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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]
I feel like my man brain is attempting to have some sort of revelation regarding females and sex, but it can’t seem to grasp a world in which sex isn’t all about getting off.[/quote]

Women are not men.

Female sexuality is by its nature more passive, reactive and basically narcissistic.

You want to bust a nut, she wants to be desired and taken.

Hope this helps.

102

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.

103

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?

104

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on.

105

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]
I was the same way.

My opinion take it or leave it. Find someone that is fun to be with, again just my opinion, but you will spend more time talking and eating etc then fucking from the balcony.

106

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions.

107

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions. [/quote]
Actually hard to argue with this, BUT I had my white knight learning experience. How does that fit in O

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So Beth did you give it to him on the first date? Or were you able to have self control until second date?

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:
So Beth did you give it to him on the first date? Or were you able to have self control until second date?

[/quote]

We were friends for a awhile beforehand. It started out as him going through a divorce and me being bored and rebounding. I took him hunting with me cus his exwife never let him have guns around or hunt. We were walking thru the woods and I dropped my pants and said “do me”.

So it was my fault.

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[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:
So Beth did you give it to him on the first date? Or were you able to have self control until second date?

[/quote]

We were friends for a awhile beforehand. It started out as him going through a divorce and me being bored and rebounding. I took him hunting with me cus his exwife never let him have guns around or hunt. We were walking thru the woods and I dropped my pants and said “do me”.

So it was my fault. [/quote]

…let me find some more tissue.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions. [/quote]

Damn, you got it all figured out. So where do you fit in this paradigm?

112

[quote]orion wrote:

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions. [/quote]

113

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions. [/quote]
Actually hard to argue with this, BUT I had my white knight learning experience. How does that fit in O[/quote]

I am assuming that you refer to the first mother of one of your numerous children?

Well, I think we both can agree that teenagers and most early twenty guys and gals are basically idiots.

However, the problem arises because what makes a woman da sexay is youth and beauty whereas what makes a man da sexay is basically social dominance which takes time to develop.

The luxury you as a man have is time, you hit your peak between 35 to 40 and then you stay there for a long time.

Youth and beauty, fertility indicators that they are, peak at around 17-24.

Problem is, girls, like guys these age are mostly idiots at that age but their SMV is sky high.

They get a brief window of peak desirability and without a culture or the law to steer them they fuck up the sexual marketplace forever, because they establish the rules, they then later decry because they sooner or later inevitably loose the upper hand.

So yes, I agree with you, men need to learn a few things too, but we have a privilege women are not granted, we have time.

Women are like a young,succesful athlete these days, drunk with power, wasting it all on bling, not considering that the party can and will be very over soon.

114

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions. [/quote]
Actually hard to argue with this, BUT I had my white knight learning experience. How does that fit in O[/quote]

I am assuming that you refer to the first mother of one of your numerous children?

Well, I think we both can agree that teenagers and most early twenty guys and gals are basically idiots.

However, the problem arises because what makes a woman da sexay is youth and beauty whereas what makes a man da sexay is basically social dominance which takes time to develop.

The luxury you as a man have is time, you hit your peak between 35 to 40 and then you stay there for a long time.

Youth and beauty, fertility indicators that they are, peak at around 17-24.

Problem is, girls, like guys these age are mostly idiots at that age but their SMV is sky high.

They get a brief window of peak desirability and without a culture or the law to steer them they fuck up the sexual marketplace forever, because they establish the rules, they then later decry because they sooner or later inevitably loose the upper hand.

So yes, I agree with you, men need to learn a few things too, but we have a privilege women are not granted, we have time.

Women are like a young,succesful athlete these days, drunk with power, wasting it all on bling, not considering that the party can and will be very over soon.

[/quote]

So, like I’ve said before: Women are like lettuce, men are like wine?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions. [/quote]
Actually hard to argue with this, BUT I had my white knight learning experience. How does that fit in O[/quote]

I am assuming that you refer to the first mother of one of your numerous children?

Well, I think we both can agree that teenagers and most early twenty guys and gals are basically idiots.

However, the problem arises because what makes a woman da sexay is youth and beauty whereas what makes a man da sexay is basically social dominance which takes time to develop.

The luxury you as a man have is time, you hit your peak between 35 to 40 and then you stay there for a long time.

Youth and beauty, fertility indicators that they are, peak at around 17-24.

Problem is, girls, like guys these age are mostly idiots at that age but their SMV is sky high.

They get a brief window of peak desirability and without a culture or the law to steer them they fuck up the sexual marketplace forever, because they establish the rules, they then later decry because they sooner or later inevitably loose the upper hand.

So yes, I agree with you, men need to learn a few things too, but we have a privilege women are not granted, we have time.

Women are like a young,succesful athlete these days, drunk with power, wasting it all on bling, not considering that the party can and will be very over soon.

[/quote]
Lol I had two with my X then got fixed at 20.

I learned early.

Cant argue with this either.

I hit the grand slam with my wife now, still young, smart and beautiful. But she had been married and burned. Now I have a best friend and we are down to just one 17 year old at the house who works full time and is pretty good kid.

But at first when we met it was going to be bump uglies and move on. However I went against my natural instinct of she doesnt need me and worked my ass off to keep her.

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[quote]theBeth wrote:

So, like I’ve said before: Women are like lettuce, men are like wine?[/quote]

…when you do marry remember to ask for the honeymoon salad

lettuce alone.

Good luck Beth.

117

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions. [/quote]

Damn, you got it all figured out. So where do you fit in this paradigm?[/quote]

I am someone who would have been LTR and marriage material and has probably been ruined forever, at least regarding that capacity.

And yes, that I have figured out.

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[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
“everything but the sex sucked”

“I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I actually had an orgasm with him”

…lolwut?[/quote]

The sex was a kinky adrenalin rush. But as far as me getting off, I have to open up to someone for that and frankly, his personality turned me off. It’s a trust thing too. Intuitively I knew I couldn’t trust him. I shouldn’t have let it drag out like it did.

[/quote]

Honestly can’t see why anyone would even get that far with someone they can’t trust and whose personality turned them off.

And you were considering marriage?[/quote]
I wasn’t considering marriage. The who gun thing was fucked up and we never did clear that up.[/quote]
Okay Beth not to be a dick, like Chushin I am old and hard of understanding.

If you did not enjoy life with this guy other than bumping uglies, than why and the fuck did you stay that long? [/quote]

I was a dumb cunt and thought things would change or I could influence change - and because he kept saying, be patient with me I need some time.[/quote]
Fair enough.

Did you learn from this relationship? Or are you doomed to repeat?[/quote]

I learned. I’m not sure why I always do it the hard way. Most of all I learned a lot about myself and what I need to work on. [/quote]

Well, in the meantime, perfectly fine LTR or marriage material men are learning a lesson on their own.

You see, all that time “learning” about whatever, a lot of men are having a hard time while asswipes get drowned in poon.

It creates an emergent structure, due to millions of women having their “learning experiences” which can be summarized by the works of the great GBFM:

Alpha fux and Beta bux.

Meaning, while all the women are out their doing their “learning”, a lot of men learn that being a total asswipe gets you laid and that they have a very hard time paying full price for the leftovers they are so generously granted when women all magically have done their “learning” at around 28-30 and stampede in the direction of beta providers.

That has interesting longterm repercussions. [/quote]
Actually hard to argue with this, BUT I had my white knight learning experience. How does that fit in O[/quote]

I am assuming that you refer to the first mother of one of your numerous children?

Well, I think we both can agree that teenagers and most early twenty guys and gals are basically idiots.

However, the problem arises because what makes a woman da sexay is youth and beauty whereas what makes a man da sexay is basically social dominance which takes time to develop.

The luxury you as a man have is time, you hit your peak between 35 to 40 and then you stay there for a long time.

Youth and beauty, fertility indicators that they are, peak at around 17-24.

Problem is, girls, like guys these age are mostly idiots at that age but their SMV is sky high.

They get a brief window of peak desirability and without a culture or the law to steer them they fuck up the sexual marketplace forever, because they establish the rules, they then later decry because they sooner or later inevitably loose the upper hand.

So yes, I agree with you, men need to learn a few things too, but we have a privilege women are not granted, we have time.

Women are like a young,succesful athlete these days, drunk with power, wasting it all on bling, not considering that the party can and will be very over soon.

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So, like I’ve said before: Women are like lettuce, men are like wine?[/quote]

Well, the most common usage is women age like milk, men like wine, but I have uncorked some bottles…

Anyhow,yes.

Hard monogamy was a good way of dealing with this, it bundled the sex drives of young males with the need for stability and security of older women in a nice little package called marriage which nobody could weasel out of easily.

Kind of fair, over the long run.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:
I thought the entire point was getting your partner off…[/quote]

Nope

Foreplay is the entire point

and shoes, women love shoes and foreplay[/quote]

Oft times the shoes need to be part of the foreplay.[/quote]
For the love of all that is Holy yes sir[/quote]

I blame being handicapped by being on the iPhone and time constraints on not detailing foreplay and shoes in my original statement. It was assumed as part of getting her off.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Lol I had two with my X then got fixed at 20.

I learned early.
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I was a slow learner.