[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Kai is big, but he doesn’t look bloated at all. he looks 10x more aesthetic than Ruhl, Wolf, Cutler, Ronnie or any of those guys. he’s almost as big as most of em but he just looks so much better
LOL at putting Wolf’s name in the same sentance as Ruhl and Cutler. And please explain what was unaesthetic about Ronnie between 99 and 03.
With guys like Victor Martinez, Jackson, Heath, and Freeman on the same stage how can you say that Kai Greene is the representation of aesthetics? He won the Arnold because he has a good combination of size and proportion. But he is not and will never be known for his aesthetics. He’s the new model of the mass freak.
when did i say anything about Ronnie circa 99? oh wait, i didnt. my quote is RIGHT there, dont put words in my mouth.
Kai is big AND aesthetic, that why people cant touch him. size is always going to be important in a bodybuilding show, its like 90% of the fucking point. Kai i proportioned, Kai is huge. Kai will win. Kai is nothing like a mass monster, to me that term implies just rediculously huge with no proportion, no definition, just big. Kovacs is a mass monster, Kai Greene is the future.
Wait are you seriously criticizing the aesthtics of 2 retired bodybuilders? If you aren’t talking about Ron in his prime then when are you talking about? When he got his pro card at 220 lbs? In his last O appearance with his left side half the size of his right? Compare apples to apples or this is pointless.
From 1999 to 2003 Ron was the definition of proportion and size. Your only argument can be that Kai hasn’t hit his prime yet. I would argue otherwise. Kai doesn’t have poor aesthetics but he certainly will not be remembered for them. He will be remembered for his size and great conditioning.
Why mention Kovacs? He’s just a random huge guy of no importance to a discussion about competative BBers at the top of the sport.
If Cutler (the biggest guy on stage last year) didnt win the O what makes you think that Kai (not the biggest or the most aesthetic in this years lineup) will win? Cutler won the Arnold a bunch of times. The judges there are different, Greene has no chance at the O.
i bet 50 internet points Kai places top 3, and that it will be higher than Cutler.
Ronnie didn’t only compete from 99-03 so i don’t know why you are so fixed on those years.
i brought up Kovacs as a reference to what a ‘mass monster’ actually is.
i’d like to keep this on topic but you really seem to lack comprehension, i mean you really couldn’t figure out why i brought up Kovacs when i said
“Kai is nothing like a mass monster, to me that term implies just rediculously huge with no proportion, no definition, just big. Kovacs is a mass monster…” ?
come on dude.[/quote]
You’re on
And based on your definition of mass monster it would seem as if someone fitting that description has never been on a elite bodybuilding stage. That was my point. Everyone at the elit level has a certain level of mass, shape, proportion and conditioning. I guess Ruhl is the closest thing to someone who did well in the sport without a good combo of the 4 categories.
Just for kicks here’s my prediction. Heath, Cutler, Jackson, Martinez, Arnold Schwareznegger
