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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]deadlift655 wrote:

I understood his statement. I’m not sure why their are so few of them. It does back up your claim that few actually train for strength. This site is hardly indicative of how the rest of the weight lifting world trains though. So I still think 405 is not that difficult to get to, based on what I have done and seen. [/quote]

That’s just it though. You’d think the members of this site would be training harder than the general public in your average gym. I workout at a division 3 college with about 5,000 students. In the year I’ve been working out there, I’ve seen a 405 bench one time. These kids stop what they’re doing just to watch me bench 3 plates. At my commercial gym I see it more often but it’s always by guys over 25. Also according to your posts, you never actually benched 405 despite you saying it’s not that difficult.

I’m curious though. How many years of training would you expect someone weighing above 200 to hit 405?[/quote]

With all of these people acting like “TBT” and “starting strength” are necessities…and all of this talk about how us “meatheads” don’t know what we are talking about, where are all of these scientific geniuses who have figured out the easy way to get huge?

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]deadlift655 wrote:

I understood his statement. I’m not sure why their are so few of them. It does back up your claim that few actually train for strength. This site is hardly indicative of how the rest of the weight lifting world trains though. So I still think 405 is not that difficult to get to, based on what I have done and seen. [/quote]

That’s just it though. You’d think the members of this site would be training harder than the general public in your average gym. I workout at a division 3 college with about 5,000 students. In the year I’ve been working out there, I’ve seen a 405 bench one time. These kids stop what they’re doing just to watch me bench 3 plates. At my commercial gym I see it more often but it’s always by guys over 25. Also according to your posts, you never actually benched 405 despite you saying it’s not that difficult.

I’m curious though. How many years of training would you expect someone weighing above 200 to hit 405?[/quote]

Your right. They should be training harder, but this site is very small in the grand scheme of things.
You are also right, I have not actually benched 405. I don’t like to take credit for lifts I have not done, so I tossed out my other lifts to give you some idea.
So here’s the deal, I’m doing 5-3-1 right now, and making phenomenal progress. According to the 1rm max calculators, the lowest my max can be is 415. The highest is 445. When I complete the next three weeks of training, I wont start another 4 weeks without maxing out first. I like to record things and actually have my lifts available for me to view, so I will add it to the video I already have.
To answer your question, it should not take you more than 5 years, 5 serious years, assuming you are lean at over 200lbs. Most of the guys who were benching 405 at the State meet in the lighter weight classes were lean. The heavyweights were mostly overweight to some degree.
I’m not taking credit away from 405 being a good deal of weight. I just don’t think it is as impossible as some make it out to be. I still respect the guys that can do it.

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26 right now…

Hit 405 at the end of my junior year of college, I was 22 at the time weighing around 240.

We had guys (mostly DL and OL) hitting in the low to mid 500’s, it was very impressive. Most were Polynesians and weighing in the upper 200’s to low 300’s.

To be honest I don’t care about flat bench press anymore, all my time goes into incline bench press. But for most of you trying to hit this goal, best of luck. It really is quite a good feeling. Strengthening my tri’s and back helped me a lot to reach this goal, bench press really requires a lot of overall upper body strength.

Good luck.

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[quote]deadlift655 wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]deadlift655 wrote:

I understood his statement. I’m not sure why their are so few of them. It does back up your claim that few actually train for strength. This site is hardly indicative of how the rest of the weight lifting world trains though. So I still think 405 is not that difficult to get to, based on what I have done and seen. [/quote]

That’s just it though. You’d think the members of this site would be training harder than the general public in your average gym. I workout at a division 3 college with about 5,000 students. In the year I’ve been working out there, I’ve seen a 405 bench one time. These kids stop what they’re doing just to watch me bench 3 plates. At my commercial gym I see it more often but it’s always by guys over 25. Also according to your posts, you never actually benched 405 despite you saying it’s not that difficult.

I’m curious though. How many years of training would you expect someone weighing above 200 to hit 405?[/quote]

Your right. They should be training harder, but this site is very small in the grand scheme of things.
You are also right, I have not actually benched 405. I don’t like to take credit for lifts I have not done, so I tossed out my other lifts to give you some idea.
So here’s the deal, I’m doing 5-3-1 right now, and making phenomenal progress. According to the 1rm max calculators, the lowest my max can be is 415. The highest is 445. When I complete the next three weeks of training, I wont start another 4 weeks without maxing out first. I like to record things and actually have my lifts available for me to view, so I will add it to the video I already have.
To answer your question, it should not take you more than 5 years, 5 serious years, assuming you are lean at over 200lbs. Most of the guys who were benching 405 at the State meet in the lighter weight classes were lean. The heavyweights were mostly overweight to some degree.
I’m not taking credit away from 405 being a good deal of weight. I just don’t think it is as impossible as some make it out to be. I still respect the guys that can do it.[/quote]

No one said it is impossible. We said almost NONE of you guys can do it when many of us HAD done it by the age of 23. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?

Most of you will NEVER be able to move that much weight because you don’t even have the drive to pull it off.

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[quote]vikingrob wrote:
26 right now…

Hit 405 at the end of my junior year of college, I was 22 at the time weighing around 240.

We had guys (mostly DL and OL) hitting in the low to mid 500’s, it was very impressive. Most were Polynesians and weighing in the upper 200’s to low 300’s.

To be honest I don’t care about flat bench press anymore, all my time goes into incline bench press. But for most of you trying to hit this goal, best of luck. It really is quite a good feeling. Strengthening my tri’s and back helped me a lot to reach this goal, bench press really requires a lot of overall upper body strength.

Good luck.[/quote]

Cool, that makes 4 whole people on this entire forum.

How many people post here?

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I just turned 18 and I’m working on 300(at 270), if this thread is still around when I hit 405 in a year or two, I’ll definitely let Mr.X know.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]vikingrob wrote:
26 right now…

Hit 405 at the end of my junior year of college, I was 22 at the time weighing around 240.

We had guys (mostly DL and OL) hitting in the low to mid 500’s, it was very impressive. Most were Polynesians and weighing in the upper 200’s to low 300’s.

To be honest I don’t care about flat bench press anymore, all my time goes into incline bench press. But for most of you trying to hit this goal, best of luck. It really is quite a good feeling. Strengthening my tri’s and back helped me a lot to reach this goal, bench press really requires a lot of overall upper body strength.

Good luck.[/quote]

Cool, that makes 4 whole people on this entire forum.

How many people post here?[/quote]

last i checked what you bench doesnt make you a good bodybuilder, and i thought this site was about bodybuilding?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]deadlift655 wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]deadlift655 wrote:

I understood his statement. I’m not sure why their are so few of them. It does back up your claim that few actually train for strength. This site is hardly indicative of how the rest of the weight lifting world trains though. So I still think 405 is not that difficult to get to, based on what I have done and seen. [/quote]

That’s just it though. You’d think the members of this site would be training harder than the general public in your average gym. I workout at a division 3 college with about 5,000 students. In the year I’ve been working out there, I’ve seen a 405 bench one time. These kids stop what they’re doing just to watch me bench 3 plates. At my commercial gym I see it more often but it’s always by guys over 25. Also according to your posts, you never actually benched 405 despite you saying it’s not that difficult.

I’m curious though. How many years of training would you expect someone weighing above 200 to hit 405?[/quote]

Your right. They should be training harder, but this site is very small in the grand scheme of things.
You are also right, I have not actually benched 405. I don’t like to take credit for lifts I have not done, so I tossed out my other lifts to give you some idea.
So here’s the deal, I’m doing 5-3-1 right now, and making phenomenal progress. According to the 1rm max calculators, the lowest my max can be is 415. The highest is 445. When I complete the next three weeks of training, I wont start another 4 weeks without maxing out first. I like to record things and actually have my lifts available for me to view, so I will add it to the video I already have.
To answer your question, it should not take you more than 5 years, 5 serious years, assuming you are lean at over 200lbs. Most of the guys who were benching 405 at the State meet in the lighter weight classes were lean. The heavyweights were mostly overweight to some degree.
I’m not taking credit away from 405 being a good deal of weight. I just don’t think it is as impossible as some make it out to be. I still respect the guys that can do it.[/quote]

No one said it is impossible. We said almost NONE of you guys can do it when many of us HAD done it by the age of 23. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?

Most of you will NEVER be able to move that much weight because you don’t even have the drive to pull it off.
[/quote]
At that point, I was not really referring to you. I’m talking about the guys with longer arms, who make it sound like they should not try to get there due to their structures. I have longer arms, and the gains I have been making on the bench have finally gotten my arms to grow.
So I am very pleased for the moment.

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[quote]tubesteakboogie wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]vikingrob wrote:
26 right now…

Hit 405 at the end of my junior year of college, I was 22 at the time weighing around 240.

We had guys (mostly DL and OL) hitting in the low to mid 500’s, it was very impressive. Most were Polynesians and weighing in the upper 200’s to low 300’s.

To be honest I don’t care about flat bench press anymore, all my time goes into incline bench press. But for most of you trying to hit this goal, best of luck. It really is quite a good feeling. Strengthening my tri’s and back helped me a lot to reach this goal, bench press really requires a lot of overall upper body strength.

Good luck.[/quote]

Cool, that makes 4 whole people on this entire forum.

How many people post here?[/quote]

last i checked what you bench doesnt make you a good bodybuilder, and i thought this site was about bodybuilding?
[/quote]

I don’t see where you are going with this.

How many top bodybuilders do you know that can’t bench 405? I don’t know of any.

Muscle is built off getting stronger, that is how it has always been and always will be. Don’t be under the notion that all powerlifters do is bench, deadlift and squat or all bodybuilders do is pure isolation movements. You would be surprised how similar routines some bodybuilders have to powerlifters and vice versa. While there are some big differences, they are still very similar.

If you don’t think benching 405 equates to a large, will developed muscular upper body, then you are sorely mistaken.

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Alright, just wanna say, this thread is an awesome and huge source of motivation. My bench right now is at 125lbs. Age 19.
I’ll struggle my way up to 405 before 23!

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erm…

(like I said before)
Minor Slap tears to both of my labrums have rendered it very painful for me to do flat barbell…

what would be the equivalent to the level of impressiveness (if you will) of a flat 405 on incline barbell? like 355? 365?

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prof x , just because you benched 405 before you where 23 — great … however swanning around this site dishing out ‘abuse’ to massage your ego doesnt make you the bigger man . Granted you are a monster and yes you did not mean to cause abuse with your statement but please respect peoples goals, use your standing on this site to advise in a is a less indimidating and dickhead’ish manner.

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[quote]chakademus wrote:
prof x , just because you benched 405 before you where 23 — great … however swanning around this site dishing out ‘abuse’ to massage your ego doesnt make you the bigger man . Granted you are a monster and yes you did not mean to cause abuse with your statement but please respect peoples goals, use your standing on this site to advise in a is a less indimidating and dickhead’ish manner.[/quote]

WHOOOSSH!!!

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[quote]Therizza wrote:
Prof. X- I think you’ll enjoy this. I can’t remember if I read it on this site or EliteFTS but anyways, this guy needed to add like 30 pounds to his bench and he had something like 3 weeks to do it. He just ate a fuckton put on some weight- and made the gain on his bench. I don’t know about anyone else but bench seems to be the most sensitive to body weight changes, meaning if you put on 20 pounds (which i doubt would be all tricep/pec/delt)your bench WILL go up.

The reason I thought you’d like this because it is kind of scientific proof that you must become larger to become stronger and vice versa. Kinda smacks you in the face, don’t it?[/quote]

i read that as well. i think someone challenged the guy to do it, sound familiar? the craziest bit was that he didn’t do any flat bench pressing during that time.

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is the premise of this thread that a good bench implies a strong person? Because it seems to me that a good bench just means a good bench.
How about overhead squats for reps, with BW on the bar?

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[quote]chakademus wrote:
prof x , just because you benched 405 before you where 23 — great … however swanning around this site dishing out ‘abuse’ to massage your ego doesnt make you the bigger man . Granted you are a monster and yes you did not mean to cause abuse with your statement but please respect peoples goals, use your standing on this site to advise in a is a less indimidating and dickhead’ish manner.[/quote]

You really don’t understand the point of this thread.

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[quote]Brazil wrote:
is the premise of this thread that a good bench implies a strong person? Because it seems to me that a good bench just means a good bench.
How about overhead squats for reps, with BW on the bar? [/quote]

did this make anyone else LOL?

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[quote]Brazil wrote:
is the premise of this thread that a good bench implies a strong person? Because it seems to me that a good bench just means a good bench.
How about overhead squats for reps, with BW on the bar? [/quote]

yeah 405 bench that doesn’t imply a strong person… they’re just good at benching ya know?

/sarcasm

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Usain Bolt isn’t a fast person, hes just a good sprinter ya kno?

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[quote]chakademus wrote:
prof x , just because you benched 405 before you where 23 — great … however swanning around this site dishing out ‘abuse’ to massage your ego doesnt make you the bigger man . Granted you are a monster and yes you did not mean to cause abuse with your statement but please respect peoples goals, use your standing on this site to advise in a is a less indimidating and dickhead’ish manner.[/quote]

The point of this thread is to inspire the young and unmotivated