
Instead of giving free vaccines why not giving out vitamins - vit D, vit C, zink to the population. I will pay more taxes for this. It is proven that having no deficiencies on these helps with covid.
education on physical activities and exercise
curing/healing comorbidities connected with covid deaths
recruiting and paying more for medical staff - sanitarians. nurses, doctors (I will pay more taxes for that as well).
Mandatory immune system and health status testing from the JPs; educating the JPs in improving their patients general health and immune system
more testing - mandate companies to test workers once per week
all that in order to prevent elderly contacts with sick people in order to reduce death
vaccines for anyone who wants to risk their health for temporary protection
sue vaccines companies for faking research; hang Faucci as well
Iām already dead set on the fucking bubbles. Why are you proposing other things that actually makes sense?
Seriously, I agree with around 60% of what youāve proposed, especially mandatory testing for employees. I insist on them when we need to do things on-site that canāt be done remotely like filming stuff. ART test kits are getting cheaper and their sensitivity is still around 88%. More utilization of them is a no-brainer, even for people whom are going to any major events or visiting vulnerable relatives or friends even without any mandates.
I donāt want to get any exchange about the vaccines nor ivermectin. Letās not do that please? Itās already Sunday in my part of the world.
Because I really want to know:
What do you guys have against Fauci? Seriously. I canāt think of anything heās really done wrong.
As far as I am aware he went behind the backs of Obama and Trump and funded gain of function research. First of all this is a dangerous game and should be banned, because at least it can be weaponised.
Second the lab leak incompetence and the situation at the moment.
Third he went on for an year and still continues to cover his ass. We could have a better responce if we knew the virus and him as an expert telling us what the virus is. Instead he used the virus to become a media star and still lies in front of congress for his involvement in thr whole lab leak fiasco.
Lastly, non elected government employees should not have such power. And he should be made an example of. If I was an American citizen I would expect fully from the next president to lock Faucci for crimes against humanity.
Itās kind of like social exclusion, which I donāt necessarily agree with as I donāt believe anyone should be punished by the government for making questionable personal choices.
Example of punishment: garbagemen who have to get the COVID shot or risk having their six-figure paycheck + pension revoked with no opportunity to apply for unemployment.
They might not be forcing you to get the vaccine outright, but weāre dealing with semantics and wordplay here rather than addressing the core issue of the government being able to societally exclude unvaccinated individuals from working or having a social life. Weāre looking at it from a āglass half empty/glass half fullā perspective.
I wonder if theyāll ask for your two-dose vaccine card to gain entry into those newfangled safe injection sites down in East Harlem.
āSir, do you have your card? No? Iām sorry, but you canāt be in here. New rules. Youāll need to overdose on the sidewalk instead.ā
These measures create āclassesā or ācastesā IMO. No one is required to get vaccinated, but if you want to live a normal life - you do. That, to me, is intentional segregation.
Thereās always the argument āwell you can just move if you donāt like the rulesā but thatās just a way to justify the overreach. Moving is expensive AF and takes a lot of time - if you arenāt in a position to be able to move, then you are still stuck in a position where you either have to compromise your health, beliefs, or quality of life. Shit isnāt right.
The part that gets me is if Trump put any of these measures in place, there would be riots in the streets by all the people touting vaccine passports
I think Trump is a complete tool and I donāt think much better of Biden. But youāre right, this country in particular is so politically divided that no matter what reasonable beliefs you hold youāll be flamed by millions of people because they donāt precisely align with the left or right.
For one to truly be in the āmy body, my choiceā crowd, one would have to be okay with Govt not mandating anything related to abortion - AS WELL AS not mandating anything relating to vaccines.
Yet these two groups are unreasonably far apart in beliefs. Either are okay with govt overreach, so long as itsā their party doing the power grabbing.
