Can You Turn Extroverted?

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[quote]Its All U wrote:
O.K.

I have nothing to do tonight, I am alone being introverted. I’m out of town on business. And no desire to hang in a bar looking for trouble, spending my hard earned cash.

So here is a rare long post from me.

I agree with a lot of what has been said here about being introverted. Which is what is probably my normal mode.

A few of the comments from oroboro, pmpm, and imhungry and a few others made me laugh because it sounds just like something that ran through my head once or twice.

I have no problems with social or professional interactions. In fact I am quite accomplished at them.

I can speak in front of large groups. I can be the life of the party. I can speak to people I don’t know. Sometimes it is work and sometimes it is fun.

I need a certain amount of “Me time” to regain energy. I enjoy my own company and don’t feel like that is something to be concerned about. I am my own best friend. I am one cool ass MF.

My wife is more of an extrovert and makes friends quickly. And she is much more forgiving of peoples shortcomings than I am.

I am very picky when it comes to people. Everybody has their funny ways and I am no exception. I just can’t get to a point with many people where I want to spend a lot of time and attention on them.

So as a result I usually only have 1-2 people (not counting Wife and Family) that I would call a true friend at any given time in my life. By true friend I mean someone who could show up at my house unannounced and I would be truly happy to see them. Regardless of the time or circumstances.
There have been periods of time (after moving or something) when I had 0 of these friends.

To the OP, don’t sweat it dude. Life and circumstances change. If you can learn to be happy with what you have then life will be much more rewarding. Don’t get hung up on wanting what other people think you should have, whether it be personality traits, jobs, money, status or whatever. That stuff is foisted upon you to make you spend your $$$.

I hear a few blithering idiots on this site, spouting “Look at me I’m the man”. Some people can see that path leads to nowhere and some can’t. But it is a one-way dead end street none the less. They get their rewards and energy from other people noticing them. They don’t understand that nobody really gives a shit about them. And nobody is truly happy to see them.

If you are the kind of person who is capable of being a true friend to someone. Then life will throw one in your path. Somewhere there is someone wanting to meet up with you. It will just happen out of nowhere. You will see.
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I have to believe that a large majority of the people here are just this way that you described. That’s a big part of why I liked (and eventually joined) this site.

I finally didn’t feel like I was that unique in the way I looked at things and how I enjoyed my solitude.

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The more I learned what an introvert is the more I became one. Don’t focus on it so much try to live your life and do what you enjoy. The less you focus on what others think and what should be done the better you will do what you seek.

If your in on friday night and you cool with it this weekend then fuck it stay in. If your tired of it, go out. Keep it simple.

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::Piggy Back:: Once you learn to be comfortable in your own skin it makes making friends and navigating through the shit storm that is life a HELLUVA lot easier … but it comes with time and experience.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them.

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave.

Also, it’s a suite, comprised of multiple offices, one of which is mine. And cubicles. And a break room. Hence the term, Office Suite. We share a hall bathroom with the floor though.

You will learn all about that if you ever become a professional one day. But take it in a stride. If you find that to be new information you will probably have an offer withdrawn.

And, when I do initiate contact through a cold call, I am convincing them we should meet to discuss their spending money. That is what you would call a sale.

And, placing a random call to a busy person, catching their attention and ultimately getting them to sign hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions to flow from their company through ours is really pretty fun.

Not as fun as networking functions with excellent food, open bars, golf courses, the occasional strip club, box seats to professional sporting events or the like mind you, but fun in it’s own way.

Don’t be jealous! I’m sure being from Jersey makes all that stuff suck anyways because it isn’t hard and there is a low potential for being murdered or having the opportunity to showcase your deadlier than a gun left hook!

And, I was able to get and am successful at my job because I’m a charismatic extrovert!

Well, it is true that there are A LOT of perks in working in PR and advertising! I know a PR manager from a major firm (one of the top 5 in USA) here in NYC and he gets loads of perks!

But I still don’t get the face![/quote]

The face is a secret that only I know the meaning of.

Irish is lucky to have it for his gay fantasies but he gets a little too aggressive in voicing them sometimes. Kind of freaks me out a little.

Yes, the perks kick ass.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them.

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave.

I have an office. It’s not a corner office but it is an official office. With a door and a window.

I’ve also decided I’ve figured out why you stalk me on the forums.

  1. You are gay and love my face.

  2. I am who you want to be.

Successful; financially, with women (sexually anyways. Your attraction seems to be with men and you must be having trouble bedding them), socially where it counts, athletically and I’m a better dick than you. Although you do try hard, it just comes naturally to me.

You are jealous! I don’t blame you really but it’s clear now. How cute!

My account manager and creative director probably do want to put their heads in a microwave sometimes.

When a client of mine needs something, I want it to be perfect. I get the commission and they do the work so there are nights when they stay way after 5 to get a project done on time when I don’t have to be at the office.

Or the account manager is buying media and coordinating dates during the 9-5 while the creative guy is re-doing a campaign and I’m golfing or eating steak on the company funded expense account, earning the commission on the work they are doing.

The sales I do are a far cry from the cubicle blues bullshit.

Fuck 'em if they don’t like it though. It’s the advertising game and they haven’t quit yet.

Oh, and I do have another hot date this weekend. And I hate to burst your bubble but with a female. A new one. The chick I met at the holiday party isn’t getting boring.

Have fun wanking it to my avatar though!

Jersey sucks and regardless of region, a smile and confident hello win people over!

Oh stop it Money Shot, you’re a lying bitch ass. You’re a 19 year old frat boy trollin’ motherfucker, nothin’ more.

All of the corporate jive bullshit is just more lies and delusions from a tool that should have stayed banned when they did it the first time.

I’m just wondering when the mods will get the hint again and kick your ass off. [/quote]

Denial only hints at your jealousy further. I was a 19 yr old frat guy years ago. A frat guy even 1.5 years ago, but not 19 yrs old at that point.

I was in college when I first joined this site but have since graduated in to a sweet fucking job.

Don’t be sad. You’ll get your opportunity too if you keep your mind open to see it. Easy on soliciting money shots though. It’s a quick way to lose your opportunity and most future doors won’t open that otherwise would have.

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[quote]Its All U wrote:
O.K.

I have nothing to do tonight, I am alone being introverted. I’m out of town on business. And no desire to hang in a bar looking for trouble, spending my hard earned cash.

So here is a rare long post from me.

I agree with a lot of what has been said here about being introverted. Which is what is probably my normal mode.

A few of the comments from oroboro, pmpm, and imhungry and a few others made me laugh because it sounds just like something that ran through my head once or twice.

I have no problems with social or professional interactions. In fact I am quite accomplished at them.

I can speak in front of large groups. I can be the life of the party. I can speak to people I don’t know. Sometimes it is work and sometimes it is fun.

I need a certain amount of “Me time” to regain energy. I enjoy my own company and don’t feel like that is something to be concerned about. I am my own best friend. I am one cool ass MF.

My wife is more of an extrovert and makes friends quickly. And she is much more forgiving of peoples shortcomings than I am.

I am very picky when it comes to people. Everybody has their funny ways and I am no exception. I just can’t get to a point with many people where I want to spend a lot of time and attention on them.

So as a result I usually only have 1-2 people (not counting Wife and Family) that I would call a true friend at any given time in my life. By true friend I mean someone who could show up at my house unannounced and I would be truly happy to see them. Regardless of the time or circumstances.
There have been periods of time (after moving or something) when I had 0 of these friends.

To the OP, don’t sweat it dude. Life and circumstances change. If you can learn to be happy with what you have then life will be much more rewarding. Don’t get hung up on wanting what other people think you should have, whether it be personality traits, jobs, money, status or whatever. That stuff is foisted upon you to make you spend your $$$.

I hear a few blithering idiots on this site, spouting “Look at me I’m the man”. Some people can see that path leads to nowhere and some can’t. But it is a one-way dead end street none the less. They get their rewards and energy from other people noticing them. They don’t understand that nobody really gives a shit about them. And nobody is truly happy to see them.

If you are the kind of person who is capable of being a true friend to someone. Then life will throw one in your path. Somewhere there is someone wanting to meet up with you. It will just happen out of nowhere. You will see.
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Yeah I can relate! Good post!

Thanks to all for your advice and insights!

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[quote]Its All U wrote:

If you are the kind of person who is capable of being a true friend to someone. Then life will throw one in your path. Somewhere there is someone wanting to meet up with you. It will just happen out of nowhere. You will see.
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Life doesn’t throw shit in your path. You make your path, big or small, and go with it. Of course there are some exceptions when we get lucky but just waiting for the world to give you crap will not take you anywhere.

Keep to yourself and you’ll have a smaller pool of people and opportunities to choose from than some one who goes out, meets people and builds relationships. Not necessarily true friends but relationships none the less.

I find it unlikely you found your wife, job or the friends you have by sitting in your house.

You went out and made contacts that eventually led to a job, a wife and friends.

Even if you didn’t directly go looking for a wife, you met her somewhere and that contact evolved in to what it is, same as a job lead.

The universe or world what ever you mentioned didn’t deliver shit to your couch.

I agree there is a difference in friends and associates. I would say I too have a handful of friends that I would really trust no matter what. I think that is the same for most people, introverts and extroverts.

I grew up with these guys since kindergarden. In the houston burbs, lots of families come and go due to the oil industry which requires workers, from the bottom up, to be fairly mobile as new projects open world wide and need to be managed and worked.

Lots of kids came and went but a few of us stayed in the neighborhood from k-12. We sort of formed a core group and had other friends who moved in hang out until they moved again.

These people will be my lifetime friends. I know I can count on them.

I tend to have a lot of associates too however. And buddies. As irish mentioned, I was in a fraternity. I was also the prez of my university’s American Marketing Association chapter who was active on campus and networked with professional chapters here in Texas.

I met lots of people, some I liked and some I didn’t in both groups, in classes and now at networking events.

I balance these people, the ones I don’t like included, because they potentially can help me in some way or I can help them or someone they know, leading to them owing me favors at some point.

It’s called networking and if you are good at it, as most extroverts are, you can pave your own road in the world with choices rather than having one option “delivered” to you and calling it god’s gift or the universe plan or what ever. It’s slim pickings to be accurate.

And don’t you worry about my posts with Irish. While this is a public forum for anyone to read, he says some wacky shit in another forum on this site and we go around from time to time. He follows me to see my face and loves my attention, even if he gets it through negativity. Like a school boy harassing girls except he’s gay. And older.

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them.

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave.

I have an office. It’s not a corner office but it is an official office. With a door and a window.

I’ve also decided I’ve figured out why you stalk me on the forums.

  1. You are gay and love my face.

  2. I am who you want to be.

Successful; financially, with women (sexually anyways. Your attraction seems to be with men and you must be having trouble bedding them), socially where it counts, athletically and I’m a better dick than you. Although you do try hard, it just comes naturally to me.

You are jealous! I don’t blame you really but it’s clear now. How cute!

My account manager and creative director probably do want to put their heads in a microwave sometimes.

When a client of mine needs something, I want it to be perfect. I get the commission and they do the work so there are nights when they stay way after 5 to get a project done on time when I don’t have to be at the office.

Or the account manager is buying media and coordinating dates during the 9-5 while the creative guy is re-doing a campaign and I’m golfing or eating steak on the company funded expense account, earning the commission on the work they are doing.

The sales I do are a far cry from the cubicle blues bullshit.

Fuck 'em if they don’t like it though. It’s the advertising game and they haven’t quit yet.

Oh, and I do have another hot date this weekend. And I hate to burst your bubble but with a female. A new one. The chick I met at the holiday party isn’t getting boring.

Have fun wanking it to my avatar though!

Jersey sucks and regardless of region, a smile and confident hello win people over!

Oh stop it Money Shot, you’re a lying bitch ass. You’re a 19 year old frat boy trollin’ motherfucker, nothin’ more.

All of the corporate jive bullshit is just more lies and delusions from a tool that should have stayed banned when they did it the first time.

I’m just wondering when the mods will get the hint again and kick your ass off.

Denial only hints at your jealousy further. I was a 19 yr old frat guy years ago. A frat guy even 1.5 years ago, but not 19 yrs old at that point.

I was in college when I first joined this site but have since graduated in to a sweet fucking job.

Don’t be sad. You’ll get your opportunity too if you keep your mind open to see it. Easy on soliciting money shots though. It’s a quick way to lose your opportunity and most future doors won’t open that otherwise would have.[/quote]

LOL. That’s right. I’m envious of some frat boy oily faced cocksucker like you who poses as a corporate whore on the internet. Right. Sure.

Again, just waiting for the mods to ban you again. It ain’t comin soon enough.

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:

And don’t you worry about my posts with Irish. While this is a public forum for anyone to read, he says some wacky shit in another forum on this site and we go around from time to time. He follows me to see my face and loves my attention, even if he gets it through negativity. Like a school boy harassing girls except he’s gay. And older.

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LOL. You are one damaged motherfucker.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them.

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave.

I have an office. It’s not a corner office but it is an official office. With a door and a window.

I’ve also decided I’ve figured out why you stalk me on the forums.

  1. You are gay and love my face.

  2. I am who you want to be.

Successful; financially, with women (sexually anyways. Your attraction seems to be with men and you must be having trouble bedding them), socially where it counts, athletically and I’m a better dick than you. Although you do try hard, it just comes naturally to me.

You are jealous! I don’t blame you really but it’s clear now. How cute!

My account manager and creative director probably do want to put their heads in a microwave sometimes.

When a client of mine needs something, I want it to be perfect. I get the commission and they do the work so there are nights when they stay way after 5 to get a project done on time when I don’t have to be at the office.

Or the account manager is buying media and coordinating dates during the 9-5 while the creative guy is re-doing a campaign and I’m golfing or eating steak on the company funded expense account, earning the commission on the work they are doing.

The sales I do are a far cry from the cubicle blues bullshit.

Fuck 'em if they don’t like it though. It’s the advertising game and they haven’t quit yet.

Oh, and I do have another hot date this weekend. And I hate to burst your bubble but with a female. A new one. The chick I met at the holiday party isn’t getting boring.

Have fun wanking it to my avatar though!

Jersey sucks and regardless of region, a smile and confident hello win people over!

Oh stop it Money Shot, you’re a lying bitch ass. You’re a 19 year old frat boy trollin’ motherfucker, nothin’ more.

All of the corporate jive bullshit is just more lies and delusions from a tool that should have stayed banned when they did it the first time.

I’m just wondering when the mods will get the hint again and kick your ass off.

Denial only hints at your jealousy further. I was a 19 yr old frat guy years ago. A frat guy even 1.5 years ago, but not 19 yrs old at that point.

I was in college when I first joined this site but have since graduated in to a sweet fucking job.

Don’t be sad. You’ll get your opportunity too if you keep your mind open to see it. Easy on soliciting money shots though. It’s a quick way to lose your opportunity and most future doors won’t open that otherwise would have.

LOL. That’s right. I’m envious of some frat boy oily faced cocksucker like you who poses as a corporate whore on the internet. Right. Sure.

Again, just waiting for the mods to ban you again. It ain’t comin soon enough.[/quote]
Frat alum is more accurate. Time moves forward and some of us move up, such as myself.

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Not to be an ass or anything, but what are the benifits of belonging to a fraternity? You live in a big house off campus with a bunch of other guys, probably have some sweet parties, and maybe bang some sorority girls, but other than that are there any other benefits?

Just curious as to what the appeal is. Besdies banging sorority girls.

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[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Not to be an ass or anything, but what are the benifits of belonging to a fraternity? You live in a big house off campus with a bunch of other guys, probably have some sweet parties, and maybe bang some sorority girls, but other than that are there any other benefits?

Just curious as to what the appeal is. Besdies banging sorority girls.[/quote]

Well banging sorority girls is a big one. But pretty much everyone gets to do that.

I lived in the house for a semester and moved to an apartment with no roommates. So the house wasn’t a benefit, at least not to me, as a living situation. It was great to have it for the parties though. I didn’t like living where I partied and where something was going on 24/7. When I felt like participating I stopped by, usually every day for a couple hours at least, but when I was bored, tired or needed to study I went home to a quiet place.

In college it’s pretty much the girls and parties. You have a hundred plus guys who all pay dues, or their parents do, and the money adds up quickly.

You can throw all out bashes and it’s fun. The house is usually paid off and has been for years and the taxes and upkeep are taken care of by alumni funds.

We did have test answer keys, we “donated” to the local police department as one of our charities and got away with more shenanigans than we should have because of it, we usually got first dibs on incoming freshmen bitches…

After college you do have a large network. As much as some people hate frats, many alumni go on to do big things and like helping “brothers” out. It makes for a cool system of upward mobility.

There are definitely cheesy and downright gay aspects of frats though, and while exaggerated, the hazing, the people who join just to belong and the shady frats who date rape or move drugs through campus do happen. The drug dealing frats are really just mini cartels by another name though and are to be avoided by any typical beer loving, skirt chasing, college frat guy.

Short answer; the parties, the bitches and the network. And test answer keys.

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[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Not to be an ass or anything, but what are the benifits of belonging to a fraternity? You live in a big house off campus with a bunch of other guys, probably have some sweet parties, and maybe bang some sorority girls, but other than that are there any other benefits?

Just curious as to what the appeal is. Besdies banging sorority girls.[/quote]

It’s the perfect opportunity to join a group that touts “Individuality” and then find yourself dressing and talking like every other douche bag in the house.

My University had (and still has) the largest “Greek System” in the nation. Although a few of my friends joined frats, I personally avoided it like the plague.

No offense Formerly Texas Guy (I’ll leave you and Irish to argue) but us GDI’s banged our share of sorority chicks as well…

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To Its All U

Well said and an excellent post.

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I joined a fraternity my freshman year of college. Best decision I ever made.

It’s hard for me to describe all the benefits to someone not already a part of one (and when some people have a negative opinion stuck in their mind no matter what).

On a basic level…yeah, parties, girls, brotherhood. I’ve been out several years now, and I am still best friends with they guys I met there. We go to each others homes for vacation, I have guys coming to visit me in Europe, best man/groomsmen in each others weddings, etc.

Hell, I had four guys from my frat down range in Iraq with me and during holidays or college football games we would convoy to a FOB and chill. Additionally, I ended up running into guys from my fraternity (but different chapters) within my unit. It was great and really helped me adjust and make friends in Germany pretty fast.

Every chapter is different and all I can say is it’s a real shame if you absolutely hate frats without giving it a chance.

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[quote]Optimistic Cynic wrote:
I joined a fraternity my freshman year of college. Best decision I ever made.

It’s hard for me to describe all the benefits to someone not already a part of one (and when some people have a negative opinion stuck in their mind no matter what).

On a basic level…yeah, parties, girls, brotherhood. I’ve been out several years now, and I am still best friends with they guys I met there. We go to each others homes for vacation, I have guys coming to visit me in Europe, best man/groomsmen in each others weddings, etc.

Hell, I had four guys from my frat down range in Iraq with me and during holidays or college football games we would convoy to a FOB and chill. Additionally, I ended up running into guys from my fraternity (but different chapters) within my unit. It was great and really helped me adjust and make friends in Germany pretty fast.

Every chapter is different and all I can say is it’s a real shame if you absolutely hate frats without giving it a chance. [/quote]

I’m happy to hear you enjoyed your experience. To each his own I guess.

I’m not saying there aren’t any good fraternities out there, and I don’t “hate” much of anything. Awfully strong word my friend. Again, a couple of my best friends were frat brothers.

I still think the platform they preach upon is nothing more than elitism. The Greek System is the High School equivalent of a clique.

I tend to choose my own path.

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[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Not to be an ass or anything, but what are the benifits of belonging to a fraternity? You live in a big house off campus with a bunch of other guys, probably have some sweet parties, and maybe bang some sorority girls, but other than that are there any other benefits?

Just curious as to what the appeal is. Besdies banging sorority girls.

It’s the perfect opportunity to join a group that touts “Individuality” and then find yourself dressing and talking like every other douche bag in the house.

My University had (and still has) the largest “Greek System” in the nation. Although a few of my friends joined frats, I personally avoided it like the plague.

No offense Formerly Texas Guy (I’ll leave you and Irish to argue) but us GDI’s banged our share of sorority chicks as well…

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None taken. To each his own for sure.

And yes, non frat guys did bang plenty of sorority women. Frat guys banged lots of non sorority women as well.

I do see where the cliquish image comes from but think that is one of the downfalls of fraternities. As I mentioned, there are some undeniably gay aspects to the greek life.

people who join a frat to be in one, plaster stickers all over their cars, get tats, t-shirts and hats and wear them all at the same time every day are certainly gay and most likely their own fraternity agrees and regrets bidding on them.

Some of my closest college buds were my frat “brothers”, especially my big brother and most of my pledge class.

I made good friends unaffiliated with the greek scene too. I went to plenty of non frat parties though I must say they really didn’t cut the mustard.

I think most guys in frats do their own thing really. Sure they go to meetings, are paying dues to a group etc, but we eat when we want, sleep when we want, fuck who we want, hang out where we want etc just like anybody else.

With the perks of kick ass parties, test key answersheets, free rent if you can handle the environment, first dibs at frosh bitches and a pool of sorority girls who may fuck others but def. keep it greek and frequently too.

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:

None taken. To each his own for sure.

And yes, non frat guys did bang plenty of sorority women. Frat guys banged lots of non sorority women as well.

I do see where the cliquish image comes from but think that is one of the downfalls of fraternities. As I mentioned, there are some undeniably gay aspects to the greek life.

people who join a frat to be in one, plaster stickers all over their cars, get tats, t-shirts and hats and wear them all at the same time every day are certainly gay and most likely their own fraternity agrees and regrets bidding on them.

Some of my closest college buds were my frat “brothers”, especially my big brother and most of my pledge class.

I made good friends unaffiliated with the greek scene too. I went to plenty of non frat parties though I must say they really didn’t cut the mustard.

I think most guys in frats do their own thing really. Sure they go to meetings, are paying dues to a group etc, but we eat when we want, sleep when we want, fuck who we want, hang out where we want etc just like anybody else.

With the perks of kick ass parties, test key answersheets, free rent if you can handle the environment, first dibs at frosh bitches and a pool of sorority girls who may fuck others but def. keep it greek and frequently too.

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Solid answer…

It’s good to know there can be civil debate on here from time to time.

My buddies were ATO, which was essentially the “Jock Fraternity” on campus. I went to the vast majority of their parties and was welcome to come and go in the house as I saw fit.

I enjoyed the perks without having to be a member. By perks, I mean women… Lots of glorious women.

Oh, being an extrovert helped along the way as well. Still does almost 17 years later.

Funny how we’re both in sales…

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
Its All U wrote:

If you are the kind of person who is capable of being a true friend to someone. Then life will throw one in your path. Somewhere there is someone wanting to meet up with you. It will just happen out of nowhere. You will see.

Life doesn’t throw shit in your path. You make your path, big or small, and go with it. Of course there are some exceptions when we get lucky but just waiting for the world to give you crap will not take you anywhere.

Keep to yourself and you’ll have a smaller pool of people and opportunities to choose from than some one who goes out, meets people and builds relationships. Not necessarily true friends but relationships none the less.

I find it unlikely you found your wife, job or the friends you have by sitting in your house.

You went out and made contacts that eventually led to a job, a wife and friends.

Even if you didn’t directly go looking for a wife, you met her somewhere and that contact evolved in to what it is, same as a job lead.

The universe or world what ever you mentioned didn’t deliver shit to your couch.

I agree there is a difference in friends and associates. I would say I too have a handful of friends that I would really trust no matter what. I think that is the same for most people, introverts and extroverts.

I grew up with these guys since kindergarden. In the houston burbs, lots of families come and go due to the oil industry which requires workers, from the bottom up, to be fairly mobile as new projects open world wide and need to be managed and worked.

Lots of kids came and went but a few of us stayed in the neighborhood from k-12. We sort of formed a core group and had other friends who moved in hang out until they moved again.

These people will be my lifetime friends. I know I can count on them.

I tend to have a lot of associates too however. And buddies. As irish mentioned, I was in a fraternity. I was also the prez of my university’s American Marketing Association chapter who was active on campus and networked with professional chapters here in Texas.

I met lots of people, some I liked and some I didn’t in both groups, in classes and now at networking events.

I balance these people, the ones I don’t like included, because they potentially can help me in some way or I can help them or someone they know, leading to them owing me favors at some point.

It’s called networking and if you are good at it, as most extroverts are, you can pave your own road in the world with choices rather than having one option “delivered” to you and calling it god’s gift or the universe plan or what ever. It’s slim pickings to be accurate.

And don’t you worry about my posts with Irish. While this is a public forum for anyone to read, he says some wacky shit in another forum on this site and we go around from time to time. He follows me to see my face and loves my attention, even if he gets it through negativity. Like a school boy harassing girls except he’s gay. And older.

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Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Another night on the road for me so, back at ya

You and I are in two different places in life. You are younger, still full of piss and vinegar and charging straight forward with both heads. You are at the start of your working life and want to kick some ass and make progress. All good stuff.

Me I have already done it. I have already exceeded my income goals, sales goals, management goals, etc. I have had a smorgosborg of pussy from around the world from my Navy days.

I worked out like a fiend in my teens and through my 20’s. There are things I can do and things I can’t. I am mature enough to admit it now. For one I will not be a competitive body builder. My hard coreness stops far short of that.

You seem like a sharp enough guy, so I wont try to tell you that you got it all wrong. Because you don’t, it is just a matter of perspective. I don’t disagree with many of your points.

I do disagree with your point of view on life though.

While I don’t promote just waiting for shit to happen, shit none the less will happen.

For instance (and there are many more)
I took in my brother in laws 3 kids when he and his wife went to prison for 7 years. I also have given my wifes elderly aunt a place to live, free of charge.

So including my own 2 kids and wife now I have 8 people who live in my house and sit on my couch. Lucky for me I have a pretty big house. 3500 sg ft and now 5 bedrooms. Had to kiss my garage good bye. 5 acres of fenced in yard, with an electronic access gate, for them to roam around in as well. Horses, dogs, shoes and bicycles abound.

My wifes Aunt just happens to be a clean freak who loves to cook and clean. Comes in handy with all the kids.

This was not a planned event, I didn’t make this happen. But it is a signifigant part of my life and theirs now. From their point of view they did nothing to make any of this happen either. As far as they are concerned life, the universe, an answered prayer, or luck landed them a place to live.

And a loving caring environment to grow up in. They are so much better off than they would be with their meth addicted parents, whose main goals in life were to party, have sex, and get high. A very lucky turn of events for these kids who otherwise would be on the same sorry road to being a waste of a human being.

The point I am trying to make is that life is ever changing and you don’t know for sure what will happen. When you can see from this point of view, you can see that life is actually sending you stuff all the time.

It’s how you react to it that makes an opportunity either lost or found. Now I have the big family I always wanted. My wife put a stop to the brady bunch plan. So I thought that was a done deal. But looky what happened.

Childhood friends, a lot of mine have died, lost track of some, cant stand what some have become.

I actually did actively go looking for a wife. Got out of the military to start a family. Only took 2 weeks to find her.

My best friends little sister grew up to be a hottie. She was exactly what I was looking for, same back ground, knew her family, wanted the same things in life. She was 21, single and looking for a husband. Cosmic

And I have noticed when I want a new dog or a cat one will find me pretty fast. And when I am lucky, life will send me a new friend as well. Got one (online) yesterday as a matter of fact.

Irish is big enough to take care of himself. Right?

If some of this is stupid don’t flame me. I’m just going to hit the send button.

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Well said and an excellent post.

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Thanks