My cheat day was pretty tame…I ate when I was hungry, but ate the things I knew that I would miss…I had potato chips for a snack and for dinner a cheeseburger and potato salad…then more potato salad when I was hungry. Before bed, I had those swiss cheese crackers…man I love those. It was satisfying to know that when I was hungry I could eat what I wanted.
I started today on the actual diet, because I wanted my cheat day on a Saturday. So far so good and not too difficult to accomplish. The cardio is a killer guys!
I’ve done the calculations for my calorie needs with the calculator and I really don’t understand why the total of protein is that low. How can we preserve lbm while running that low in carbs in not even taking 1.5gr of protein/pound?? At always thought that the basic line while dieting was to take AT LEAST 1.5 gram/body pound and maybe 2.
I weight 185 lbs and I am around 18% bf…so it tells me I need 188 gr of protein for the low-carb week. Pretty weird is it??
It’s been a hell of a day for me. I’ve eaten everything in sight today. Frosted Flakes, donuts(oh how I love thee), pizza, czech food. It’s been a good day, but 2 cardio sessions tomorrow to help that first day of fat loss. I’m excited to see those ugly pictures turn awsome.
today has defintely been a pretty tame cheat day for me and that includes running a 10 mile race and playing a hockey game. In between i pounded down a protein bar, muffin, workoutshake, milkshake , french toast with syrup, strawberries and home fries. Homemade potato panckakes, some cookies. After the game i am workin a pb and j samwhihc, gatorade, slurrpy, a few pieces of chocolate, a pint of haagen daz and a cookie…lots of sweets and not much real food.
I agree though, i have been eating like shit for the last few weeks and its time…my body is sick of fast food and crap. I banged out some chicken boobs and tossed them the oven tonight and I am ready to run tommorrow. Good Luck all.
[quote]grimskunk wrote:
I’ve done the calculations for my calorie needs with the calculator and I really don’t understand why the total of protein is that low. How can we preserve lbm while running that low in carbs in not even taking 1.5gr of protein/pound?? At always thought that the basic line while dieting was to take AT LEAST 1.5 gram/body pound and maybe 2.
I weight 185 lbs and I am around 18% bf…so it tells me I need 188 gr of protein for the low-carb week. Pretty weird is it??
I was supposed to go out for dinner, but things didn’t go my way…I was looking forward to eating a whole plate of veal, pasta, bread, and a caesar salad.
I ended up settling for steak (settling, yeah) and a loaded salad (first time I’ve had bacon and whole cheddar in a while). The rest of the day’s meals included pizza–pepperoni, sausage, and meatball; waffles drenched with maple syrup; and a giant slurpee from 7-11. Yesterday I had pizza, grilled cheese, jerkey, peanut butter, cinnamon toast crunch, and buffalo chicken strips and chocolate icecream from Friendly’s. I didn’t really have enough time to get up to maintenance eating the rest of the week, so I made up for lost time this weekend.
Finally April 3rd has arrived. Weighed in this morning, and had my morning breakfast of 2 scoops Metabolic Drive, with 1 scoop of ground flaxseeds. Yum!!!
[quote]lap wrote:
I thought we are supposed to take Fishoil.[/quote]
It was a suggestion, not a requirement. Also- why are you not taking this anyway? Fish Oil of some sort (Flameout is best- why oh why are you still out of stock???) is beneficial 365 days a year, regardless if you are dieting.
[quote]grimskunk wrote:
I’ve done the calculations for my calorie needs with the calculator and I really don’t understand why the total of protein is that low. How can we preserve lbm while running that low in carbs in not even taking 1.5gr of protein/pound?? At always thought that the basic line while dieting was to take AT LEAST 1.5 gram/body pound and maybe 2.
I weight 185 lbs and I am around 18% bf…so it tells me I need 188 gr of protein for the low-carb week. Pretty weird is it??
Thanks for help[/quote]
I echo the “ask Joel” question, but I would imagine this is correct. 185 at 18%?? Are you like 5’8"?
1.5 or 2x body weight is really for bulking only, as far as I know. Anything more than 1.0x for dieting is not really necessary.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
lap wrote:
I thought we are supposed to take Fishoil.
It was a suggestion, not a requirement. Also- why are you not taking this anyway? Fish Oil of some sort (Flameout is best- why oh why are you still out of stock???) is beneficial 365 days a year, regardless if you are dieting.
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I take CLA, no reason for not taking Fishoil. Do you have suggestion on the amount that’s recommended?
1 gram per lb will do you just fine. You could always consume slightly extra (another 25 grams or so) and lessen your fat intake by ~10 grams if it’s a concern for you (although this would be more for piece of mind/mental benefit).
And again, the calorie calculations are a starting guideline; we can adjust this as needed (if needed) during the diet. But, let’s see what happens for a couple weeks first
Joel
[quote]JPBear wrote:
grimskunk wrote:
I’ve done the calculations for my calorie needs with the calculator and I really don’t understand why the total of protein is that low. How can we preserve lbm while running that low in carbs in not even taking 1.5gr of protein/pound?? At always thought that the basic line while dieting was to take AT LEAST 1.5 gram/body pound and maybe 2.
I weight 185 lbs and I am around 18% bf…so it tells me I need 188 gr of protein for the low-carb week. Pretty weird is it??
[quote]JPBear wrote:
grimskunk wrote:
I’ve done the calculations for my calorie needs with the calculator and I really don’t understand why the total of protein is that low. How can we preserve lbm while running that low in carbs in not even taking 1.5gr of protein/pound?? At always thought that the basic line while dieting was to take AT LEAST 1.5 gram/body pound and maybe 2.
I weight 185 lbs and I am around 18% bf…so it tells me I need 188 gr of protein for the low-carb week. Pretty weird is it??
Thanks for help
I think I would probably ask Joel.
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Also note that @ 185 and 18%, your supporting a lean body mass of about 152 lbs, so it’s considerably over 1g per lb of LBM (which is what you are trying to maintain, the lean body mass, not the fat mass).
[quote]Joel Marion wrote:
1 gram per lb will do you just fine. You could always consume slightly extra (another 25 grams or so) and lessen your fat intake by ~10 grams if it’s a concern for you (although this would be more for piece of mind/mental benefit).
And again, the calorie calculations are a starting guideline; we can adjust this as needed (if needed) during the diet. But, let’s see what happens for a couple weeks first
Joel
JPBear wrote:
grimskunk wrote:
I’ve done the calculations for my calorie needs with the calculator and I really don’t understand why the total of protein is that low. How can we preserve lbm while running that low in carbs in not even taking 1.5gr of protein/pound?? At always thought that the basic line while dieting was to take AT LEAST 1.5 gram/body pound and maybe 2.
I weight 185 lbs and I am around 18% bf…so it tells me I need 188 gr of protein for the low-carb week. Pretty weird is it??
Thanks for help
I think I would probably ask Joel.
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This makes me feel ALOT better. I was worried that i would have a hard time taking in so little protein since i have it with every meal. Especially with the recomendation for Surge.
[quote]lap wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
lap wrote:
I thought we are supposed to take Fishoil.
It was a suggestion, not a requirement. Also- why are you not taking this anyway? Fish Oil of some sort (Flameout is best- why oh why are you still out of stock???) is beneficial 365 days a year, regardless if you are dieting.
I take CLA, no reason for not taking Fishoil. Do you have suggestion on the amount that’s recommended?
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About 3 grams of combined EPA/DHA per day is fine, so that’s about 10 caps of the normal potency stuff. If using Flameout, just the 4 recommended caps.
Does anyone know if the Metabolic Drive bars (PB for example) are considered to be high or low GI/GL carbs? I’m guessing the sweetners used are low, but I can’t tell.
