Carb Cycling and Confusion

Training Bodybuilding
1

Hey guys… what’s up?

I am a 31 year old 170lbs male… 5’11… based on the carb cycling formula… These are my ‘Moderate day’ numbers:

Gaining:
Protein(g) Carbs(g) Fat(g)
254 254 158

Losing:
Protein(g) Carbs(g) Fat(g)
254 212 49

Does this seem right? The fat seems kinda high on the gaining days… but I guess not…

Also… it said:

The ideal time to train is around 10:00am. This gives us the following eating schedule:

Meal 1 (upon waking up): Carbs + protein meal

Meal 2 (post-workout, around 11:00): Carbs + protein recovery drink (Surge)

Meal 3 (12:30): Carbs + protein meal

Meal 4 (15:30): Protein, fat, and green veggies

Meal 5 (18:00): Protein, fat, and green veggies

Meal 6 (21:00): Protein, fat, and green veggies

Obviously, not everybody can train at this time. For those who have to train in the evening (around 5:00 or 6:00pm), the following schedule is appropriate:

Meal 1 (upon waking up): Carbs + protein meal

Meal 2 (10:00) Carbs, protein, and green veggies

Meal 3 (12:30): Protein, fat, and green veggies

Meal 4 (15:30): Protein, fat, and green veggies

Meal 5 (Post-workout, around 18:00): Protein and carb drink

Meal 6 (21:00): Carbs + protein meal

Finally, those who have to train in the morning (around 8:00am) should use the following schedule:

Meal 1 (upon waking up): Carbs + protein meal drink

Meal 2 (post-workout, around 9:00): Carbs + protein recovery drink (Surge)

Meal 3 (12:30): Carbs + protein meal

Meal 4 (15:30): Protein, fat, and green veggies

Meal 5 (18:00): Protein, fat, and green veggies

Meal 6 (21:00): Protein, fat, and green veggies

Now based on that… they ALL look like 3 protein/fat meals and 3 Protein/Carb meals… EXCEPT if you train in the evening… in THIS case… there are 4 and 2 (in favor of carb days…) How would you arrange the carb intake around 4 x a day?

Thanks…

2

From a spreadsheet I constructed I reckon your numbers should be:

Gaining @110%: 254g protein, 254g carbs, 128g fat
Losing @80%: same as you have above.

I think you are over worrying it, do you really think it makes THAT big a difference what time of day you train or if you just eat all your carbs in three or four meals? At 5’11" and 170lbs what are you hoping to achieve with carb cycling, you cannot have much fat on your body!

3

See I thought the fat seemed high… weird…

Ummm… naw… I’m about 9% or so… So I’m pretty lean… I’m kind of a numbers guy… and figured I’d follow something that would (potentially) allow me to gain lean mass, while keeping the bf% at bay… Truth be told, I’m not too too worried about the fat gain… I just found it weird that my spreadsheet numbers came up wrong… can I ask you to post yer formula up real quick so I could see where I went wrong??

I kind of do think it matters when you eat the carbs… as it is part of the ‘essence’ of the program… You want to space your carb intake appropriately, and not eat them too close to bed time etc…

4

Ok… I did it @ 120% rather then 110… so:

=66+(13.777)+(5178)-(6.8*31) = 1800

Activity Level = 1.6

So BMR x AL = 2880 KCal

To gain… I did it * 20% = 3456 KCal

My BF is 170… so that’s:

255 P 255 C which is = 2040Kcal… if I have 3456 cals total… I have 1416 fat calories difference… which is 157calories of fat… no?

5

Anyone else?

6

You’re right, eat the fat. Fat isn’t bad, get over it.

You know that 8 oz of beef has at least 20g of fat. Add a serving of almonds and you have 20 more. that’s 40 for a meal. 4 of those meals, and you have 160g, problem solved.

7

Ya… that’s what I figure… that… with whole eggs, and Udo’s oil…

This should be good… I’m excited…