Can FINALLY Train Normally (Somewhat) and Need Help!

Can I be honest here? I don’t see how an individual, described the way you describe yourself, is yeeting a 1xBW dumbbell for paused reps.

On a scale of One to Jason Blaha, how objective were you being with the 220x5-10 DB Row claim?

I’m not trying to be a dick, and it’s okay if you think I am (I usually am), but I’m curious if perhaps there is a bit of cognitive disonnance happening here…?

On a scale of One to Jason Blaha, how objective were you being with the 220x5-10 DB Row claim?

I’m not trying to be a dick, and it’s okay if you think I am (I usually am), but I’m curious if perhaps there is a bit of cognitive disonnance happening here…?

Took a few vids now. Here. 127.5, 187.5, then 220. Didn’t eat anything today yet. This has been my form since I started with 3lbs, so it’s probably not good, but at least I’ve kept it consistent. Just did 3 reps with 220 since I’ve never worked out fasted before.

Edit: How do I get them to upload? It keeps on saying file size too big

Best bet is to throw them on youtube. You can make them unlisted, so that they are only visible here, where you share the link.

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Here. Current weight probably over 230lbs, need a diet lol. Did a short pause.

Insert bad form db row video here

Even though my back got pumped from this and I barely felt my biceps, I’m pretty sure I could get more growth from 120lbs and below and with my back more parallel. Still, posted this to show I’m not bullshitting. Like I said, this was my form even back with 3lbs.

I made an account just to post this.

Not a single one of those videos showed a single rep, you should be rowing HALF that weight.

also, did you polevault in highschool? i used to know someone with the same name as you

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you should probably be BARELY rowing 60s. watch some videos of proper dumbbell rowing form, what you are doing can barely be considered a shrug

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Just wanted to wish you good luck mate I know how hard it is coming back from injury. Crush it!

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I mean, I did watch some vids. Do you have a good one you recommend?

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My dude, your elbow didn’t bend.

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Firstly I applause you for putting the videos up and regardless of the range of motion that is a damn big dumbell.

I think you will get a lot of comments regarding your form on this exercise So I wont just repeat those comments.

You ultimate goal of being like Brian A is a great one to have but I would say, go back and watch a lot of Brians videos to see how he executes his movements, you will see he does everything with a full range of motion and with focus and intent on the muscles he is training.

Here is a video if Brian showing some row variations. Note he doesn’t use use 220lb dumbells

Good luck with your training goal. Lots of good programs recommended above and any of these will get you closer to your goal if you train right.

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Thanks! And criticism taken haha. The reason I made this thread in the first place is to make sure I get the proper guidance going forward, so feel free to criticize more on anything that seems odd/out of place. I obviously have no issue dropping down to whatever weight is needed on any lift.

@simo74

Same comment as above. Since I’d feel my back pump up pretty easily on rows, I thought what I was doing was fine. Comparing my videos to the ones you and Andrew posted, I can see that my elbow doesn’t go that far back.

@SvenG

I’m gonna buy 531 Forever tonight (hopefully). I used to have the original 531 when I did high school sports, but lost it. My main question is:

If I can only do 5s PRO and FSL 5x5 for the OHP/Bench, then where does the periodization (anchors/leaders) come in? Or should I not even worry about that right now? The original 531 didn’t have any sort of long term periodization from what I remember. Besides, hopefully in a year or two I am actually able to use the harder supplemental variations for OHP/Bench.

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Way to put up the video and take the feedback @startingagain

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Awesome! You’re in for a treat. Just be sure to actually read it.

I would not worry about it right now. Continue to work hard and work consistently—you’ll get there.

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Do 50 Assistance reps per category on Leader and 100 on Anchor

I mean, it’d be weird for me to post a thread asking for help and then attack the help haha. I tried some light proper ROM rows like the video Andrew posted and was able to do them. I definitely didn’t have the strength/shoulder blade stability to do that ROM when I started, though, even without weights. But I can do it now!

@SvenG

Just be sure to actually read it.

Will do haha. I’ve heard it’s a long read.

I would not worry about it right now. Continue to work hard and work consistently—you’ll get there

Gotcha! And a question:

I’m gonna have a long talk with my main PT regarding squats hopefully this Friday. My hip surgeon says no to full squats, but my shoulder orthopedic doc had said I’d never do a push up and should never even attempt machine upper body pushing exercises. A lot of these ortho docs seem to have a bias toward being extraordinarily cautious about lifting. All my PTs see no problems with full squats, though.

After this talk, I’m planning to start squats but with a light (75% or lower) TM just in case. However, in case all full squatting is out, what would you recommend? Just keep the squat day an assistance day perhaps?

@davemccright

Do 50 Assistance reps per category on Leader and 100 on Anchor

Even if both the leaders and anchors are FSL 5x5?

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Yes. You’ll see in the book that leaders only use 50 reps for assistance, anchors employ 100. Also on anchors, you could just use minimum reps on main sets.

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Alrighty, just bought 531 Forever and it should get here on April 1st!

Also, here are vids of me doing split squats and RDLs. Both just with 170lbs total since my legs are toast from two days ago. I added these two vids since these lifts do seem a bit strong compared to the others, so I want to make sure I’m not butchering them.

On split squats, I try to always touch the floor and then explode up with my front leg. And on RDLs, I push my hips back as far as possible, pause, then explode. I can only go as low on RDLs as my hips allow.

https://youtube.com/shorts/es5uEgf_Bng?feature=share4

https://youtube.com/shorts/SfxI5Aychtg?feature=share4

@TrainForPain @simo74 @anon6371718 @BigTomJ
Tagging you guys just to make sure. I don’t want to work up to 200lbs DBs only to learn I butchered it :rofl:

As for other lifts… I mean, I touch my shoulders and chest on Seated DB Presses and Incline/Flat DB Presses respectively and pause at the bottom.

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Those look much better than the row!

I know you’re trying to explode on all your lifts. On your split squat, I’d try to initiate that action through your lead heel rather than your hips. You’re losing your position when you transition from eccentric to concentric and I think it’s because you’re loading up to explode. I would try to lock those hips in place and just press hard through your foot.

You finish the RDL hard with your glutes at the top, instead of lower back, which is great. If I’m being picky, the last couple inches of the eccentric is more back action than hip, but I don’t see anything to stress about.

ROM was good in both.

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there are HUNDREDS of “how to dumbbell row”" videos and examples. whatever you were doing doesnt look like ANY of them.

I already started fixing it. I started yesterday evening on a proper row and figured out what I was doing wrong and why. My shoulder blades didn’t have the stability/strength for that full ROM when I started and so I ended up up progressing with what I could do (which was a tiny ROM, but it felt huge to me since it was all I could do).

I’m able to do a proper row now, though. So time to build back up but properly this time! I had to go through the same issue with my pressing when I could only do a tiny ROM at the top and nothing else.

@TrainForPain

Thanks for the feedback!

On your split squat, I’d try to initiate that action through your lead heel rather than your hips. You’re losing your position when you transition from eccentric to concentric and I think it’s because you’re loading up to explode. I would try to lock those hips in place and just press hard through your foot.

I’ll try that next time. I’m guessing this a safety issue?

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