[quote]Its All U wrote:
Tech9 wrote:
To Its All U
Well said and an excellent post.
Thanks[/quote]
IT WAS A VERY LONG POST…but excellent.
I agree with 99% of it.
Most extroverts I know are fucking annoying. They always feel the need to speak every fucking thought that comes into their mind, and most find the reserved, quiet people such as myself “creepy”.Fuck off.
You see it in the classroom setting especially. Loudmouths who either A) are cl(ass) clowns or B) are these pseudo-intellectual types that constantly voice their bullshit opinions on politics, economics, literature, etc.
That being said, the world would be a lonely place without them, and not all extroverts are douchebags. However, most douchebags are extroverts(something to think about).
K i dunno wdf i am. I love Ahzaz-time, and i love to socialize. I guess im an introextrovert.
I’m quite introverted but–amongst introverts, who I generally associate with, I’m a bit of an extrovert. That’s right where I’m comfortable.
The only other way for me to be an extrovert is to consume massive amounts of alcohol and that is not a great long term plan.
Actually is does depend a lot on the crowd I’m in. I’m very reserved and quiet when even one person in a group is new to me but once I get to know them I warm up a bit. But never full out extrovert (sans whiskey)
It is a good thing I have to go to work because if left to my own devices I’d never leave my house. It is a good thing I am forced to socialize IMO.
It so happens I chose a profession that is known for its introverts but in reality forces us to interact, argue and socialize all day long, but at least mostly with other introverts. When a marketing or HR person comes along it gets real awkward and quiet.
I get really depressed when I don’t socialize, but at the same time, I find socializing exhausting. I have to do a lot of presentations, as well as meet constantly new people this semester, and on those days, I can’t even workout. When I get home, I go to sleep. It’s a pretty messed up situation.
[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
None taken. To each his own for sure.
And yes, non frat guys did bang plenty of sorority women. Frat guys banged lots of non sorority women as well.
I do see where the cliquish image comes from but think that is one of the downfalls of fraternities. As I mentioned, there are some undeniably gay aspects to the greek life.
people who join a frat to be in one, plaster stickers all over their cars, get tats, t-shirts and hats and wear them all at the same time every day are certainly gay and most likely their own fraternity agrees and regrets bidding on them.
Some of my closest college buds were my frat “brothers”, especially my big brother and most of my pledge class.
I made good friends unaffiliated with the greek scene too. I went to plenty of non frat parties though I must say they really didn’t cut the mustard.
I think most guys in frats do their own thing really. Sure they go to meetings, are paying dues to a group etc, but we eat when we want, sleep when we want, fuck who we want, hang out where we want etc just like anybody else.
With the perks of kick ass parties, test key answersheets, free rent if you can handle the environment, first dibs at frosh bitches and a pool of sorority girls who may fuck others but def. keep it greek and frequently too.
Solid answer…
It’s good to know there can be civil debate on here from time to time.
My buddies were ATO, which was essentially the “Jock Fraternity” on campus. I went to the vast majority of their parties and was welcome to come and go in the house as I saw fit.
I enjoyed the perks without having to be a member. By perks, I mean women… Lots of glorious women.
Oh, being an extrovert helped along the way as well. Still does almost 17 years later.
Funny how we’re both in sales…
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Of course there can be a civil debate here. You will find I’m usually the one flamed for an opinion though I don’t typically spend time figuring out a tactful way to say something, especially online. Then I respond in similar fashion and it gets kind of fun. There are a handful of people who instantly start off with stupid shit like “money shot” and we typically won’t have a real convo. Lots of flaming back and forth in that case which I must say is kind of fun. Like a smart ass duel.
Yeah, it is funny how we are both in sales. People energize me and I’m successful with people. I can win friends as easily as I can alienate people which makes sales and office politics easy for me.
There is a lot to be said for personality types imo. We most likely have similar personalities even if we show them differently and while some changes can occur, it’s best to go with the flow and develop your own natural talents. Sales seems like a perfect fit for me.
[quote]Its All U wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
Its All U wrote:
If you are the kind of person who is capable of being a true friend to someone. Then life will throw one in your path. Somewhere there is someone wanting to meet up with you. It will just happen out of nowhere. You will see.
Life doesn’t throw shit in your path. You make your path, big or small, and go with it. Of course there are some exceptions when we get lucky but just waiting for the world to give you crap will not take you anywhere.
Keep to yourself and you’ll have a smaller pool of people and opportunities to choose from than some one who goes out, meets people and builds relationships. Not necessarily true friends but relationships none the less.
I find it unlikely you found your wife, job or the friends you have by sitting in your house.
You went out and made contacts that eventually led to a job, a wife and friends.
Even if you didn’t directly go looking for a wife, you met her somewhere and that contact evolved in to what it is, same as a job lead.
The universe or world what ever you mentioned didn’t deliver shit to your couch.
I agree there is a difference in friends and associates. I would say I too have a handful of friends that I would really trust no matter what. I think that is the same for most people, introverts and extroverts.
I grew up with these guys since kindergarden. In the houston burbs, lots of families come and go due to the oil industry which requires workers, from the bottom up, to be fairly mobile as new projects open world wide and need to be managed and worked.
Lots of kids came and went but a few of us stayed in the neighborhood from k-12. We sort of formed a core group and had other friends who moved in hang out until they moved again.
These people will be my lifetime friends. I know I can count on them.
I tend to have a lot of associates too however. And buddies. As irish mentioned, I was in a fraternity. I was also the prez of my university’s American Marketing Association chapter who was active on campus and networked with professional chapters here in Texas.
I met lots of people, some I liked and some I didn’t in both groups, in classes and now at networking events.
I balance these people, the ones I don’t like included, because they potentially can help me in some way or I can help them or someone they know, leading to them owing me favors at some point.
It’s called networking and if you are good at it, as most extroverts are, you can pave your own road in the world with choices rather than having one option “delivered” to you and calling it god’s gift or the universe plan or what ever. It’s slim pickings to be accurate.
And don’t you worry about my posts with Irish. While this is a public forum for anyone to read, he says some wacky shit in another forum on this site and we go around from time to time. He follows me to see my face and loves my attention, even if he gets it through negativity. Like a school boy harassing girls except he’s gay. And older.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Another night on the road for me so, back at ya
You and I are in two different places in life. You are younger, still full of piss and vinegar and charging straight forward with both heads. You are at the start of your working life and want to kick some ass and make progress. All good stuff.
Me I have already done it. I have already exceeded my income goals, sales goals, management goals, etc. I have had a smorgosborg of pussy from around the world from my Navy days.
I worked out like a fiend in my teens and through my 20’s. There are things I can do and things I can’t. I am mature enough to admit it now. For one I will not be a competitive body builder. My hard coreness stops far short of that.
You seem like a sharp enough guy, so I wont try to tell you that you got it all wrong. Because you don’t, it is just a matter of perspective. I don’t disagree with many of your points.
I do disagree with your point of view on life though.
While I don’t promote just waiting for shit to happen, shit none the less will happen.
For instance (and there are many more)
I took in my brother in laws 3 kids when he and his wife went to prison for 7 years. I also have given my wifes elderly aunt a place to live, free of charge.
So including my own 2 kids and wife now I have 8 people who live in my house and sit on my couch. Lucky for me I have a pretty big house. 3500 sg ft and now 5 bedrooms. Had to kiss my garage good bye. 5 acres of fenced in yard, with an electronic access gate, for them to roam around in as well. Horses, dogs, shoes and bicycles abound.
My wifes Aunt just happens to be a clean freak who loves to cook and clean. Comes in handy with all the kids.
This was not a planned event, I didn’t make this happen. But it is a signifigant part of my life and theirs now. From their point of view they did nothing to make any of this happen either. As far as they are concerned life, the universe, an answered prayer, or luck landed them a place to live.
And a loving caring environment to grow up in. They are so much better off than they would be with their meth addicted parents, whose main goals in life were to party, have sex, and get high. A very lucky turn of events for these kids who otherwise would be on the same sorry road to being a waste of a human being.
The point I am trying to make is that life is ever changing and you don’t know for sure what will happen. When you can see from this point of view, you can see that life is actually sending you stuff all the time.
It’s how you react to it that makes an opportunity either lost or found. Now I have the big family I always wanted. My wife put a stop to the brady bunch plan. So I thought that was a done deal. But looky what happened.
Childhood friends, a lot of mine have died, lost track of some, cant stand what some have become.
I actually did actively go looking for a wife. Got out of the military to start a family. Only took 2 weeks to find her.
My best friends little sister grew up to be a hottie. She was exactly what I was looking for, same back ground, knew her family, wanted the same things in life. She was 21, single and looking for a husband. Cosmic
And I have noticed when I want a new dog or a cat one will find me pretty fast. And when I am lucky, life will send me a new friend as well. Got one (online) yesterday as a matter of fact.
Irish is big enough to take care of himself. Right?
If some of this is stupid don’t flame me. I’m just going to hit the send button.
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I see where you are coming from, and yes I suppose some opportunities fall on your lap.
To me, and with age as a guide I am less experienced in general, I feel I have a decent grasp on how things work, based on what I have accomplished at my age. (most account execs I mingle with at functions are at least 10 years older than me) and it is my belief that while some things may find me, waiting for it to happen is just asking for slim pickings.
I’ll take what I find and create more opportunities through effort and networking personally. The more the merrier and I’ll bend luck to work in my favor. And when the unexpected starts happening to me, I too will deal with it as positively as I can and will hopefully be able to draw from a large support system in a network I built.
Your house sounds nice. I love my condo in the middle of the city for now but hope to have the big house on a huge lot at some point too. And sales did it for you huh?
[quote]abcd1234 wrote:
Most extroverts I know are fucking annoying. They always feel the need to speak every fucking thought that comes into their mind, and most find the reserved, quiet people such as myself “creepy”.Fuck off.
You see it in the classroom setting especially. Loudmouths who either A) are cl(ass) clowns or B) are these pseudo-intellectual types that constantly voice their bullshit opinions on politics, economics, literature, etc.
That being said, the world would be a lonely place without them, and not all extroverts are douchebags. However, most douchebags are extroverts(something to think about). [/quote]
Be thankful we’re there to break the silence created by social dipshits like yourself.
OP, in the scientific community, it’s pretty well-accepted that extroversion is genetically-based, not likely to change signficantly over one’s lifetime, and most prob rooted in neurobiology. (arousability and neuroticism also share similar heritability)
Kagan, Annual Review of Psychology, 2003
Lyubomirsky et al., Review of General Psychology, 2005.
Tellegen et al., Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 1988
Not at all trying to be discouraging here, simply pointing out that some will have to work hard at this while it comes completely naturally to to others; no different than most other things in life, really. And I encourage you to work at it, since general life success is so dependent on interacting well with others.
[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
Most extroverts I know are fucking annoying. They always feel the need to speak every fucking thought that comes into their mind, and most find the reserved, quiet people such as myself “creepy”.Fuck off.
You see it in the classroom setting especially. Loudmouths who either A) are cl(ass) clowns or B) are these pseudo-intellectual types that constantly voice their bullshit opinions on politics, economics, literature, etc.
That being said, the world would be a lonely place without them, and not all extroverts are douchebags. However, most douchebags are extroverts(something to think about).
Be thankful we’re there to break the silence created by social dipshits like yourself.
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x2.
I would love to see a group, family, company or even gov’t full of introverts. Everyone would be sitting in the corner with their heads down to scared to say anything, form policy and make shit happen.
We’d be like a bunch of shy indians in huts 3rd world style too scared to ask for help building a house.
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
Polish Rifle wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
Most extroverts I know are fucking annoying. They always feel the need to speak every fucking thought that comes into their mind, and most find the reserved, quiet people such as myself “creepy”.Fuck off.
You see it in the classroom setting especially. Loudmouths who either A) are cl(ass) clowns or B) are these pseudo-intellectual types that constantly voice their bullshit opinions on politics, economics, literature, etc.
That being said, the world would be a lonely place without them, and not all extroverts are douchebags. However, most douchebags are extroverts(something to think about).
Be thankful we’re there to break the silence created by social dipshits like yourself.
x2.
I would love to see a group, family, company or even gov’t full of introverts. Everyone would be sitting in the corner with their heads down to scared to say anything, form policy and make shit happen.
We’d be like a bunch of shy indians in huts 3rd world style too scared to ask for help building a house. [/quote]
Don’t be ridiculous–the relationships are all relative. If you have a room full of introverts, there will be the most and least introverted in the group and the dynamics will adjust accordingly.
I am the loud-mouthed ‘oops did I say that out loud’ person when I’m surrounded by introverts but I am relatively quiet and reserved in a room full of extroverts. And I have absolutely no problem ‘making shit happen’ 
I just do it with less volume.
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
Of course there can be a civil debate here. You will find I’m usually the one flamed for an opinion though I don’t typically spend time figuring out a tactful way to say something, especially online. Then I respond in similar fashion and it gets kind of fun.
There are a handful of people who instantly start off with stupid shit like “money shot” and we typically won’t have a real convo. Lots of flaming back and forth in that case which I must say is kind of fun. Like a smart ass duel.
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Rarely, if ever, do you have a civil conversation with anyone, and it’s because of your own dipshit tendencies. You started a thread about how message boards such as this are for people who can’t have “real” relationships, and you’ve stated that you come on here with a “negative vibe” and you often look to start shit.
Why you’re still here is beyond me…except, obviously, to tell everyone how fantastic you are… which you devote an awful lot of time for someone who’s so fucking awesome.
In short, fuck yourself and your bullshit money shot.
[quote]chillain wrote:
OP, in the scientific community, it’s pretty well-accepted that extroversion is genetically-based, not likely to change signficantly over one’s lifetime, and most prob rooted in neurobiology. (arousability and neuroticism also share similar heritability)
Kagan, Annual Review of Psychology, 2003
Lyubomirsky et al., Review of General Psychology, 2005.
Tellegen et al., Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 1988
Not at all trying to be discouraging here, simply pointing out that some will have to work hard at this while it comes completely naturally to to others; no different than most other things in life, really. And I encourage you to work at it, since general life success is so dependent on interacting well with others.
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I thought that one of the most well respected theories in psychology stated that personality was largely environment dependent? It always made sense to me. If you hang out with Italians most people will see you as being extroverted even if you’re introverted by Italian standards.
[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
Most extroverts I know are fucking annoying. They always feel the need to speak every fucking thought that comes into their mind, and most find the reserved, quiet people such as myself “creepy”.Fuck off.
You see it in the classroom setting especially. Loudmouths who either A) are cl(ass) clowns or B) are these pseudo-intellectual types that constantly voice their bullshit opinions on politics, economics, literature, etc.
That being said, the world would be a lonely place without them, and not all extroverts are douchebags. However, most douchebags are extroverts(something to think about).
Be thankful we’re there to break the silence created by social dipshits like yourself.
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Eat shit, douchenozzle.
Idk some people in this thread make it look like being extroverted is actually a bad thing. shrug
I used to be mad introverted and shy and antisocial being the skinny kid I am.
I took a really weird approach to change it though- I faked it. No, I didn’t try too hard, just observed the extroverted people and then copied some things off of them until I started doing them naturally.
Now I actually play around with it whenever i DON"T get rejected or whatnot and try to see what does it take for any particular person to get mad at me or reject me or w/e. Of course, after that I usually play around again and get them to open up to me again.
Soo many friends now. I loves it =]
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
Of course there can be a civil debate here. You will find I’m usually the one flamed for an opinion though I don’t typically spend time figuring out a tactful way to say something, especially online. Then I respond in similar fashion and it gets kind of fun.
There are a handful of people who instantly start off with stupid shit like “money shot” and we typically won’t have a real convo. Lots of flaming back and forth in that case which I must say is kind of fun. Like a smart ass duel.
Rarely, if ever, do you have a civil conversation with anyone, and it’s because of your own dipshit tendencies. You started a thread about how message boards such as this are for people who can’t have “real” relationships, and you’ve stated that you come on here with a “negative vibe” and you often look to start shit.
Why you’re still here is beyond me…except, obviously, to tell everyone how fantastic you are… which you devote an awful lot of time for someone who’s so fucking awesome.
In short, fuck yourself and your bullshit money shot. [/quote]
And I obviously struck a chord with you because apparently you follow me around the forums reading all my posts. Or you find my face magnetic I don’t know.
I’ve made plenty of helpful posts in threads. Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant.
And I do find androgynous women unattractive. And Beyonce to be average. And I am fucking awesome. If you don’t like it eat a dick.
The mods are not here to decide if an opinion is right or wrong.
Just read this thread. I was contributing when, like a big giant douche bag, you spilled a bunch of nasty shit all over it and yes, I did respond in similar fashion.
Look in the mirror if you want to start making accusations. But at the end of the day remember, I did go to college, graduate in to a sweet job and do live well for this stage of life.
You work in a rock yard in a ghetto.
And yes, taking internet forums seriously is super gay.
[quote]debraD wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
Polish Rifle wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
Most extroverts I know are fucking annoying. They always feel the need to speak every fucking thought that comes into their mind, and most find the reserved, quiet people such as myself “creepy”.Fuck off.
You see it in the classroom setting especially. Loudmouths who either A) are cl(ass) clowns or B) are these pseudo-intellectual types that constantly voice their bullshit opinions on politics, economics, literature, etc.
That being said, the world would be a lonely place without them, and not all extroverts are douchebags. However, most douchebags are extroverts(something to think about).
Be thankful we’re there to break the silence created by social dipshits like yourself.
x2.
I would love to see a group, family, company or even gov’t full of introverts. Everyone would be sitting in the corner with their heads down to scared to say anything, form policy and make shit happen.
We’d be like a bunch of shy indians in huts 3rd world style too scared to ask for help building a house.
Don’t be ridiculous–the relationships are all relative. If you have a room full of introverts, there will be the most and least introverted in the group and the dynamics will adjust accordingly.
I am the loud-mouthed ‘oops did I say that out loud’ person when I’m surrounded by introverts but I am relatively quiet and reserved in a room full of extroverts. And I have absolutely no problem ‘making shit happen’ I just do it with less volume.
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Until a real extrovert shows up and then you are self admittedly hiding in the corner again with your head down.
One difference between an introvert and extrovert is that an extrovert will be extroverted regardless of who he or she is around. An introvert will come out of it’s shell when it feels safe but pulls it’s head and legs back in as soon as it senses a new person or change. It is a big pussy.
The world is full of introverts and extroverts and there is no relativity about it. Unless you do become an extrovert, if possible, you will always take the back seat in social situations. Which include work. Unless you carve out a niche for yourself as an IT Technician or work in a stone yard driving fork lifts by yourself all day of course.
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
debraD wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
I would love to see a group, family, company or even gov’t full of introverts. Everyone would be sitting in the corner with their heads down to scared to say anything, form policy and make shit happen.
We’d be like a bunch of shy indians in huts 3rd world style too scared to ask for help building a house.
Don’t be ridiculous–the relationships are all relative. If you have a room full of introverts, there will be the most and least introverted in the group and the dynamics will adjust accordingly.
I am the loud-mouthed ‘oops did I say that out loud’ person when I’m surrounded by introverts but I am relatively quiet and reserved in a room full of extroverts. And I have absolutely no problem ‘making shit happen’ I just do it with less volume.
Until a real extrovert shows up and then you are self admittedly hiding in the corner again with your head down.
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No, not really, I will just make less noise than the extrovert until I get to know this person and I will resume where I was.
Or, someone who thinks a little bit before speaking. Sometimes that is not quick enough other times it is crucial. Just saying every thing that comes to mind around here is sure way to make an ass of yourself because what we do requires careful consideration and thought. If you want to offer an idea up, it better be sound before you get everyone else involved or we would waste our time constantly running after stupid ideas that came unfiltered out of someone’s mouth. Do that once or twice and try getting taken seriously.
My experience doesn’t agree. I do fine in social situations and that includes work. My work is technical but requires a lot of interaction and socializing. I just don’t need to be loud. At least in my field of work it’s not the loudest that get results but the smartest and they are often not the same guy!
There is a place for both extroverts and introverts and the people who fall between. The most successful groups/teams/workplaces will have a good combination of both with the extreme of both being the most difficult to work with. In some fields it will be more to one extreme than the other. But just because you happen to be in a field that leans one way doesn’t mean every other field is like that.
If my workplace was full of arrogant loudmouth self-congratulatory assholes like yourself (being the extrovert you are, I know you will not take that personally :P) we would NOT get our work done.
But on the other hand, if you populated HR or Marketing with people like the ones I work with it would be as much of a disaster. As far as success goes the quietest introverted guy I work with has a salary that doubles most of HR and Marketing. Because he is very good at what he does and presentations are not in his job description where solving problems is.
[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
I thought that one of the most well respected theories in psychology stated that personality was largely environment dependent? It always made sense to me. If you hang out with Italians most people will see you as being extroverted even if you’re introverted by Italian standards. [/quote]
I’m certainly not one to argue any established theory in this field; though I will point out that I was referring to ‘extroversion’ in particular, and not any global personality generalizations.
[quote]debraD wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
debraD wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
I would love to see a group, family, company or even gov’t full of introverts. Everyone would be sitting in the corner with their heads down to scared to say anything, form policy and make shit happen.
We’d be like a bunch of shy indians in huts 3rd world style too scared to ask for help building a house.
Don’t be ridiculous–the relationships are all relative. If you have a room full of introverts, there will be the most and least introverted in the group and the dynamics will adjust accordingly.
I am the loud-mouthed ‘oops did I say that out loud’ person when I’m surrounded by introverts but I am relatively quiet and reserved in a room full of extroverts. And I have absolutely no problem ‘making shit happen’ I just do it with less volume.
Until a real extrovert shows up and then you are self admittedly hiding in the corner again with your head down.
No, not really, I will just make less noise than the extrovert until I get to know this person and I will resume where I was.
One difference between an introvert and extrovert is that an extrovert will be extroverted regardless of who he or she is around. An introvert will come out of it’s shell when it feels safe but pulls it’s head and legs back in as soon as it senses a new person or change. It is a big pussy.
Or, someone who thinks a little bit before speaking. Sometimes that is not quick enough other times it is crucial. Just saying every thing that comes to mind around here is sure way to make an ass of yourself because what we do requires careful consideration and thought. If you want to offer an idea up, it better be sound before you get everyone else involved or we would waste our time constantly running after stupid ideas that came unfiltered out of someone’s mouth. Do that once or twice and try getting taken seriously.
The world is full of introverts and extroverts and there is no relativity about it. Unless you do become an extrovert, if possible, you will always take the back seat in social situations. Which include work. Unless you carve out a niche for yourself as an IT Technician or work in a stone yard driving fork lifts by yourself all day of course.
My experience doesn’t agree. I do fine in social situations and that includes work. My work is technical but requires a lot of interaction and socializing. I just don’t need to be loud. At least in my field of work it’s not the loudest that get results but the smartest and they are often not the same guy!
There is a place for both extroverts and introverts and the people who fall between. The most successful groups/teams/workplaces will have a good combination of both with the extreme of both being the most difficult to work with. In some fields it will be more to one extreme than the other. But just because you happen to be in a field that leans one way doesn’t mean every other field is like that.
If my workplace was full of arrogant loudmouth self-congratulatory assholes like yourself (being the extrovert you are, I know you will not take that personally :P) we would NOT get our work done.
But on the other hand, if you populated HR or Marketing with people like the ones I work with it would be as much of a disaster. As far as success goes the quietest introverted guy I work with has a salary that doubles most of HR and Marketing. Because he is very good at what he does and presentations are not in his job description where solving problems is.
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I gave equal weight to considerations studying business, civil engineering and pre-law, and was able to enter each school at my university. I chose marketing because I enjoy people more than numbers. I chose against law because the idea of reading that much sounds really, really shitty and I found many “business” jobs often pay as much or more than law jobs, including sales, with much fewer hours.
A smart extrovert is supreme imo. And there are plenty of us. The dumb jock myth is a myth as I’m sure your smart self would agree and so is the people person/book person myth, from an extrovert stand point.
Lots of book worms are introverted though. Type A and B personalities can both develop a broad base of knowledge and a high IQ isn’t exclusive to either.
Not everyone will be born outgoing however, high IQ or not.
And, if you are a loud mouth, maybe you are not an introvert. It’s not like extroverts just blab off about any and everything with out consideration. That would be a chatty kathy. We just assert ourselves and don’t give a shit what people think after we come to a decision. Some times loudly.