Can You Turn Extroverted?

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them. [/quote]

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave.

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[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:

Needless to say, it shocks me that there are so many introverts on these Forums. I would have believed the exact opposite.

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It doesn’t shock me at all. We get to control the extent of our interactions, and can always choose to not post. Introverts love the introweb.

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Some actors and famous musicians where introverted in their younger years? How do you explain that. They are not “phonys”, they are what they are today.

Its:

genes
environment
upbringing
circumstances
and what you thought was important to you

An extrovert in one environment might not be allowed to in another, if he has no “support base”.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them. [/quote]

Nope.

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[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Polish Rifle wrote:

Needless to say, it shocks me that there are so many introverts on these Forums. I would have believed the exact opposite.

It doesn’t shock me at all. We get to control the extent of our interactions, and can always choose to not post. Introverts love the introweb.[/quote]

I’m looking at it from a fitness/bodybuilding lifestyle standpoint, not a chat room mentality.

Maybe I’m naive, but I tend to envision more “Alpha” qualities in people who lift and take part in strength or combat sports. I also relate these qualities to the literal sense of the word “extrovert.”

Hence, my shock to the number of introverts on this particular Forum.

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[quote]djrobins wrote:
Some actors and famous musicians where introverted in their younger years? How do you explain that. They are not “phonys”, they are what they are today.
Its:

genes
environment
upbringing
circumstances
and what you thought was important to you

An extrovert in one environment might not be allowed to in another, if he has no “support base”.[/quote]

Did you fall off the bus, or did someone push you?

Actors are the living definition of the word phony. They get to hide behind fictitious characters for their living.

Musicians? They’re absorbed in their music. I hardly think playing an instrument or singing requires one to be an extrovert.

Next.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them.

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave. [/quote]

I have an office. It’s not a corner office but it is an official office. With a door and a window.

I’ve also decided I’ve figured out why you stalk me on the forums.

  1. You are gay and love my face.

  2. I am who you want to be.

Successful; financially, with women (sexually anyways. Your attraction seems to be with men and you must be having trouble bedding them), socially where it counts, athletically and I’m a better dick than you. Although you do try hard, it just comes naturally to me.

You are jealous! I don’t blame you really but it’s clear now. How cute!

My account manager and creative director probably do want to put their heads in a microwave sometimes.

When a client of mine needs something, I want it to be perfect. I get the commission and they do the work so there are nights when they stay way after 5 to get a project done on time when I don’t have to be at the office.

Or the account manager is buying media and coordinating dates during the 9-5 while the creative guy is re-doing a campaign and I’m golfing or eating steak on the company funded expense account, earning the commission on the work they are doing.

The sales I do are a far cry from the cubicle blues bullshit.

Fuck 'em if they don’t like it though. It’s the advertising game and they haven’t quit yet.

Oh, and I do have another hot date this weekend. And I hate to burst your bubble but with a female. A new one. The chick I met at the holiday party isn’t getting boring.

Have fun wanking it to my avatar though!

Jersey sucks and regardless of region, a smile and confident hello win people over!

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[quote]KBCThird wrote:
Steel Nation wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
Well that’s just a straight nature vs nurture debate, btu I think most would agree that we arrive at who we are through a combination of the two. I happen to believe that you are born with a natural inclination towards introversion or extroversion. I’m sure your childhood experiences play SOME role in determining where you fall on the spectrum - extremely introverted, somewhat introverted, neutral, somewhat extroverted, extremely extroverted - but I don’t think people just will themselves one way or another

It’s not nature vs. nurture for me. I say fuck em both. I lump my childhood right in there with my genes. My childhood was my parents’ responsibility. It’s on me now, and I’m not going to go through life thinking that I’m stuck being one way or the other because my dad didn’t hug me enough when I was 5. That just seems like another excuse to me.

I’m not denying that your experiences (and your genes, to an extent) shape who you are. That is almost definitely true. I’m just saying that, right now, you have no control over something that happened 5 minutes ago, let alone 10 years ago. So why limit yourself by saying “my dad yelled at me for talking in Sunday school so now I’m an introvert,” when you can just say “fuck it, I’m going to be how I WANT to be.”

So nature and nurture determine who you are RIGHT NOW. But YOU determine who you’re GOING TO BE tomorrow. That’s my point.

Hmmmm, maybe I misunderstood your original post. Or maybe you misunderstood mine. Not sure, but I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing.[/quote]

You said that you don’t believe someone can will themselves one way or the other. I took that to mean that you don’t think that people can go against their genes and their upbringing. So if someone’s genes and upbringing give them a natural tendency towards introversion, then they can’t consciously make the choice to be extroverted. I disagree.

I’m sorry if I took too big of a mental leap. I tend to go on tangents sometimes that lose direction.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them.

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave. [/quote]

Also, it’s a suite, comprised of multiple offices, one of which is mine. And cubicles. And a break room. Hence the term, Office Suite. We share a hall bathroom with the floor though.

You will learn all about that if you ever become a professional one day. But take it in a stride. If you find that to be new information you will probably have an offer withdrawn.

And, when I do initiate contact through a cold call, I am convincing them we should meet to discuss their spending money. That is what you would call a sale.

And, placing a random call to a busy person, catching their attention and ultimately getting them to sign hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions to flow from their company through ours is really pretty fun.

Not as fun as networking functions with excellent food, open bars, golf courses, the occasional strip club, box seats to professional sporting events or the like mind you, but fun in it’s own way.

Don’t be jealous! I’m sure being from Jersey makes all that stuff suck anyways because it isn’t hard and there is a low potential for being murdered or having the opportunity to showcase your deadlier than a gun left hook!

And, I was able to get and am successful at my job because I’m a charismatic extrovert!

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[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
Admittedly, I only read the first page and then skimmed the rest.

Needless to say, it shocks me that there are so many introverts on these Forums. I would have believed the exact opposite.

For the record, I’m an extrovert - always have been. The idea that I could become an introvert is just as ridiculous as an introvert thinking they can become an extrovert.

You can’t change your wiring. You’ll simply come off as someone who pretends to be someone other than who they really are…

It’s easy to spot a phony. I’m sure most of you would agree with this statement.
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I disagree with your entire post. Unless I’m the only exception, you most certainly can change your personality.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
I disagree with your entire post. Unless I’m the only exception, you most certainly can change your personality.[/quote]

Bravo.

There’s exceptions to every rule.

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[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
Bravo.

There’s exceptions to every rule.

[/quote]

I don’t know, I tend to think that if I can do something, then just about anyone can.

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I’m sure there are some people that aren’t wired the right way. On the other hand, I think it’s often an issue of practice and comfort level.

In that sense, I don’t think it’s a matter of changing your personality, but rather uncovering it by resolving your inhibitions. The only way to do that really is to do the things you’re afraid of and get positive reinforcement.

The only trouble is that it’s not a permanent fix. If you don’t actively maintain what you’ve accomplished, you can easily slip back into your old ways.

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Alright heres my two cents. Yes you can change from introverted to very extroverted. Because I did. HA.

Seriously if your trying to learn how to talk to people just go to a mall, and start up conversations. I work sales part time and this helped me conquer that fear quick. I also made some pretty cool friends from doing it too.

Don’t drop all your introvert rules though. Sometimes its fun just to chill with yourself.

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them.

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave.

Also, it’s a suite, comprised of multiple offices, one of which is mine. And cubicles. And a break room. Hence the term, Office Suite. We share a hall bathroom with the floor though.

You will learn all about that if you ever become a professional one day. But take it in a stride. If you find that to be new information you will probably have an offer withdrawn.

And, when I do initiate contact through a cold call, I am convincing them we should meet to discuss their spending money. That is what you would call a sale.

And, placing a random call to a busy person, catching their attention and ultimately getting them to sign hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions to flow from their company through ours is really pretty fun.

Not as fun as networking functions with excellent food, open bars, golf courses, the occasional strip club, box seats to professional sporting events or the like mind you, but fun in it’s own way.

Don’t be jealous! I’m sure being from Jersey makes all that stuff suck anyways because it isn’t hard and there is a low potential for being murdered or having the opportunity to showcase your deadlier than a gun left hook!

And, I was able to get and am successful at my job because I’m a charismatic extrovert![/quote]

Well, it is true that there are A LOT of perks in working in PR and advertising! I know a PR manager from a major firm (one of the top 5 in USA) here in NYC and he gets loads of perks!

But I still don’t get the face!

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Sure you can, the internet won’t help.

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If you’re introverted due to shyness, insecurity, and lack of confidence, then yes, you can turn extroverted.

But, if you are secure in who you are, then you’re going to be able to adjust to certain social situations, but you’ll never be able to be considered extroverted.

I have a certain amount of energy that I can use around people, and once that’s used up, i’m out.

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Do you make that dumb face when you are giving presentations?

What agency do you work for? I’m going to ask them.

It’s probably even stranger when he does it on the phone when he’s trying to “convince people to meet and give him their money.”

The people in the cubicles next to him probably laugh hysterically.

“Hey Tex-ass, that shit don’t work over the phone!”

“Shut up! It doesn’t work for you because you’re not as charismatic!”

There’s probably a few people in his office that wish there was a way to put their head in the microwave.

I have an office. It’s not a corner office but it is an official office. With a door and a window.

I’ve also decided I’ve figured out why you stalk me on the forums.

  1. You are gay and love my face.

  2. I am who you want to be.

Successful; financially, with women (sexually anyways. Your attraction seems to be with men and you must be having trouble bedding them), socially where it counts, athletically and I’m a better dick than you. Although you do try hard, it just comes naturally to me.

You are jealous! I don’t blame you really but it’s clear now. How cute!

My account manager and creative director probably do want to put their heads in a microwave sometimes.

When a client of mine needs something, I want it to be perfect. I get the commission and they do the work so there are nights when they stay way after 5 to get a project done on time when I don’t have to be at the office.

Or the account manager is buying media and coordinating dates during the 9-5 while the creative guy is re-doing a campaign and I’m golfing or eating steak on the company funded expense account, earning the commission on the work they are doing.

The sales I do are a far cry from the cubicle blues bullshit.

Fuck 'em if they don’t like it though. It’s the advertising game and they haven’t quit yet.

Oh, and I do have another hot date this weekend. And I hate to burst your bubble but with a female. A new one. The chick I met at the holiday party isn’t getting boring.

Have fun wanking it to my avatar though!

Jersey sucks and regardless of region, a smile and confident hello win people over![/quote]

Oh stop it Money Shot, you’re a lying bitch ass. You’re a 19 year old frat boy trollin’ motherfucker, nothin’ more.

All of the corporate jive bullshit is just more lies and delusions from a tool that should have stayed banned when they did it the first time.

I’m just wondering when the mods will get the hint again and kick your ass off.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

Unless I’m the only exception, you most certainly can change your personality.[/quote]

I think you’re mistaking extroversion with social apptitude. I’m an introvert, and I can talk to people just fine when the occasion requires it, but I find it generally unpleasant and tiresome, and I’d prefer to avoid it. Introverts can be sociable, but they find it draining. You can always improve upon your social skills, but you cannot change the fact that you just plain don’t like talkin’ to folks.

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O.K.

I have nothing to do tonight, I am alone being introverted. I’m out of town on business. And no desire to hang in a bar looking for trouble, spending my hard earned cash.

So here is a rare long post from me.

I agree with a lot of what has been said here about being introverted. Which is what is probably my normal mode.

A few of the comments from oroboro, pmpm, and imhungry and a few others made me laugh because it sounds just like something that ran through my head once or twice.

I have no problems with social or professional interactions. In fact I am quite accomplished at them.

I can speak in front of large groups. I can be the life of the party. I can speak to people I don’t know. Sometimes it is work and sometimes it is fun.

I need a certain amount of “Me time” to regain energy. I enjoy my own company and don’t feel like that is something to be concerned about. I am my own best friend. I am one cool ass MF.

My wife is more of an extrovert and makes friends quickly. And she is much more forgiving of peoples shortcomings than I am.

I am very picky when it comes to people. Everybody has their funny ways and I am no exception. I just can’t get to a point with many people where I want to spend a lot of time and attention on them.

So as a result I usually only have 1-2 people (not counting Wife and Family) that I would call a true friend at any given time in my life. By true friend I mean someone who could show up at my house unannounced and I would be truly happy to see them. Regardless of the time or circumstances.
There have been periods of time (after moving or something) when I had 0 of these friends.

To the OP, don’t sweat it dude. Life and circumstances change. If you can learn to be happy with what you have then life will be much more rewarding. Don’t get hung up on wanting what other people think you should have, whether it be personality traits, jobs, money, status or whatever. That stuff is foisted upon you to make you spend your $$$.

I hear a few blithering idiots on this site, spouting “Look at me I’m the man”. Some people can see that path leads to nowhere and some can’t. But it is a one-way dead end street none the less. They get their rewards and energy from other people noticing them. They don’t understand that nobody really gives a shit about them. And nobody is truly happy to see them.

If you are the kind of person who is capable of being a true friend to someone. Then life will throw one in your path. Somewhere there is someone wanting to meet up with you. It will just happen out of nowhere. You will see.