Colon-Hydrotherapy

Unless you have had a colonic don’t comment. I know there is alott of macho bullshit that makes it seem faggy but its not.

All I can say is Ive had digestive problems for awhile, and colonics are a great help. Its very cleansing, you’ll feel lighter.

When I start to feel loagy, and kind of heavy I know its time for a colonic.

FYI, my hydrotherapist is hot! so ha!

Anyone who eats 7 to 8 meals a day of BB foods will have some less than desireable material in there.

I wonder if anyone who’s ripping on it would go try it, then COMMENT>

[quote]Shortest Straw wrote:
FYI, my hydrotherapist is hot! so ha!

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Dude, I had a realy hot girlfriend with an enema fetish too. Doesn’t mean that I let her get her jollies off of hosing me inside out.

It’s a bondage and discipline thing. You have no idea what you are subjecting yourself to.(or maybe you do)

Either way, there are no proven health benefits to the procedure.

[quote]Shortest Straw wrote:

FYI, my hydrotherapist is hot! so ha!

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I’m sure he is.

[quote]Shortest Straw wrote:
Unless you have had a colonic don’t comment.
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I haven’t had psychic surgery performed on me, but I can still tell you it’s bullshit.

For any one of a thousand ridiculous treatment, you’ll find idiots who’ll swear high and low that it cures them of every ailment you can think of.

That doesn’t mean the treatment is effective in a medical sense; there’s a reason for doing double-blind studies and discounting anecdotal evidence.

If colonics work for you, fine. You seem to have constipation issues; you might save money by upping your fiber intake and drinking more water.

Don’t go recommending a treatment based on faulty premises and that’s been shown time and again to offer no real benefit, except to the wallet of the practionner.

I initially read the thread title as “Colon-Hypertrophy”. I’m slightly disappointed now.

[quote]calvinist wrote:
You’re right, the impacted fecal matter clings to the intestines. This procedure removes it. In fact, EVERYBODY has at least a few pounds of impacted fecal matter. Pay now or pay later![/quote]

Why not just eat lots of fibre and get plently of water?

[quote]doogie wrote:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/gastro.html[/quote]

I thought this was a pretty good read except for this part:

Yet no license or training is required to operate a colonic-irrigation device

Not that I think this adds any legitimacy to the practice, but licensure and training are absolutley required in Florida (and, I assume, many other states):

http://www.doh.state.fl.us/mqa/massage/ma_lic_req.html#COLONIC%20IRRIGATION%20CERTIFICATION

Just wondering how an otherwise well-researched and bibliographed essay could contain such a glaring error.

Swerving way off topic, I’ve been through massage therapy school (incidentally, a prerequisite for becoming a colon therapist; not that I ever would) and although the school I went to was excellent, there were a few things that they taught that were not dissimilar to colon therpists’ claims that I would never propose to a client.

One of these was that massage “flushes out toxins”. I knew this was bullshit years before attending massage school, but it seems to be the industry’s mantra, and nothing you say seems to talk them out of it (with one small exception, see below).

Under this, the sub-heading of “flushing lactic acid” (via massage) to relieve muscle soreness/stiffness was put forth by one of my teachers. I corrected her on this, and she said she would “have to look into that”; I got an apology and a retraction in front of the class two days later. This led me to conclude that most practitioners in this industry aren’t con artists, but they do tend to parrott the same dogma they were taught without ever questioning it which, IMHO, is almost as bad.

If I’m giving a standard, one-hour relaxation massage, I never claim that it is anything more than what it is; relaxing. Got DOMS from a tough workout you did yesterday or the day before? Sorry, Charlie, but your muscles will likely be just as sore after a massage. If I could heal micro-tears in myofibril tissue just by touching someone, I’d market myself to pro sports teams and make a mint.

Of course, someone who is taught (at a nationally certified school, no less) that DOMS is caused by an evil chemical that saturates the muscles and can be squeezed out through massage will likely pass this bullshit on to their clientele. Better-informed persons get wind of this and throw the baby out with the bath water, thinking that all massage therapists are hucksters or New Age airheads (although, I’ll admit, I’ve met some of both in this business).

I guess what I’m trying to say is, like with all things, the answer lies somewhere in the middle. If you think a massage is worth the dough, great (call me?). Check out the therapist, get referrals, and if he/she makes any wacky health claims, haul ass and find someone else. Want your colon “cleansed”? Save yourself some cash; brew up a rich, steamy mug of Ex-Lax coacoa, lock the front door, and enjoy your weekend.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled enema.

[quote]Donut62 wrote:
I initially read the thread title as “Colon-Hypertrophy”. I’m slightly disappointed now.[/quote]

I thought that was what HGH was for.

[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Good stuff[/quote]

Just thought I’d say what a good and well-thought out post that was. Bravo!

[quote]Donut62 wrote:
I initially read the thread title as “Colon-Hypertrophy”. I’m slightly disappointed now.[/quote]

That’s the Brokeback thread.

Most posters in this thread seem to have the same attitude as me regarding water being shot up their rear end… it’s just not right (reminds me of an advert I saw on US tv about ‘anal whitening’… wtf?.. it’s just not right) Anyway, I digress, I have suffered from relentless headaches for many years and doctors had failed to alleviate my pain so I thought I’d try some remedies. One of my ideas was that maybe my gut wasn’t processing things properly and maybe that was leading to clogged up sinuses or in some way causing my headaches.

I decided to try colon cleansing but the hose up the butt just wasn’t going to happen. I found Oxycleanse pills and after reading the info decided to try them. http://www.ghchealth.com/oxy-powder.php?xref

I was concerned about side effects like severe bloating, stomach pains, cramping, etc but I have to say that I had zero side effects and to put it politely, things got moving, regularly.

Eating clean and taking these pills “felt” like I was processing my food properly. Even after I stopped taking them, my regularity of 2 or 3 times per day remained. I’m no doctor but I think if the food doesn’t stay in my gut then perhaps my body is processing effectively and efficiently.

Could all be a load of rubbish too.
All I’m saying is that the pills didn’t have any side effects for me, they cleaned me out and I can start and stop with the pills as I please.

Best of all, no one shoves anything where it doesn’t belong!
(And yes, there is something wrong with that.)

Why don’t you WRITE PAUL CHEK and rip on him?

I tell you if you haven’t had a colonic than dont comment. You probably are holding in so much shit that your anal retentive.

Paul chek wrote:

Almost every American older than 35 in this country has a defective digestive system. They’re going to have to eat even more protein to even break it down, because if it’s going out your butt, it’s not making it to your cells!

? I have young athletes come in all the time who are having chronic problems with gas, fatigue, lethargy, short term memory problems, skin problems, their sweat stinks… These are all indicators that their digestive systems aren’t working properly. Therefore, how much protein they need is relative to how healthy they are. I have to use predigested proteins in many cases because their digestive systems are so weak.

? We have a tremendous dehydration problem today. The only thing that substitutes for water is water. When you’re drinking water you’re actually drinking nature’s most powerful detoxification agent. The best solution for pollution is dilution. And that means water, not tea, not soda pop, not orange juice… water!

? Colonics can definitely help detox the body, but here’s the problem: a lot of people go get colonics, then keep eating the same crap that got them there in the first place. But there’s nothing wrong with colonics.

? I’ve recommended that many of my patients use home enemas. For example, a lot of the bodybuilders and athletes I’ve worked with have over-stimulated their bodies with ephedrine, caffeine, and other agents that accelerate and excite the sympathetic nervous system.

When you do that repeatedly it shuts down the parasympathetic nervous system, which is basically the digestion and elimination nervous system. So people get chronically constipated and they can’t poop. So when I start cleaning these people out, I actually have to re-educate their bowels to move.

I have to have them do enemas usually first thing in the morning, middle of the day, and sometimes at night. They’ve actually got to swell the colon up to trigger the stretch receptors to encourage it to push back and move the bowel. Essentially, you’re almost like potty training your colon again.

? The average human being should pass about twelve inches of well-formed, not foul smelling, fluffy, easy to pass, light brown, earthy-smelling stool per day, if you’ve got a normal bowel.

You can poop three four-inchers, two six-inchers, or one great big one; it doesn’t really matter. You should have a minimum of one really healthy bowel movement a day.

Right now the average American is having a bowel movement once every two to three days. The worst we’ve ever seen here at my institute is a patient who was having a bowel movement once every thirty days.

[quote]Donut62 wrote:
I initially read the thread title as “Colon-Hypertrophy”. I’m slightly disappointed now.[/quote]

You want colon hypertrophy? If you’re lactose intolerant:

SQUATS AND MILK!

:wink:

[quote]Shortest Straw wrote:
Why don’t you WRITE PAUL CHEK and rip on him?[/quote]

Why? Do I have to write to every one who thinks that sticking a hose up your ass is good for you? Why don’t you find me a controlled clinical study that shows benefits from colonics instead?

Well one of us is full of shit, but it’s not me.

<…lots of nice sounding crap about shit that hasn’t a shred of scientific support. Fluffy stools sound nice though.>

I don’t see what Paul Chek changes to what has been said previously. Poliquin can make training programs based on Chinese astrology, it’s doesn’t make astrology any more legit.

Paul also thinks that the knee of an Hindu is different from the knee of a Muslim or Christian. I’d really like to show him random knees and have him sort them by religion.

Who craps only once every 2 or 3 days?

I drop 3 or 4 loads a day and I don’t eat nearly as much as I used to.

If you are not crapping every day your diet sucks. Fix your diet, drink lots of water and don’t stick a hose up your ass.

I read the title too fast and thought it said “Colon-Hypertrophy”.

That would be interesting.

Oh, I see someone already said that.

[quote]Shortest Straw wrote:
Unless you have had a colonic don’t comment. I know there is alott of macho bullshit that makes it seem faggy but its not.

All I can say is Ive had digestive problems for awhile, and colonics are a great help. Its very cleansing, you’ll feel lighter.

When I start to feel loagy, and kind of heavy I know its time for a colonic.

FYI, my hydrotherapist is hot! so ha!

Anyone who eats 7 to 8 meals a day of BB foods will have some less than desireable material in there.

I wonder if anyone who’s ripping on it would go try it, then COMMENT>
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GREAT POINT!!! There’s ALOT, and I mean ALOT of ignorance on this site, and not just about this issue. This site has some of the worst advice I’ve seen. I guess I got what I deserve, BAD information.

[quote]pookie wrote:
Shortest Straw wrote:
Unless you have had a colonic don’t comment.

I haven’t had psychic surgery performed on me, but I can still tell you it’s bullshit.

For any one of a thousand ridiculous treatment, you’ll find idiots who’ll swear high and low that it cures them of every ailment you can think of.

That doesn’t mean the treatment is effective in a medical sense; there’s a reason for doing double-blind studies and discounting anecdotal evidence.

If colonics work for you, fine. You seem to have constipation issues; you might save money by upping your fiber intake and drinking more water.

Don’t go recommending a treatment based on faulty premises and that’s been shown time and again to offer no real benefit, except to the wallet of the practionner.

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Once again, terrible information. Do some research on things that you know nothing about so you don’t sound so ignorant.

[quote]calvinist wrote:
pookie wrote:
Shortest Straw wrote:
Unless you have had a colonic don’t comment.

I haven’t had psychic surgery performed on me, but I can still tell you it’s bullshit.

For any one of a thousand ridiculous treatment, you’ll find idiots who’ll swear high and low that it cures them of every ailment you can think of.

That doesn’t mean the treatment is effective in a medical sense; there’s a reason for doing double-blind studies and discounting anecdotal evidence.

If colonics work for you, fine. You seem to have constipation issues; you might save money by upping your fiber intake and drinking more water.

Don’t go recommending a treatment based on faulty premises and that’s been shown time and again to offer no real benefit, except to the wallet of the practionner.

Once again, terrible information. Do some research on things that you know nothing about so you don’t sound so ignorant.[/quote]

He has done his research. Our colons are not packed with shit.

Your repeating false information makes you seem ignorant on the subject matter.