My “meat” could use some “head” just about now. If the OP is interested, of course.
With all due respect.
Thanks for chiming in, you dumb grunting belldropper.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Can you even begin to understand the massive amount of drugs that fall under the “steroid” umbrella, and the complex biochemistry they represent?
Seriously, many of the “meatheads” here in our own steroid forum have advanced science degrees, and your whole attitude, and approach, smacks of ridiculousness. Spend their money on you, or food instead of juice? Like they don’t ever eat, and subside only on anabolics.
I don’t know where your certification is from, but I can pretty well guarantee you don’t have even a quarter of the background some of the folks you’ve flippantly labeled as “meatheads” do when it comes to biochemistry and physiology.
Any BB who’s juicing with success (ie; built an impressive physique thru hard training, diet and use of AAS) is never in a million years going to need to “hire” a trainer like you. Stick to soccer moms…
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Because it simply needs to be done…
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[quote]Holden Caulfield wrote:
the first mistake you’re making is the assumption these people are even on steroids to begin with. have you asked them?
the second mistake is that you’re assuming these guys are spending ALL their money on steroids and not on food. are you sure you even know how bodybuilding works? are you aware of the amount of food and the types of calories one must take in to promote serious muscle growth?
sure they’re idiots out there who “rely” on gear but those are few and far between and are lost causes so dont concern yourself. plain and simple, gear is no alternative to hard work, intense training, and proper nutrition in the world of bodybuilding.
seems like you have a long way to go until you fully understand this because right now you sound like the media and every other outsider who believes that steroids are magic pills that make you grow while you sit on your ass and do nothing. le me tell you something…no such compound has been discovered.[/quote]
EXCELLENT POINT!!!
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alright, make it personal. I’ll explain - I just didnt think you all wanted my lifestory in order to answer a simple enough question.
I am fully qualified in nutrition (so yes, I do “specialize”) I have been awarded nutrition qualifications with Fitpro & FutureFit (nutrition Level 3 advanced advisor with behaviour of psychology change) and am accredited with CHEK nutrition & lifestyle coaching L2,
Lifecoaching level 3 and am a member of the Institute of Optimum Nutrition here in the UK. Personal Trainer Level 3 working towards the new level four.
I ALSO know that MOST the above papers are worth shit-all because a)theyre based on at best general information and at worst innaccurate information (- food pyramid anyone?!) and b)having a piece of paper does not mean you can DO anything or HELP anyone.
SO, to prove THAT - I have myself dropped from a 190lbs blob of a mess to a 100lb 10%bf “cardio bunny”. I have since gained 13lb of lean muscle within 1 year and am only halfway through my own transformation. I’m a huge fan of Bearadi and am currently enrolled in the Lean Eating Coaching Programme to improve my learning.
I’ve guest-featured in a newspaper column to conduct a male body composition challenge in our local city newspaper, turning a couch potato journo into a Men’s Health cover type guy (Still going! Doing well!).
So I know a little about what works and what doesnt, I’d say…
I’m NOT new to the fitness industy. and am even less new to nutrition and lifestyle coaching.
The gym I’m at? Tough break I know, its not ideal. But shoot a girl for trying?! Bad times. The MEATHEADS account for around 60% of the memberbase. There are 7 other PT’s targetting the studio bunnies with bosuballs.
Meatheads??? !Oh no she didnt! She said it again?! Yer I did. Like I said before, there is a difference between those who take this lifestyle SERIOUSLY, and those who seek constant short cuts in order to look good enough to pick up chicks younger than their daughters.
The money thing - I cover my bills by teaching classes (no, not aerobics 
circuits, ironman-style park group training, advanced spin and bodypump) and of COURSE I want to earn money as a PT but if it were all about cash why would I spend hours each week writing free articles and leaving them around?
The only thing that you’re all correct about, is that I know nothing about sports drugs. But hey, I kinda said that myself first post. Arent you all proud this was my first port of call?? …Dont answer that
Yes, I will now take on board ALL of your contructive comments. Yes, I will completely disregard all the pointless person-bashing and piss-taking (no, I dont own a shop, I work 65hrs a week I wouldnt have the time hun…although, nice idea!) and a big thanks to the five people who PM’d me real advice, 5 people too scared to reply to someone getting bashed in public for daring to learn
Get a grip here guys, its a learning forum not a “prove yourself” forum.
Ok! TTFN. And for those interested…I may start a log to document my next 13lb lean gain. I’ll let u know
Polish Rifle, do you have an abundance of resources featuring people failingto make yourself feel better? I love your av though, makes me laugh everytime. I’m afraid I wont fail. Bushidobadboy is unfortunately right - the “fitness” industry is stuck with me. (and thanks for the youthful comment :-D)
Yeah my original post was a bit rushed, I generally only get time online between 1 and 3am since I work all other hours, so I do admit to being more vague than I should have been.
Can I just re-iterate that I never once dissaproved of their use in EITHER a legitimate intelligent implementation OR a weekend-warrior nightly junk binge reigeime, like you all said, and like I said, I dont know enough about them to pass judgement - so I simply never did.
My intention was to find a chink in the armour to get these guys to OPEN THEIR MINDS to other, more natural methods of performance enhancement, to provide a more well rounded training approach. I know for a FACT that these guys eat pork pies for breakfast, McD’s lunch and drink beer for their dinner. I know this because a lot of them are big-fat, and I see the wrappers in their gymbags.
Dont u guys wanna be big, powerful and somewhat healthy enough to stay alive past 50? Enter: me.
Ok?
I gave you a succinct reply that should have been sufficient to correct your erroneous assumptions, but obviously there was no point.
[quote]beautifulfreak wrote:
Dont u guys wanna be big, powerful and somewhat healthy enough to stay alive past 50? Enter: me.
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See, this is why everyone thinks you’re a tool right now. You talk about wanting to learn more, and then go spouting the same type of garbage I’d hear on the Fox 10o’clock news…
Maybe before you go generalizing something, you should try and make sure it’s true before you try passing it off to people that DO know what they are talking about.
[quote]beautifulfreak wrote:
My intention was to find a chink in the armour to get these guys to OPEN THEIR MINDS to other, more natural methods of performance enhancement, to provide a more well rounded training approach.
I know for a FACT that these guys eat pork pies for breakfast, McD’s lunch and drink beer for their dinner. I know this because a lot of them are big-fat, and I see the wrappers in their gymbags.
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If you are not their PT how do you know?
Steroids do not give you a nutrition-out-of-jail-card. You have to be more serious than when not taking them.
Again you are only presenting emotional based “fluff” facts as if reciting from some bullshit dea flyer. Please inform yourself. Knowledge is power.
And burgers aren’t bad as long as you don’t eat the fries and other crap that come with them.
funmetal
I made no assumtions at all. Did I. fURTHERMORE, I appreciated your input and was not directing my defence towards you individually. Goodnight x
[quote]beautifulfreak wrote:
No natural method is as powerful as AAS. Its that simple. AAS is at a whole different level
That’s their own fault, not AAS’s fault
Intelligent use of AAS will not adversely affect your health.
No thanks.
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
beautifulfreak wrote:
Dont u guys wanna be big, powerful and somewhat healthy enough to stay alive past 50? Enter: me.
See, this is why everyone thinks you’re a tool right now. You talk about wanting to learn more, and then go spouting the same type of garbage I’d hear on the Fox 10o’clock news…
Maybe before you go generalizing something, you should try and make sure it’s true before you try passing it off to people that DO know what they are talking about.[/quote]
Word.
threewhitelights, I’m talking about cancer, CHD and other terminal diseases and the fact those fatalities are striking and killing during middle age more now due to shitty diets and bad lifestyles more than ever before…something nutritional coaching can certainly help prevent, and hey if it assists a PB in the gym or ad extra inch round the tape so much the better.
Did you think I meant sports drugs will kill you early gurenteed? I think you may have been generalising my responses.
I guess no-one cares for a person standing up for themselves, seems to me like no matter what I say you’ll be looking to tear it up. Likely you’re as bored of this as me now.
Sorry to have touched a nerve guys…seeya later.
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OP,
Well done for finding your way onto this site. Read, read and read more. Everything from Creasy & Robertson “pre/rehab” stuff to the drug and supplement forums. It is the best resource out there.
Rather than set yourself a self defeating task(no wonder my business failed, stupid meatheads!)be positive and set yourself the right goals.
Start by asking yourself the right questions.
Do you want to “convert” big guys to “your” way of training and validate yourself or do you want to make £?
Where is the market? In your current gym it may be 60% meathead but that still leaves a lot of fatties. In the rest of the world it’s 90% fatty and they are desperate for help.
I know that the tone of the message sounds harsh but I am trying to help.
Think, why would Usain Bolt devote himself to table tennis(and make very little) when he could sprint(and make tons)?
If you have dropped such a lot of weight in such a short time(and can show it) there will be people queuing up to giving you money, if you can give them hope that you can do the same with them.
You are wasting time and energy trying to make vegetarian lions. Guys(young ones especially!) want to be large and in charge and don’t give a flying f^ck in a rolling doughnut about tomorrow.
You say that there are already 7 trainers in the gym and sound intimidated by them. If you are honest about your transformation and have pics to prove it, a poster on the gym floor and in the Ladies’ changing room showing this in a positive and encouraging way will beat the hell out of Bosu ball idiocy and prime clients to train with you.
Don’t expect them to come to you but get out there, speak to members, book in every single new member for a “free” trial session with you and show them what you can do.
Even better,do a business course, leave the comfort zone of this gym, go to a national chain, work hard, learn from those around you, build your brand and then retire happy in the knowledge you’ve set your self an achievable goal and helped other people while your at it.
That will be £1000,
PM me for payment details.
Joking! It’s only £10. Sheesh!
BF, nobody will have an open mind to what you have to say, until YOU start having one yourself. Strongarm tactics will not work with most people. Usually, you will get the opposite of what you’re looking for.
You cannot educate someone if you’re not educated on what it is that they take and how it affects the body. You should find a way to work with them, instead of discounting something that you know nothing about. Obviously the guys you see are eating crap, and i’m sure they know they’re eating crap.
Damn, double post.
BF, hang out and learn form these guys. They’re a pretty knowledgeable group.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
The immediate problem is assuming that one can rapidly go from knowing nothing to being someone who will be respected on a given topic, so much so as to change the minds of people who do, probably, know something about the subject.
This is rather like me saying, “I know nothing about sculpture but I want to learn something so I can advise those sculptors how they ought to do better sorts of art.”
The more general problem is a misassumption that this is an either/or matter: that EITHER lifters use steroids OR they will care about nutrition.
This is a completely false assumption.[/quote]
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I gave you a succinct reply that should have been sufficient to correct your erroneous assumptions, but obviously there was no point.[/quote]
[quote]beautifulfreak wrote:
I made no assumtions at all. Did I. [/quote]
Actually, I now see that you made a third erroneous assumption:
Namely, that you are intelligent.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Actually, I now see that you made a third erroneous assumption:
Namely, that you are intelligent.
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Holy shit. HAHAHAHAHAHAA.
BF, you are everything that is wrong with the PT profession. You’re extremely judgmental, convinced that your way is the only way and tremendously ignorant.
Do your current gym’s members and yourself a favor: leave and get a job a large commercial gym with lots of bosu balls and ellipticals. I’m sure the soccer moms and out of shape 40 year old men would be interested in your articles and listen to your preaching.
Then, when you tell a client to stand on a bosu, lift one foot in the air and do alternating front raises with 5 lb pink dumbbells while whistling dixie to get rid of that muffin top, you’ll have that sense of ‘street cred’ that you want so badly.