[quote]JeffR wrote:
Did you miss the age 59 thing?
Or the aerobic numbers?
I’ll give you a buzz when you are that age and well see how you fare.
JeffR[/quote]
Wrong site to be proud of lack of muscle and praising cross country feats.
I am not impressed because I am not a GOP cheerleader nor am I a Bush cheerleader.
Sorry.
Those pulpit robes never get a break for the boy who cried hate.
Perfect example why politicans stink!
NJ and CT raised their estate tax (death tax) as a result of the federal government decreasing and planning to eliminate this tax.
F politicans and anyone who carries water for either party is a tool (i.e. you are being used and are a willing dope).
Two points:
Why is it that the people you really, truly wish heart attacks upon are in great shape?
Jusging from history, physical fitness does have quite a bit to do with excellence in the executive branch. It’s certainly not as if our greatest president was a chain-smoking, martini-swilling cripple.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Two points:
Why is it that the people you really, truly wish heart attacks upon are in great shape?
Jusging from history, physical fitness does have quite a bit to do with excellence in the executive branch. It’s certainly not as if our greatest president was a chain-smoking, martini-swilling cripple.[/quote]
hehe. What greatest president are you thinking of? (I think I know)
[quote]vroom wrote:
Zeb, are you trying out for the position of my nanny?[/quote]
is that some sort of sick fantasy? ewwwww
Wow you acknowledged God…well sort of. Other than taht another worthless paragraph.
Oh I see…thank you for explaining. Silly me I thought it was because you despise the man. I was basing that on all of the name calling you have done in the past. Now I see it has nothing to do with that…you are just not interested…Okay.
More fantasizing?
vroom in his natural language trash talking…and personal attacks.
You are on a name calling roll…darn it’s the end of the post. well you still have one more line let’s see where you go with it…
There you go! You went out with a bang!
Try losing the hate brother. It’s a wonderful world out there with good men on both sides of the political fence. And even if you do disagree with one side politically you can still acknowledge a tremendous effort by someone whom you don’t agree with…if that, is you, are mature enough to do so.
Does this warrant more name calling and childish antics on your part? Probably so…However, hopefully for not much longer 
Zeb,
I did acknowledge Bush, I offered kudos to the man.
Why don’t you man up and take a look at your own behavior in this regard. I am tired of you following me around and telling me how I should behave.
It’s too bad you are too focused on your hatred of me to see past what are in effect minor slights added to my posts in order to make them interesting.
There are important parts to what I say Zeb, but you always focus on the tripe. That’s too bad also.
I’m never going to be pushed into a style of behavior that you like. T-Nation is not about trying to force others to behave in a way that you consider nice.
Act in a respectful way and I will show you respect. Act foolish, and I will call you a fool. Focus on minutia instead of important points and I will call you silly names.
I know you will pick and choose to look at only the parts of this post that reinforce your fanatic belief system, but hopefully it is pretty clear to everyone else.
You have assigned yourself to be my mentor, to police my behavior, even going so far as to attempt to have my ability to express myself as I see fit squelched.
Never, and I mean never, will I give in to your vile little tactics.
Tell me how it is. Make me see that I am incorrect in my beliefs. Show me that Bush is somehow worthy of the idolatry that you heap upon him. Do something worthwhile, instead of following me around and bitching at me.
I can’t believe the negativity and hatred that you continually express – and then have the nerve to spring the hate word on others simply because they disagree with you.
You are pitiful. Begone demon.
Pot, meet kettle…
[quote]ZEB wrote:
is that some sort of sick fantasy? ewwwww[/quote]
Oh, is this some type of personal attack based on implied sexual preference?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Wow you acknowledged God…well sort of. Other than taht another worthless paragraph.[/quote]
This wouldn’t be meant to be insulting would it?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Oh I see…thank you for explaining. Silly me I thought it was because you despise the man. I was basing that on all of the name calling you have done in the past. Now I see it has nothing to do with that…you are just not interested…Okay.[/quote]
Mischaracterizing, par for the course. I don’t despise the man. He has done nothing personally to me to warrant such emotion on my part. I do not respect him nor idolize him as you do, and that is my right.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
More fantasizing? [/quote]
More homophobic insults?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
vroom in his natural language trash talking…and personal attacks. [/quote]
Wait, I think this is a trash talking insult. Oh, pot, perhaps you are actually the kettle too?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Try losing the hate brother. It’s a wonderful world out there with good men on both sides of the political fence. And even if you do disagree with one side politically you can still acknowledge a tremendous effort by someone whom you don’t agree with…if that, is you, are mature enough to do so. [/quote]
Kettle, have you met pot?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Does this warrant more name calling and childish antics on your part? Probably so…However, hopefully for not much longer :)[/quote]
Not for much longer? What, are you planning to have me banned or something? I guess my comments are so dangerous to your belief system that I need to be censored?
You may not believe it Zeb, but you are one step away from Jerffy with respect to your ability to post rationally around here. You may want to examine your own tactics before casting stones at others.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Zeb,
I did acknowledge Bush, I offered kudos to the man.[/quote]
Wow…I must have missed that…was it after or before the “yawn?”
Following you around? I think you might have that the other way around. I posted on this thread with no mention of you. You then posted on 8-1 8:08 (to be exact) and mentioned me. Here is what you stated:
“Well golly Zeb, you must be some sort of precognitive genius. Perhaps you can get people to start worshipping you as well?”
I consider the above pretty typical of your childish posts. It was totally unwarranted as I never mentioned you in my first post.
You initiated the first contact, not me. When you follow me around and attack me you have to expect that I will point that out…make sense to you?
[quote]It’s too bad you are too focused on your hatred of me to see past what are in effect minor slights added to my posts in order to make them interesting.
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First off, I don’t hate you, how could anyone hate you? Secondly, your minor slights are no more than childish behavior and personal attacks. Honestly no better than some teen who has issues and uses the Internet to vent. It gets old…very fast.
Your “important parts” are usually overshadowed by your childish language and personal attacks. An observation I am not alone in making, I might add!
I agree, but it’s mainly about dispensing good quality information in order to sell very high quality supplements. And when certain people lower the standard of debate that does not in fact help the site. Time will tell how those who are in charge will react to your constant fits of childish rage.
I think you need to take your own advice and SOON!
Yes I am quite the fanatic…A married middle aged guy with kids who likes to train and goes to church once a weeek…I’m nuts look out! LOL. What is clear (by this thread) is that you will never give any credit to anyone whom you disagree with politically. Since you have begun your childish behavior you have lost plenty of credibility. Can you even remember the good debates that used to be on this very forum?
[quote]You have assigned yourself to be my mentor, to police my behavior, even going so far as to attempt to have my ability to express myself as I see fit squelched.
Never, and I mean never, will I give in to your vile little tactics.[/quote]
Um…what exactly are you trying to say here? Ha ha. Do you think trying to raise the level of debate on the political forum is a vile thing? I think it would attract more people to the political threads. However, as long as you are around calling people “ass clowns” and telling them to “get a clue” I think that lowers the standard. Is that fanatical and evil of me? Oh …so sorry.
Again it is you who brought my name up on this thread. I was not addressing you and had no intention of doing so.
You are using the Clintonesque defense, I like that. You attack people and call them childish names, run people into the ground daily and when I tell you to cool it and drop the hate you accuse me of being hateful. LOL- good one vroom! But, there are far to many around here that know you and it won’t wash pal…Anyone can check my thousands of posts there are none…not even one that uses personal attacks and childish name calling…that is vintage vroom…again good try!
Are you okay?
[quote] vroom stated
You may not believe it Zeb, but you are one step away from Jerffy with respect to your ability to post rationally around here.[/quote]
Another one of your tactics. You go off the deep end with personal attacks and childish behavior and then accuse me of not posting rationally. I told you before that would only work if those who have been following the forum didn’t know you from your many posts
You may not believe it vroom but those who have been around for a while know exactly where you are coming from. Politically you are an ultra liberal. Most of your posts on the political forum are seething with hatred for this President and anyone who agrees with him. Would you like to see some of your posts vroom?
They are filled with name calling and hatred. You lower the standard of this forum and as long as you continue to name call and carry on I will be here to point it out. Don’t like it? Learn to live with it my friend
Two points:
You have plenty of your own insidious tactics, such as misquoting people and micharacterizing people. Neither are designed to raise the level of debate.
The nature of debate would be so much enhanced, if that is actually your goal, if you simply responded to my posts by discussing issues. Attack me back, or not, at will. Nobody, probably including both yourself and myself is really interested in discussing posting styles ad naseum, but you bring it up every chance you get and focus on it. In my posts, my style is style, surrounding what I have to say. There is a difference.
Repent… sinner!
Only if you’ve learned how to quote instead of make things up by taking things out of context… what a fiasco that turned into, do you recall?
Anyhow, I’m done talking about you talking about me and boring the hell out of everyone on this thread. You’ll have to bring down another thread by focusing on my behavior there.
Typical.
vroom:
All you have to do is stop the personal attacks. Why is that so difficult? I am serious when I say that I would like to attract others to the political forum. But who would want join a forum where people are being called “ass clowns?” Why don’t you try to build up the site instead inadvertently tearing it down?