This is something I’ve been seriously pondering for a whole week now. When most of us started studying physical culture we all probably came across some sort of literature describing the “ceiling effect” in which you cannot honestly make any more gains. While this seems to be a prevalent topic in mainstream literature I have yet to come across it in underground circles. Furthermore I can’t think of a good example of anyone ever reaching the ‘ceiling’;pro-athlete or weekend warrior. As we all know most gym rats train well below their genetic potential and so while in their minds they may only be able to achieve a certain level of fitness, we know that with proper training and nutrion anyone can continue to make gains. Many lifters claim that when their gains seem to slow down or stop altogether they start juicing. Yet I can’t help but think that if they just pushed a bit harder or branched out into other training philosophies they might have continued to make gains. Look at some of the fitness greats who are in their 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s- they all seem to be still making gains even though they may not be gaining muscle, but strength seems to be improving. Personally I don’t believe the ceiling effect exists. I think with sound training and nutrition knowledge a person can make gains indefinately till they drop dead-with or without steroids. Does anyone else agree with me or am I just being idealistic and humanistic? Am I missing what researchers meant when they first came across the ceiling effect? Please comeent and let me know what you think. Personally-I think alot of training limitations other people worry about don’t apply to t-men/t-women.