Is there a certain amount of weight you should gain when Bulking ?
For example, like a pound a week, or two pounds a month ?
[quote]bnkNando wrote:
Is there a certain amount of weight you should gain when Bulking ?
For example, like a pound a week, or two pounds a month ?[/quote]
That depends on what you see in the mirror and the weights used in the gym.
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit.
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat.
It varies from person to person. As a rule of thumb, assess progress once per month, and make adjustments IF needed. Doing so every week or two is typically too often, so you’d be more likely to constantly change things at the slightest whims, when what you were doing before might’ve been working fine.
If you don’t assess progress often enough, there’s a good chance you’ll end up stagnant or fat for long periods of time.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
So, you choose to be fat and disgusting?
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
So, you choose to be fat and disgusting?[/quote]
Lol
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
So, you choose to be fat and disgusting?[/quote]
So, instead of contributing something useful to what started out as an interesting discussion, even if RV is involved, you chose to open the door for yet another shit storm in the bodybuilding forum.
This shit is tired.
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
Re-quoted for emphasis
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
So, you choose to be fat and disgusting?[/quote]
So, instead of contributing something useful to what started out as an interesting discussion, even if RV is involved, you chose to open the door for yet another shit storm in the bodybuilding forum.
This shit is tired.
[/quote]
Ebomb laughed…out loud mind you so,WIN for me.
Secondly, how is this interesting? It has been discussed a ridiculous amount of times and we always get the same answers. No one can tell yo how much you will gain weekly, monthly, yearly because everyone is different. So, you up you calories and look for the visual changes and strength/size gains.
Gaining to much fat? drop calories a bit, not gaining? up calories a bit. If you can not figure that out, perhaps watching TV is a better hobby.
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
So, you choose to be fat and disgusting?[/quote]
So, instead of contributing something useful to what started out as an interesting discussion, even if RV is involved, you chose to open the door for yet another shit storm in the bodybuilding forum.
This shit is tired.
[/quote]
Ebomb laughed…out loud mind you so,WIN for me.
Secondly, how is this interesting? It has been discussed a ridiculous amount of times and we always get the same answers. No one can tell yo how much you will gain weekly, monthly, yearly because everyone is different. So, you up you calories and look for the visual changes and strength/size gains. Gaining to much fat? drop calories a bit, not gaining? up calories a bit. If you can not figure that out, perhaps watching TV is a better hobby.[/quote]
LOL
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
What’s this? A roguevampire post not immediately followed by Achilles of war? I’m disappointed.
[quote]anonanon wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
What’s this? A roguevampire post not immediately followed by Achilles of war? I’m disappointed.
[/quote]
He’s done trolling for a while
i have upped my calories by around 300-400 daily for 3 weeks, lifting heavy 5 times a week and havent gained any weight. I have a fast metabolism, which is making this more difficult. My strength has been increasing alot ever since i have upped the cals and carbs, guess im going to try 500-600 more cals ?
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
I think that you need to be careful saying “gain muscle and lose fat at the same time”. I think that when people claim to put on muscle and lose fat simultaneously it is more a result of disordered eating (or on purpose if they time their food intake right).
By this I mean that maybe a person trains 4 days out of the week and are really strict on those days and they were in a caloric surplus by 500 kcal. Then let’s say in the other 3 days they under consume their needs by 700 kcal. That would mean that the person under under consumed their kcals by 100 on the week, but since the bulk of protein synthesis has already occurred within somewhere between 12-24 hours after exercise, it is likely that the under consumption of kcals on the next day resulted in more mobilization of fat instead of breakdown of muscle (provided they weren’t running a marathon or under consuming protein by a lot).
But it would make sense that the person who was in a caloric surplus everyday would probably gain more muscle due to the fact that protein synthesis rates are increased up to 48 hours after a training session.
So I guess you can say that on a small scale a person can gain muscle and lose fat in the same week. But saying “gain muscle and lose fat at the same time” implies that they would be simultaneously synthesizing muscle proteins and mobilizing fat at the same time, which doesn’t make much sense.
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
So, you choose to be fat and disgusting?[/quote]
So, instead of contributing something useful to what started out as an interesting discussion, even if RV is involved, you chose to open the door for yet another shit storm in the bodybuilding forum.
This shit is tired.
[/quote]
Ebomb laughed…out loud mind you so,WIN for me.
Secondly, how is this interesting? It has been discussed a ridiculous amount of times and we always get the same answers. No one can tell yo how much you will gain weekly, monthly, yearly because everyone is different. So, you up you calories and look for the visual changes and strength/size gains.
Gaining to much fat? drop calories a bit, not gaining? up calories a bit. If you can not figure that out, perhaps watching TV is a better hobby.[/quote]
You’re right. You win the Internet.
Congrats!
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^this.
Some people will gain faster, some will gain slower. Just start out with a moderate caloric surplus (300-500 kcals) and see how your body responds. If you’re not putting on weight after a couple weeks then bump up the calories a bit.
When your body does start gaining weight just make sure you’re not getting sloppy. Some fat gain is almost inevitable but just make sure you’re not gaining a ton, if so back off the calories a bit. [/quote]
This belief has got to stop. “fat gain is almost inevitable” that is complete and utter bull crap. You can gain muscle without gaining any fat at all. you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. yes, you have to fine tune your diet, but if you give your muscles what they need but not go over that, you will gain muscle without adding fat. [/quote]
Do you know that by saying “SOME fat gain is ALMOST INEVITABLE…” I acknowledged that you can gain muscle without gaining fat?
If I said “fat gain IS inevitable…” then your comment would apply, but it does not.
It all depends on the person. Can some people gain muscle while not gaining an ounce of fat? Sure. Is that a reality for most people out there? Probably not.
It’s called a BULK for a reason, RV. It’s generally assumed that some fat gain may be part of it.
Good thread. Very original.
-Zep
[quote]bnkNando wrote:
i have upped my calories by around 300-400 daily for 3 weeks, lifting heavy 5 times a week and havent gained any weight. I have a fast metabolism, which is making this more difficult. My strength has been increasing alot ever since i have upped the cals and carbs, guess im going to try 500-600 more cals ?[/quote]
So you upped your calories by 300-400 daily for 3 weeks…
3 weeks x7 days=21 days
21 daysx300 cals upped per day= at least 6300 if you were eating 0 calories before, which I’m 99.5% sure you weren’t…
I think you said it wrong. How many are you at a day right now?