Coach Knocks Down Player

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[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

The coaches name…My Dad lol! I stopped fucking around at practice after that. He did ask me to not tell my Mom…pussy.

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Good dads are always like that. I dont know if anyone has seen That 70s Show but my dad was just like Eric’s dad Red. And Ill be the same to my kid. Because when it comes down to it, 90%+ of the kids like this one is the parents fault. [/quote]

My son tells me I’m like Red in alot of ways. Same with the shit my Dad says book, I take it as a compliment.

I agree with you on the parents fault most times. A couple times when I worked with a co-workers kid in the summer and if he was a good worker I would find the Dad and compliment him on what a great job he’s doing raising a son who pulls his weight and doesen’t whine. The proud look on the Dad’s face made my day as well as his. I know I had a shit eating grin on my face when a co-worker of my sons said the same thing to me one day I was waiting in my car to pick him up from work. He also added that my son flirts like a mofo with all the girls at work too lol.

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Before I say anything else, I will say that the kid is a bit of a bitch for not even just manning up to the coach or even getting in his face for that matter. We are talking COLLEGE AGE men here.

But, on the converse:

  1. What would all you guys do if you were in the situation? Everyone seems to know what to do AFTER the fact.

  2. You’re calling the kid a pussy. When I watched the video the COACH was the one crying on camera “I can’t beeeelieeeve this is happening to meeee WAHHHH!”…? A coach who cares more about himself then his fucken shitty basketball team?

  3. I’ve had plenty of crazy coaches too, but some of this shit is comparing apples to oranges. I’ve ran 6 miles in a rain/snow mix until I couldn’t feel my face anymore, push-ups and mountain climbers in pools of mud whilst getting screamed at, it’s all good, we did good, it’s all part of the game. But thats still indirect.

Tell me how pushing a guy over, giving him a bloody nose and whatever wrist injury, and kickin his ass while he’s ON THE GROUND is gonna make him a better player. I wouldn’t have went to the cops at all but that doesn’t mean that the dumbass coach was right either.

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[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
Before I say anything else, I will say that the kid is a bit of a bitch for not even just manning up to the coach or even getting in his face for that matter. We are talking COLLEGE AGE men here.

But, on the converse:

  1. What would all you guys do if you were in the situation? Everyone seems to know what to do AFTER the fact.

  2. You’re calling the kid a pussy. When I watched the video the COACH was the one crying on camera “I can’t beeeelieeeve this is happening to meeee WAHHHH!”…? A coach who cares more about himself then his fucken shitty basketball team?

  3. I’ve had plenty of crazy coaches too, but some of this shit is comparing apples to oranges. I’ve ran 6 miles in a rain/snow mix until I couldn’t feel my face anymore, push-ups and mountain climbers in pools of mud whilst getting screamed at, it’s all good, we did good, it’s all part of the game. But thats still indirect.

Tell me how pushing a guy over, giving him a bloody nose and whatever wrist injury, and kickin his ass while he’s ON THE GROUND is gonna make him a better player. I wouldn’t have went to the cops at all but that doesn’t mean that the dumbass coach was right either.

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I absolutely agree with you. The coach handled it very foolishly and looked as much like a bitch as the kid…well other man. But I think what makes the kids case so worse is that he is actually pressing charges. Especially a freakin college kid. If I was in the kid’s situation, I would have continued practice and afterward, talk with the coach in private and making sure he knows that shit wont fly again.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I have been screaming this for a long time Professor X, we are a dying breed. The days of men being men are coming to an end. Guys like Dirty Harry, John Wayne, Charles Bronson, and Chuck Norris are being replaced with Justin Beiber.[/quote]

Yeah, Max, but every generation has had its “Beibers”.

Not replaced. Coexisting. [/quote]

i agree, does it seem like as generations go by there are more and more pussies? yeah, but thats because there are more and more people. I guarantee that there are more really fit/muscular/strong people now than there were 40 years ago, its just there are more little bitches as well keeping this ratio even. No humanity is not deteriorating, just as the extremes of powerlifting and bodybuilding are being pushed, so are the extremes of stagnation and obesity. [/quote]

Well said, Soundgarden. :wink:

Listen guys… we all come here and complain about the state of things. That’s normal. But isn’t being Alpha also being resilient, adaptive, optimistic, and relentless in the face of it all? This is the big reason I avoid the PWI forum. Tired of the whining and crying. So things aren’t as you like? Make changes where necessary. Continue in your pursuit of excellence and be the example for others to follow. I may not change the mind of that fat redneck down the street when he sees me in better shape than his 20 year old kid, but I sure may inspire his kid!

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I completely agree, i consider myself alpha because i constantly strive for something better. I never let myself be satisfied with “the norm” and i sure as hell would rather spend time on improving myself than griping and bitching about everyone else. They are invisible to me, the only people that matters are myself and the people i choose to surround myself with that have similar goals. Let everyone else be pussies, or out of shape, or sedentary. Those people will look back a year from now and realize that they havent really gone anywhere, theyve just gotten older. I would want the present day me to stand in awe of the person that i will be in a year, and so on.

I strive to be an ever-improving, consummate person. I pay no attention to those who do not

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
When we played Penn State in 1994, we lost 38-14. When the team got back to USC (it was an away game for us), the coaches made everyone suit up in full gear, and run the length of the field for each point we lost by. Needless to say, everyone was pretty gassed by the end of it. While we were running, he equipment manager put a Kotex in each guy’s locker, along with a note. The note said…

“If you plan to play like this, put this on your head instead of your helmet”

Fucking love John Robinson for that. [/quote]

I was at that game. That was the scariest PSU team I’ve ever seen. Later that year they put up 63 on a decent OSU team ( finished in the top 15 I think).
Paterno called off the dogs . It could have been 100.

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You know what really trobles me and is really the societal issue we should be talking about? “Zero tolerance”. This coach made a mistake in judgment. And he loses his job. Mistakes are the foundation of wisdom and learning. It’s the man who has not made a mistake that is the dangerous man. Most of us learn from our big fuck ups and we don’t repeat them. It’s a fucking shame he had to resign. And as for his posture on the media, that too is a fucking shame because he had to prostrate himself before the world if he ever wanted to coach anywhere again.

What a wonderful world we’d live in if the coach could have stood up and said, “this kid is soft. I did’t try to hurt him. Basketball is a contact sport and the fucking kid is supposed to be one of my bigs. I put him on his ass because he’s a soft lazy mothefucker that needs to toughen up. I’m sorry that he got hurt but if he dogs it in my drill tomorrow I’ll put him on his ass again.”

Instead, he’s fired (yes fired, they allowed him to resign).

Did he perhaps have a momentary lapse of judgment? Perhaps. We can debate that. Did he deserve to lose his job over it? No.

We could do with alot more wisdom and seeking solutions to difficult situations rather than leaning on the easy-out “zero tolerance” culture that pervades our society today.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
When we played Penn State in 1994, we lost 38-14. When the team got back to USC (it was an away game for us), the coaches made everyone suit up in full gear, and run the length of the field for each point we lost by. Needless to say, everyone was pretty gassed by the end of it. While we were running, he equipment manager put a Kotex in each guy’s locker, along with a note. The note said…

“If you plan to play like this, put this on your head instead of your helmet”

Fucking love John Robinson for that. [/quote]

I was at that game. That was the scariest PSU team I’ve ever seen. Later that year they put up 63 on a decent OSU team ( finished in the top 15 I think).
Paterno called off the dogs . It could have been 100.[/quote]

Believe me, we are glad you called off the dogs. That game had Kerri Collins and Kyle Brady, we were thinking “mercy” by the 4th quarter.

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HAHAHAHA Jesus my mom’s hit me harder than the coach hit this kid…and at no point in time was that statement fiction, all fact right there gentleman.

Kid’s a pussy, anyone that doesn’t think so, you’re a pussy to. There I said it, end thread lets go get some ice cream!

Oh and the “kick” def wasnt a kick, the coach wanted him to get the fuck out of the way to continue the drill. I like the coach’s attitude to be honest.

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The coach is clearly on carrotz and the creatine, while the kid in dire need of a set of balls.

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I just watched that video. Yeah, the kid is a pussy. The crying coach is a bit of a pussy too, but probably shouldn’t really be in much trouble for this.

One thing that struck me was the “expert” they called in to talk about it. F’in’ hell, when her face popped on the screen, all I could think was WTF. Then she went ahead and fulfilled all stereotypes and acted “the mother.” They really couldn’t find one actual college-level men’s coach to comment on the actions of another coach?

Bottom line for me was the coach might have gone a little too far…but only a little. In sports, things can get physical.

And I can’t believe the coach is getting flack for “the kick.” What happened to “I gave him a kick in the ass to get him going”? Now a motivational kick in the butt is a crime? WTF

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
You know what really trobles me and is really the societal issue we should be talking about? “Zero tolerance”. This coach made a mistake in judgment. And he loses his job. Mistakes are the foundation of wisdom and learning.
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Mistakes are also a great way to get canned

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[quote]Sarev0k wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
You know what really trobles me and is really the societal issue we should be talking about? “Zero tolerance”. This coach made a mistake in judgment. And he loses his job. Mistakes are the foundation of wisdom and learning.
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Mistakes are also a great way to get canned[/quote]

Uh, well…I guess you missed my point. They shouldn’t be. And the more I think of this “incident” the more I’m convinced it shouldn’t have been an “incident”.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
You know what really trobles me and is really the societal issue we should be talking about? “Zero tolerance”. This coach made a mistake in judgment. And he loses his job. Mistakes are the foundation of wisdom and learning. It’s the man who has not made a mistake that is the dangerous man. Most of us learn from our big fuck ups and we don’t repeat them. It’s a fucking shame he had to resign. And as for his posture on the media, that too is a fucking shame because he had to prostrate himself before the world if he ever wanted to coach anywhere again.

What a wonderful world we’d live in if the coach could have stood up and said, “this kid is soft. I did’t try to hurt him. Basketball is a contact sport and the fucking kid is supposed to be one of my bigs. I put him on his ass because he’s a soft lazy mothefucker that needs to toughen up. I’m sorry that he got hurt but if he dogs it in my drill tomorrow I’ll put him on his ass again.”

Instead, he’s fired (yes fired, they allowed him to resign).

Did he perhaps have a momentary lapse of judgment? Perhaps. We can debate that. Did he deserve to lose his job over it? No.

We could do with alot more wisdom and seeking solutions to difficult situations rather than leaning on the easy-out “zero tolerance” culture that pervades our society today.[/quote]

Amen.
Errors are made in the pursuit of greatness! ‘Zero Tolerance’ is a push toward mediocrity.

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So then we’re all in agreement that we’re going to fb this kid and ridicule him for being a pussy?

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Is there a history with this coach? Is there a history of this student wanting to be a victim?
Let’s face it, the coach’s career is threatened, but what career is it? Neither could communicate worth a shit.
It’s a division what, 5 school, an extended high school.
Does this deserve nat’l attention?

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I thought it was a division 2 school.

To be honest, besides it being on this forum, where I feel there are a reasonable bunch of people who see this incident for what it is…This really isn’t a good thing that this has gotten the attention it has. More people see this and more kids are going to start thinking they have the rights to call the shots at practice or in games. Kind of like it starts with “well coach pushed me to hard” and ends with “well coach made me run a lap when I was tired”