Counting The Bar?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
tora no’ shi wrote:
exactly the way i feel…

Professor X wrote:
Most people not trying to impress anyone simply count plates unless they are involved in a powerlifting meet, and that is simply for their own tracking of progress. I never even used the term, “405lbs” until I first explained it to someone else who wasn’t involved in my training at all. Other than that, it was simple, “4 plates a side”.

i have to disagree with the “most people” here. i think that most people, when asked how much they can bench press- as almost everyone that looks like they lift gets asked at some point, by somebody (more like by your friends, at every social gathering)…they definitely answer with the number than includes the bar.

it just makes sense. the bar weighs 45lbs, so do the plates- youre counting the plates, why not count the bar?

now, i guess what you meant by trying to “impress” people comes into play here. if my friends ask me how much i can bench press, i tell them the answer. ive known them long enough, been through enough, etc, etc- i dont care so much about trying to impress them.

in fact, if a girl asks how much i can lift in this or that, its kind of embarrassing, and then its necessary to make a conscious effort not to come off as a meathead.

I refuse to believe the level of comprehension on this site is so disturbingly low that this is still being argued. OBVIOUSLY IF SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE GYM ASKED HOW MUCH YOU BENCH THE ANSWER WOULD BE THE TOTAL WEIGHT INCLUDING THE BAR AND THE FUCKING PLATES.

I even wrote that in this thread yet it is still being argued against.

WHY?

Most people who ask that question are NOT the regular gym members who see you lifting the damn thing but random people on the street, most of which don’t even lift.

Not to mention that I specifically wrote my answer to most of them is, “I don’t bench” which leaves them dumbfounded.

Could at least another 30 people log on to argue against this just so I can be sure that all is lost when it comes to the existence of basic language skills and the lost ancient art of “common sense”.

If you are explaining how much you lift to someone NOT in a gym and NOT in some powerlifting meet, you are trying to impress them. Why? Because if they don’t lift regularly, the number means relatively nothing to them. They will simply say, “wow” at pretty much any number that comes out of your mouth as long as it weighs more than they do.

This entire discussion, again, simply shows those who aren’t all that developed. Someone who was wouldn’t be so caught up in the fact that someone counts plates when they lift.

The most ridiculous post has to be the guy who wrote he would think you were a waiter. Yes, if you were in a gym and someone said they were lifting 4 plates a side, your dumb ass would think “restaurant”. Thanks for sharing.

Dumbest thread of the year award, right here.[/quote]

Uh, you are kinda drifting into Alec Baldwin territory here X. Take a deep breath before you call someone a selfish little pig.

D

[quote]Dedicated wrote:

Uh, you are kinda drifting into Alec Baldwin territory here X. Take a deep breath before you call someone a selfish little pig.

D[/quote]

That only applies when speaking into an answering machine.

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
I guess if theres no such thing as stupid questions, then theres no such thing as stupid answers, or stupid arguments…
I bench 315.
That’s nothing, I bench 3 plates on each side…
what ho? I bench 3 quarters on each side plus 6 dimes on each side.
Beat that.
well I bench ya motha[/quote]

Its not about the numbers, its about being able to progress. Sometimes a greater load increase is too much stress and you don’t progress. I’d rather progress a small amount each week than not progress at all.

That being said I haven’t done the micro loading thing for about 4 years.

I just realised this thread is still going.

Why it progressed beyond 2 posts is beyond me…

[quote]Miserere wrote:
I just realised this thread is still going.

Why it progressed beyond 2 posts is beyond me…[/quote]

Remember when we were in grade school? How you couldn’t actually like the girl, because all the guys would pick on you to death? Well I think Andrew Dixon has a crush on the Professor and has to come heckle him in every thread because he can’t come outright with his crush.

[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
Miserere wrote:
I just realised this thread is still going.

Why it progressed beyond 2 posts is beyond me…

Remember when we were in grade school? How you couldn’t actually like the girl, because all the guys would pick on you to death? Well I think Andrew Dixon has a crush on the Professor and has to come heckle him in every thread because he can’t come outright with his crush.
[/quote]
Whats wrong with the discussion on micro loading?

The professor is always the first to heckle. He always throws the first insult. If you pulled your dick out of his ass you would be able to see that.

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[quote]Miserere wrote:
I just realised this thread is still going.

Why it progressed beyond 2 posts is beyond me…[/quote]

You count posts?

Incidentally, the people who count posts are the ones who make the least progress. They have been posting for years, but their post count remains the same. With clothes on, you can’t even guess that they post at all.

Most people not trying to impress anyone simply count pages. As soon as I am able to post often enough to fill a page, I add another one. There is no need to make this more complicated than it is.

By the way, do you count the initial post? I don’t. Reason being that I have always believed it to be a “counter-post” meaning that because there is no post before it, it doesn’t need to be counted.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

The most ridiculous post has to be the guy who wrote he would think you were a waiter. Yes, if you were in a gym and someone said they were lifting 4 plates a side, your dumb ass would think “restaurant”. Thanks for sharing.

[/quote]

It was a joke you dumb fuck. Sarcastically mocking the ridiculousness of this thread. Sarcasm - you should look it up.

Why don’t you just take a breath and calm down. Not everything that is said on this board that you don’t agree with is a direct challenge to you or your training approach and self ordained all emcompassing knowledge of all things bodybuilding.

Just because you shout often and loud it doesn’t make you right.

[quote]michael2507 wrote:
Miserere wrote:
I just realised this thread is still going.

Why it progressed beyond 2 posts is beyond me…

You count posts?

Incidentally, the people who count posts are the ones who make the least progress. They have been posting for years, but their post count remains the same. With clothes on, you can’t even guess that they post at all.

Most people not trying to impress anyone simply count pages. As soon as I am able to post often enough to fill a page, I add another one. There is no need to make this more complicated than it is.

By the way, do you count the initial post? I don’t. Reason being that I have always believed it to be a “counter-post” meaning that because there is no post before it, it doesn’t need to be counted.[/quote]

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[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
tube steak boogie.[/quote]

I second that.

[quote]michael2507 wrote:
You count posts?

Incidentally, the people who count posts are the ones who make the least progress. They have been posting for years, but their post count remains the same. With clothes on, you can’t even guess that they post at all.

Most people not trying to impress anyone simply count pages. As soon as I am able to post often enough to fill a page, I add another one. There is no need to make this more complicated than it is.

By the way, do you count the initial post? I don’t. Reason being that I have always believed it to be a “counter-post” meaning that because there is no post before it, it doesn’t need to be counted.[/quote]

I’m going to stop counting the first post, it’s clear that this is what’s holding back my progress.

[quote]malonetd wrote:
Lol, of course you count it. And future refernece, you count every bar as 45 pounds. Curl bars, cambered bars, thick bars, trap bars. Every bar weighs 45 pounds.[/quote]

Short (5-ft) Oly bars are about 32 lbs. Oly cambered (EZ) bars are ~33 lbs.

Regular straight bars are ~20 bs (if they’re solid metal).

The concrete-filled bar from your Sears weight set is 10 lbs. :wink:

[quote]michael2507 wrote:
Miserere wrote:
I just realised this thread is still going.

Why it progressed beyond 2 posts is beyond me…

You count posts?

Incidentally, the people who count posts are the ones who make the least progress. They have been posting for years, but their post count remains the same. With clothes on, you can’t even guess that they post at all.

Most people not trying to impress anyone simply count pages. As soon as I am able to post often enough to fill a page, I add another one. There is no need to make this more complicated than it is.

By the way, do you count the initial post? I don’t. Reason being that I have always believed it to be a “counter-post” meaning that because there is no post before it, it doesn’t need to be counted.[/quote]

Genius - comedy gold.

[quote]wings_931 wrote:
When you lift do you count the weight of the bar in on any of your lifts?

I dont. Reason being is that i have always believed it to be a “Counter- wieght” meaning that because it is spread so evenly that it doesn’t need to counted.

Do you include the bar on your numbers? and if so - how much does the bar YOU use weigh?[/quote]

Duh! Course you count the bar weight

[quote]Andrew Dixon wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
I guess if theres no such thing as stupid questions, then theres no such thing as stupid answers, or stupid arguments…
I bench 315.
That’s nothing, I bench 3 plates on each side…
what ho? I bench 3 quarters on each side plus 6 dimes on each side.
Beat that.
well I bench ya motha

Its not about the numbers, its about being able to progress. Sometimes a greater load increase is too much stress and you don’t progress. I’d rather progress a small amount each week than not progress at all.

That being said I haven’t done the micro loading thing for about 4 years. [/quote]

um… Ok…not sure what that has to do with my point, but it’s nice to know your progressing…Keep up the good work.

[quote]michael2507 wrote:
Miserere wrote:
I just realised this thread is still going.

Why it progressed beyond 2 posts is beyond me…

You count posts?

Incidentally, the people who count posts are the ones who make the least progress. They have been posting for years, but their post count remains the same. With clothes on, you can’t even guess that they post at all.

Most people not trying to impress anyone simply count pages. As soon as I am able to post often enough to fill a page, I add another one. There is no need to make this more complicated than it is.

By the way, do you count the initial post? I don’t. Reason being that I have always believed it to be a “counter-post” meaning that because there is no post before it, it doesn’t need to be counted.[/quote]

I love this website.

[quote]Der Candy wrote:
michael2507 wrote:
Miserere wrote:
I just realised this thread is still going.

Why it progressed beyond 2 posts is beyond me…

You count posts?

Incidentally, the people who count posts are the ones who make the least progress. They have been posting for years, but their post count remains the same. With clothes on, you can’t even guess that they post at all.

Most people not trying to impress anyone simply count pages. As soon as I am able to post often enough to fill a page, I add another one. There is no need to make this more complicated than it is.

By the way, do you count the initial post? I don’t. Reason being that I have always believed it to be a “counter-post” meaning that because there is no post before it, it doesn’t need to be counted.

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although this thread was funny to read… this really tied it all up nicely lol…