Christian Bale Rant on Set of Terminator

[quote]thesixteenth wrote:
slattimer wrote:

Precisely. If you did that at my company you would be fired on the spot, no questions asked. It is written directly in the HR policies that any violence, or threat of violence against another employee is grounds for immediate dismissal.

Awesome for you. Of course, you don’t work in entertainment. Anyone who has knows that this is par for the course, and repeated daily on sets, newsrooms, design offices, etc throughout the country. So he acted like a dick. Big deal, for all you know they all went out for a beer later. Entertainment is full of big personalities who are driven and passionate about what they do, and get paid to be raw and emotional.

So when a guy is raw and emotional on a set, no one is surprised. I hope Bale apologized, he’s an ass if he didn’t, but that type of personality is why you pay to watch movies with him and not the guy who became assistant manager of a grocery store.[/quote]

Apparently something like this isn’t a “daily” thing. They said on the radio the director sent the recording to the lawyers in case Bale walked out on the film and his contract. If he thought Bale was mad enough to quit filming, it was a pretty big deal. It also tells me they probably didn’t go out for beers afterward.

[quote]The Savage wrote:
For those who don’t have access via work:

Christian Bale: KICK YOUR FUCKING ASS!

Shane Hurlbut: Christian, Christian ?

Bale: I want you off the fucking set you prick!

Shane: Christian, I’m sorry.

Bale: No, don’t just be sorry, think for one fucking second. What the FUCK are you DOING ? Are you professional or not?

Shane: Yes I am.

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wow, tell me you found that somewhere and didnt just type it all out

[quote]Makavali wrote:
I thought it was hilarious. Some of you dipshits need to calm the fuck down and enjoy life more.

You’ll live longer.[/quote]

Quoted for truth.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
As others have mentioned, we’ve all flipped out before when somebody fucked up. It’s not a big deal. Everyone here has done exactly the same thing to someone else. Keep in mind we have no idea what the DP said back to him, he could have been cussing him out just as harshly.

It’s not nice, but it’s not evil, either.

You’ve flipped out for nearly four minutes, ranting and threatening and going on and on with flecks of spittle flying? I find that hard to believe. I like you too much to believe it.

Speaking only for myself I don’t judge it evil. I judge it obnoxious. Childish.[/quote]

I’ve never gone off that much, but I’ve certainly been irrationally pissed off and said things I shouldn’t have. Not for four minutes, perhaps, but I have, once or twice, nonetheless. Granted, I’m not given to such overt displays of emotion. Other people, such as my father, are.

Combine a bad day with someone else’s incompetence, or perceived incompetence, especially in a work situation, and you can get a good old-fashioned ripping of the proverbial new asshole. Is it childish? Not at all. I’ve never seen a child do something like that. I didn’t hear the others talking on the recording, but if the above transcript is accurate then I find their offense of taking so much shit like obsequious panderers much more upsetting than Bale’s.

And of course he’s obnoxious. If you or I made a career out of being pretty and photographed, we’d be obnoxious too. Hell, I’m already pretty obnoxious. It’s a perfectly understandable reaction. Expected even.

[quote]Vicomte wrote:
if the above transcript is accurate then I find their offense of taking so much shit like obsequious panderers much more upsetting than Bale’s.
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Excellent point! I must say I agree, looking back on it now. The lack of a correct response from the grip is probably the worst part of the whole thing.

The more I listen to the clip, the funnier it gets.

There are dozens of actors, better than Bale, that haven’t resorted to such childish behavior. That alone tells me that he doesn’t need to act like that.

DB

You guys don’t know what you are talking about, it wasn’t the first time the lighting guy screwed up, time is money in production on a grand scale. The director should have sacked him or removed him previously, and definetely should do it now. You don’t stuff around with production like that.

You also don’t know what Bale was under, prob. has had bugger all sleep, food, hot, in costume, already done severa takes, some dipswitch comes onto set and stuffs things up. and some asshole records it and puts it on the web.

yeah Bale should have handled it better - IF HE WAS A MANAGER - he isn’t, it isn’t his job to handle it nicely, he has to be in character.

in my experience this is a directors’ screw up

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I read earlier that this happened within a few days of being arrested for assaulting his mother & sister.

While it doesn’t excuse his behavior necessarily, it might put it in context.

[quote]Magarhe wrote:
You guys don’t know what you are talking about, it wasn’t the first time the lighting guy screwed up, time is money in production on a grand scale. The director should have sacked him or removed him previously, and definetely should do it now. You don’t stuff around with production like that.

You also don’t know what Bale was under, prob. has had bugger all sleep, food, hot, in costume, already done severa takes, some dipswitch comes onto set and stuffs things up. and some asshole records it and puts it on the web.

yeah Bale should have handled it better - IF HE WAS A MANAGER - he isn’t, it isn’t his job to handle it nicely, he has to be in character.

in my experience this is a directors’ screw up[/quote]

Nah, there’s still no justifying talking to someone like that and acting that way. I mean, the coward didn’t defend himself (if he had, it would be a real interesting recording), which is half the reason it makes Bale look so bad, but your justification fails.

[quote]Tyler23 wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I read earlier that this happened within a few days of being arrested for assaulting his mother & sister.

While it doesn’t excuse his behavior necessarily, it might put it in context.[/quote]

Yeah, while I don’t know any of those details, I def. see how that could have him wired (not justification, though). It may indicate a pattern, though… know what I mean?

Personally, I think that it was pretty over the top. Ranting like a spoiled bitch never looks good in my eyes, because it shows a lack of self control. Especially, for almost 4 minutes. In my line of work, I get paid to act with a certain degree of decorum and yelling isn’t something that I do very often, but, i’ve done it in certain occasions. Usually, if I need to make an impact…

BUT…

Christan Bale doesn’t get paid to be nice to anyone, he gets paid to act. From what i’ve heard, he’s a pretty intense guy and can be difficult, so, i’m sure that the producers know what they’re getting themselfs into when he’s hired. Also, he’s carrying a movie and it’s his ass that’s going to be scrutinized when the movie comes out.

I don’t think Bale was anywhere near as angry as he made out. I mean, if he genuinely lost it over the DoP’s ‘unprofessionalism’ (which, judging by the transcript, was just a matter of him fiddling around with the lighting off-camera during a take and stepping into Bale’s line of vision), then maintaining a transatlantic drawl would be the last thing on his mind.

Having said that, the fact that McG let his rants go unchecked suggests that Bale is calling the shots on set. Which may actually work out for the best.

[quote]patricio2626 wrote:
Magarhe wrote:
You guys don’t know what you are talking about, it wasn’t the first time the lighting guy screwed up, time is money in production on a grand scale. The director should have sacked him or removed him previously, and definetely should do it now. You don’t stuff around with production like that.

You also don’t know what Bale was under, prob. has had bugger all sleep, food, hot, in costume, already done severa takes, some dipswitch comes onto set and stuffs things up. and some asshole records it and puts it on the web.

yeah Bale should have handled it better - IF HE WAS A MANAGER - he isn’t, it isn’t his job to handle it nicely, he has to be in character.

in my experience this is a directors’ screw up

Nah, there’s still no justifying talking to someone like that and acting that way. I mean, the coward didn’t defend himself (if he had, it would be a real interesting recording), which is half the reason it makes Bale look so bad, but your justification fails.
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I would tend to think that if the guy got into it with Bale, then it would have definitely escalated and the guy could have been fired, or worse. I think that the guy was right in handling it the way he did, because it would have made him look even more unprofessional.

[quote]Magarhe wrote:
You guys don’t know what you are talking about, it wasn’t the first time the lighting guy screwed up, time is money in production on a grand scale. The director should have sacked him or removed him previously, and definetely should do it now. You don’t stuff around with production like that.

You also don’t know what Bale was under, prob. has had bugger all sleep, food, hot, in costume, already done severa takes, some dipswitch comes onto set and stuffs things up. and some asshole records it and puts it on the web.

yeah Bale should have handled it better - IF HE WAS A MANAGER - he isn’t, it isn’t his job to handle it nicely, he has to be in character.

in my experience this is a directors’ screw up[/quote]

It wasn’t Bale’s money being wasted, and you admit it wasn’t his job to correct the lighting guy.

Another great professional offended.

[quote]imhungry wrote:
patricio2626 wrote:
Magarhe wrote:
You guys don’t know what you are talking about, it wasn’t the first time the lighting guy screwed up, time is money in production on a grand scale. The director should have sacked him or removed him previously, and definetely should do it now. You don’t stuff around with production like that.

You also don’t know what Bale was under, prob. has had bugger all sleep, food, hot, in costume, already done severa takes, some dipswitch comes onto set and stuffs things up. and some asshole records it and puts it on the web.

yeah Bale should have handled it better - IF HE WAS A MANAGER - he isn’t, it isn’t his job to handle it nicely, he has to be in character.

in my experience this is a directors’ screw up

Nah, there’s still no justifying talking to someone like that and acting that way. I mean, the coward didn’t defend himself (if he had, it would be a real interesting recording), which is half the reason it makes Bale look so bad, but your justification fails.

I would tend to think that if the guy got into it with Bale, then it would have definitely escalated and the guy could have been fired, or worse. I think that the guy was right in handling it the way he did, because it would have made him look even more unprofessional.[/quote]

Well, people do place values on certain things, and I guess my value system places dignity/honor above current employment. I definitely would have liked to see the grip give it right back to him.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

Another great professional offended. [/quote]

Hah! That one was not surprising… hey, at least he didn’t brutally humiliate the guy by aiming insults at his person.

Haha. That reminds me of an incident about 9 years ago, when our customer had an issue with one of their stores and their manager called and cussed me out for 10minutes straight. I called my manager and she cussed him for 5 minutes and he asked me if we had a technician on the way, which we did and the customer said thank you and hung up.

If you know the reputation of the person you are working for or with, you better make sure you can take this kind of crap before you take the job. You are talking about a guy that almost starved himself to death for a movie role. Anyone that would do something like that for a movie, you can pretty much be assured they are anal-retentive.

Hey, check this one out, O’Reilly gets physical: