COVID-19 Vaccine Side Effects

Western Australia practically already has a "fortress’’ around their border

Can’t get in, can’t get out
… if you slip through the cracks and get caught (which you will because mass surveillance)… jail…

I’m actually on a flight out right now… plane has wifi

Fuck Australia…

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Ivermektin is safe, vaccines are not. I rather get a daily pill for an year to maintain high immunity than a drug that is proven to have massive side effects and to be as dangerous as Covid.

Also Ivermektin is a theraputhical drug mostly. So it is taken if you get Covid after a positive test. Unless you plan a nationwide short period consumption to use it as a preventitive, I dont think you will have ivermektin mandates.

Is it a misinterpretation? To me it sounds the Lancet research proves decreased general population immunity after vaccination, due to T cell damage. But hey, I am not a medical expert and cant read and coprehend medical data.

We have data. If Delta with 9 spike protein mutations provided under 50% protection, then I expect Omricon with over 30 mutations to completely dodge vaccine immunity. I expect very low protection under 10 percents for hospitalization and some to prevent death. You dont need medical research to apply some logic here.

It is a misinterpretation… and I never directly made this claim about you

So what causes then the decreased immunity?

If vaccines decreased immunity ICU’S would be filling up with vaccinated people (majority)

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oh you are catching on the ICUs now. The majority of hospitalizations seems to be vaccinated people though.

Give me statistics for 5 countries by vaxx status on cases, hospitalizations, ICU beds and deaths. I would like if possible UK, USA, Germany, Austria and Netherlands.

Thats right you wont find them.

After digging. I found info with absolute numbers for Switzerland.

Until Nov 28th the hospitalizations for 7 day average 57 percent of the hospitalizations are not vaccinated. Deaths are 37 % not vaccinated. For the past 2 month there are more vaccinated people duying than non vaccinated.

The vaccinated population is about 2/3. I mean vaccines obviously provide protection (sarcasm)

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https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/vaccination/status

Going by hospitalisation stat’s alone your claim isn’t true

For Australia the vast, vast, vast majority of ICU patients are unvaccinated.

Read this

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And eventually this will be the case

If you get to a point wherein 90-95% of the population is vaccinated… more hospitalisations may be within the vaccinated

An unvaccinated 18 year old is still in a far better place relative to a triple vaccinated 85 y/old

Seeing as there are medical exemptions for the covid ‘vaccine’, isn’t it possible that these people were already suffering from some condition that could have landed them in the hospital had they gotten the jab as well? or that they are already at a much higher likelihood of landing in the hospital via covid regardless?

My opinions aren’t a secret about this stuff, but i do think it’s worth considering that correlation =/= causation here as well.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Are the vaccinated being tested for COVID when they are dying from other causes? Are the unvaccinated?

No… when someone with covid in ICU dies from ARDS… it’s covid…

For everyone’s reference:

Safety and immunogenicity of seven COVID-19 vaccines as a third dose (booster) following two doses of ChAdOx1 nCov-19 or BNT162b2 in the UK (COV-BOOST): a blinded, multicentre, randomised, controlled, phase 2 trial - The Lancet

The conclusion is that in 6 of the seven combinations of initial + booster doses tested there was an increased immune response…

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Uh I made a mistake there. Hospitalization unvaxxed are slightly more, deaths vaxxed are slightly more.

No, no. Do not come with some newspaper chery picking stats. I want the whole story with raw numbers. No rates, raw fucking numbers or a percentage comparison for every significant statistical stuff that matter - cases, hospitalizations, ICU, deaths. The whole story. And if possible data for October and November.

You wont find it, no matter how much you search. There is no such data available by vaccination status with raw numbers or percentage comparison. Do you wonder why?

Is this a news even. Okay we know that after you vaccinate you get a short period immune responce to Delta. Some decent to Alfa. And 0, zero, nada to Omricon. It is logical you will get the same with a booster - some okay protection to Alfa, half of that or less to Delta, 0 to Omricon. The trade off is T cell damage which in the long run will make you less imune to Covid and other viruses. You may as well die the next time you get the flu or Covid :smiley: Keep anti boosting your immune system…

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence…

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Also, this is what I love about good conspiracy theories; counter evidence never changes the hypothesis.

The flat earth folks, “vaccines cause autism” folks, chem trail believers etc…can be shown evidence and they dig heels in harder.

Look, the response to the initial outbreak and “Two weeks to slow the spread” may have been a mistake and I think it got people believing the wrong thing off the bat and people got stuck there.
“The first thing the government tried didn’t work so why should anything else they try to push as useful work?” is the fallacy that many have fallen victim too.

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I posted evidence. Look for yourself.

Because the counter evidence says “80% of ICU beds are unvaccinated” only. I want to know the number of cases, the number of hospitalizations and the number of deaths. For example in a full stat Switzerland you can see there are more unvaccinated hospitalizations, while there are more vacced deaths in the past 2 months. Which may suggest that the older vaxxed population is duying, while the younger than them unvacced population is being hospitalized. The best case scenario is to get data by age groups and vax status. But you cant find this information as well.

And I do not care about rates. Because most calculations for rates are misleading. I have not looked into WHO descriptions for different rates they came up with, but I rather work absolute number and % share.

And please do not compare me with flath earthers and anti vaxxers. I am anti Covid vaccines only. Because the evidence is there, they are almost useless. But mostly I am against mandating them. You cant mandate shit on such a useless vaccine and call it a day.

How the hell are you reading the chart from Switzerland?

It clearly shows unvaccinated being hospitalized at a much higher rate. That is the entire point of the vaccine. One may still catch the virus but it lessens the symptoms and need to go to the hospital….

I am against this too whether they are effective or not. It’s major government overreach.

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It clearly shows that. I did say that. It also clearly shows in the past 2 months there are more vaxxed deaths than unvaxxed. It clearly shows that in the last 2 months the hospitalizations between vaxxed and unvaxxed is almost the same and trending in almost the same manner, going up.

It shows most people have vaccinated around Feb - May in Switzerland. And it clearly shows the vanning hospitalization protection as well. It clearly shows the vaccines are not working as promised. And you can not mandate shit on non working vaccines.

Except it doesn’t…

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