[quote]SuperHuman25 wrote:
Im shocked at that statement, Has professor x ever walked into a D1 football programs weightroom? I know the Penn State workout coach and I asked him how many people on the team can bench over 400 and he told me…20. they have 20 kids on that team alone that bench over 400 and all of them are between 18 and 22.
I have two personal friends as well that i work out with, one that benches 430 and is 21 years old and one that benches about 440 right now and has his highschool bench press record for doing 415 as a senior in highschool. Maybe i just have strong friends, or maybe, your friends are just pussies :).[/quote]
Some of you seem a little slow. How many of those guys are on this site? Why is it when YOU get challenged, your first reaction is to find OTHER PEOPLE who have done it when you know that YOU can’t?
This isn’t about what other people can do. This is about what people ON T-Nation CAN DO.
[quote]roncesvalles wrote:
so tell us now prof x (and modok), how did you train when you we’re that young and how did you became so f*cking strong? did you follow training a musclegroup once a week? give us some insight pls ;)[/quote]
Right…like the 40 page thread that has been up for 5 years on this site and is right below this thread is too hard for you to find.
good work to all the youngins…I hit 4 plates when I was 27…didnt start benching for max lifts again until recently (past 3 months) back up to 335, I was no where near 405 when I was 23 so kudos…
[quote]SuperHuman25 wrote:
Im shocked at that statement, Has professor x ever walked into a D1 football programs weightroom? I know the Penn State workout coach and I asked him how many people on the team can bench over 400 and he told me…20. they have 20 kids on that team alone that bench over 400 and all of them are between 18 and 22.
I have two personal friends as well that i work out with, one that benches 430 and is 21 years old and one that benches about 440 right now and has his highschool bench press record for doing 415 as a senior in highschool. Maybe i just have strong friends, or maybe, your friends are just pussies :).[/quote]
How much do you bench? If it’s not 405 or close then your entire post was a waist of time.
Well i can get an easy 365 and have done 355 in competition. I will probably have 405 with about two months, i’ve been training to get over that hump for several months now.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Damn, half this thread sounds like the comments we’re always bitchin’ about getting from people.
“dude, how much do you bench?”
“X lbs”
“yeah, well my uncle/dad/friend/twin/grandma can bench more”[/quote]
x2. I also think a whole lot of people on here think adding 50+ lbs to their bench now, at 315+, will be as easy as it was when their max was 225+. It ain’t.
Benching 405 under the age of 23 is not that difficult, especially if you start lifting seriously while still in high school.
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Yet so far there’s only 3 people on the site under 23 that have posted doing it in this thread: Meganewb, Waylander, and BugeishAD. The rest of the posts (including yours) is second hand information about people who’ve benched 405.
Like I said, I was in the 405 neighborhood for the flat bench. I did it for a few reps on the floor press, along with a 350 cambered bar incline. So I guess it is safe to say I could have gotten it for one rep.
Again, if it’s not that much weight, than why so few people that can actually make that lift?
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Damn, half this thread sounds like the comments we’re always bitchin’ about getting from people.
“dude, how much do you bench?”
“X lbs”
“yeah, well my uncle/dad/friend/twin/grandma can bench more”[/quote]
x2. I also think a whole lot of people on here think adding 50+ lbs to their bench now, at 315+, will be as easy as it was when their max was 225+. It ain’t.[/quote]
Exactly. It is not as easy to add more weight to your bench once you get to 350 as it was to get there in the first place. All of these guys NOT lifting 400lbs claiming how easily they will hit it in the future seem greatly deluded about how much effort this takes.
That is also why so few ever actually get there on this site despite so many acting like strength is their main concern.
Benching 405 under the age of 23 is not that difficult, especially if you start lifting seriously while still in high school.
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Yet so far there’s only 3 people on the site under 23 that have posted doing it in this thread: Meganewb, Waylander, and BugeishAD. The rest of the posts (including yours) is second hand information about people who’ve benched 405.
Like I said, I was in the 405 neighborhood for the flat bench. I did it for a few reps on the floor press, along with a 350 cambered bar incline. So I guess it is safe to say I could have gotten it for one rep.
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Did you misunderstand his statement?
Out of ALL of you, there may be 3 guys on this whole board who can lift that much, especially for reps on a regular weekly basis.
If that weight is so easy to hit, why are so few of you on this site who can do it when so many claim that strength is their goal?
Benching 405 under the age of 23 is not that difficult, especially if you start lifting seriously while still in high school.
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Yet so far there’s only 3 people on the site under 23 that have posted doing it in this thread: Meganewb, Waylander, and BugeishAD. The rest of the posts (including yours) is second hand information about people who’ve benched 405.
Like I said, I was in the 405 neighborhood for the flat bench. I did it for a few reps on the floor press, along with a 350 cambered bar incline. So I guess it is safe to say I could have gotten it for one rep.
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Did you misunderstand his statement?
Out of ALL of you, there may be 3 guys on this whole board who can lift that much, especially for reps on a regular weekly basis.
If that weight is so easy to hit, why are so few of you on this site who can do it when so many claim that strength is their goal?[/quote]
I understood his statement. I’m not sure why their are so few of them. It does back up your claim that few actually train for strength. This site is hardly indicative of how the rest of the weight lifting world trains though. So I still think 405 is not that difficult to get to, based on what I have done and seen.
I understood his statement. I’m not sure why their are so few of them. It does back up your claim that few actually train for strength. This site is hardly indicative of how the rest of the weight lifting world trains though. So I still think 405 is not that difficult to get to, based on what I have done and seen. [/quote]
It IS difficult to get to. It takes a major focus on strength and increases in body weight and muscle mass to pull that off…something most of these guys don’t have. Getting to 315 is NOT the same as getting to 405 and heavier. It takes full body strength to move that much weight and short of genetic freaks, most won’t be doing anything like that UNDER 200lbs of body weight FOR REPS.
Yet, apparently, those of us who can are simply so “UNfunctional” and weak.
I just think it’s sad that everyone claims they are working on strength…yet they need a fucking calculator and the use of fractions in order to make themselves LOOK strong on paper.
Group the 1st - I would be at 400, but must first explain the injury/ies that prevent this from happening. Had those injuries not happened, I would include a video between every word I write
Group the 2nd - Everyone I hang out with benches 400+. I’m asking them to post videos. Expect them here soon
Group the 3rd - End of summer; done deal. Now that we’ve made that guarantee, how come nobody cares that we can deadlift 400?
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Identify where you belong:
Group the 1st - I would be at 400, but must first explain the injury/ies that prevent this from happening. Had those injuries not happened, I would include a video between every word I write
Group the 2nd - Everyone I hang out with benches 400+. I’m asking them to post videos. Expect them here soon
Group the 3rd - End of summer; done deal. Now that we’ve made that guarantee, how come nobody cares that we can deadlift 400?
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You forgot the 4th group- Let me throw up pictures of other people who I don’t even know who can bench press 405lbs as if that makes up for the fact that most on this site are weak as hell.
I understood his statement. I’m not sure why their are so few of them. It does back up your claim that few actually train for strength. This site is hardly indicative of how the rest of the weight lifting world trains though. So I still think 405 is not that difficult to get to, based on what I have done and seen. [/quote]
That’s just it though. You’d think the members of this site would be training harder than the general public in your average gym. I workout at a division 3 college with about 5,000 students. In the year I’ve been working out there, I’ve seen a 405 bench one time. These kids stop what they’re doing just to watch me bench 3 plates. At my commercial gym I see it more often but it’s always by guys over 25. Also according to your posts, you never actually benched 405 despite you saying it’s not that difficult.
I’m curious though. How many years of training would you expect someone weighing above 200 to hit 405?
Prof. X- I think you’ll enjoy this. I can’t remember if I read it on this site or EliteFTS but anyways, this guy needed to add like 30 pounds to his bench and he had something like 3 weeks to do it. He just ate a fuckton put on some weight- and made the gain on his bench. I don’t know about anyone else but bench seems to be the most sensitive to body weight changes, meaning if you put on 20 pounds (which i doubt would be all tricep/pec/delt)your bench WILL go up.
The reason I thought you’d like this because it is kind of scientific proof that you must become larger to become stronger and vice versa. Kinda smacks you in the face, don’t it?
[quote]Therizza wrote:
Prof. X- I think you’ll enjoy this. I can’t remember if I read it on this site or EliteFTS but anyways, this guy needed to add like 30 pounds to his bench and he had something like 3 weeks to do it. He just ate a fuckton put on some weight- and made the gain on his bench. I don’t know about anyone else but bench seems to be the most sensitive to body weight changes, meaning if you put on 20 pounds (which i doubt would be all tricep/pec/delt)your bench WILL go up.
The reason I thought you’d like this because it is kind of scientific proof that you must become larger to become stronger and vice versa. Kinda smacks you in the face, don’t it?[/quote]
Oh, I know. I also know that the main reason most of these guys will NEVER reach that point is because they are afraid to lose an ab in the process.
We won’t see many guys ever get that strong as long as so many are stuck in that “abz and nothing else” mentality. You can add the guys who seem to think they can “slow gain” their way to hugeness to that group as well.
No, hitting 405 may not be hard…if you train balls to the wall and aren’t afraid to put the weight on. Otherwise, the rest of us who CAN will just keep pointing out at all of the people who “plan to one day” but never get there.