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1001

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

  1. fat helps leverages
  2. fat lubes joints
    [/quote]
    Risk factors aside I think fat does help with stuff like that. There have been lots of powerlifters who go on a kick to get super lean and end up injuring shit left and right. Happened to one of my training partners :([/quote]

BUT WHERE ARE THE STUDIES TO PROVE THIS???

I DEMAND STUDIES AND SHIT!!![/quote]
Lab results from the fecal samples are in[/quote]

Autopsy or GTFO.

1002

[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
I don’t think X gets it after all this time. The truth is, even though nobody wants to come out and say it, is that all the guys giving X shit all the time and refusing to give him respect act that way because they don’t like him. Bottom line: Many guys on this site do not like Professor X. Why? There seem to be a great many reasons.

I know X will say this isn’t a popularity contest and talk about how people liking him has nothing to do with any of this, but it has everything to do with it. X always rants about how he should get more respect for what he has accomplished or how he doesn’t understand how he gets “attacked personally”, etc. etc. etc. The truth is, as long as X is being ignorant to most of the posters in this forum they will continue to despise him and, as a result, will refuse to accept his input or give him any respect, whether he deserves it or not.

When someone such as Stu can see that, I don’t see how it can be argued, when Stu seems to really try and be objective and fair in most cases. Also, I have to chuckle at X always talking about how he replies in a professional manner. No, not even close. Just the other day he was ridiculing someone about how there was no way they were a medical student given how they were typing. Or, when he was telling people they could learn more if they shut the fuck up. Or, when he was telling people that they add nothing to these forums. Really professional all around. Yeah, right.[/quote]

Bingo

1003

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

  1. fat helps leverages
  2. fat lubes joints
    [/quote]
    Risk factors aside I think fat does help with stuff like that. There have been lots of powerlifters who go on a kick to get super lean and end up injuring shit left and right. Happened to one of my training partners :([/quote]

BUT WHERE ARE THE STUDIES TO PROVE THIS???

I DEMAND STUDIES AND SHIT!!![/quote]
Lab results from the fecal samples are in[/quote]

Autopsy or GTFO.[/quote]
GIT FAW!!!

1004

Still waiting for proof that moderate body fat percentage alone is a “risk factor” for "heart disease, hyperlipidemia, and in some cases, diminished psychological and social well being. "

Please note that this does not equal “overweight”.

1005

I are profeshunil.

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bwilliamsr89 wrote:
I generally find X annoying and argumentative, but why the fuck is everyone so willing to argue semantics in this case. Let’s just get back to the stuff that is entertaining at least. [/quote]

This is all they do. As if it was ever different?

They spend hours literally lying and making shit up just to argue even if they really agree with what was written…and then some of you keep cheering it on…[/quote]

Because you’ve done it for 11 years and people are finally tired of your BS. That’s why it gets cheered on. It’s like seeing the school bully finally get his ass kicked, or the loudmouth, shit-talking drunk getting punched in the face.

It did used to be different in that people used to simply tolerate your attitude. It didn’t have to be this way. You made your bed now you have to lie in it.

[/quote]

Ahh, so in your twisted head, you are going to act in a way you claim you hate?

You do realize what a hypocrite is, right?[/quote]

Absolutely. But the kicker is I only do it to you. An eye for an eye. You, on the other hand, are a complete dick to everyone that disagrees with anything you have to say.

Stop being a prick and you will stop seeing prickish posts from me to you. I’m not going to hold my breath.[/quote]

LOl at this. Apparently telling you the truth is “being a prick” to you.

You can rant about how lean you are, but if I ever mention I have more muscle than you, then that is me acting “superior”.

Got it.

You guys are a waste and detriment to this forum if this is all you are about.

For real.[/quote]

Wrong. The “truth” has nothing to do with it.

THIS is being a prick:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope what you just wrote doesn’t make sense to even you.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Thank you for that. I have “doctor” in front of my name but there is always basic shit about biology that I missed. I shall credit that for my weight gain.
[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am a DMD, the type who uses a scalpel and sutures on an almost daily basis.
[/quote]

THIS is being a prick:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Or more recently, the famous pre-fatigue thread where you completely got the concept wrong, refused to admit you were wrong, but later changed you’re mind without offering an apology.

first…

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to “pre-fatigue” my chest on CHEST DAY???[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess that explains why mine keeps growing.
I’m doing it wrong.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You usually only pre-fatigue a muscle if it is interfering or becoming the optimal mover in an exercise when the goal is another muscle group. [/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is WHY you pre-exhaust a muscle group…so it fails first and doesn’t interfere with the TARGET muscle group.

That is why pre-exhausting chest on CHEST DAY makes little sense.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to weaken my chest WHEN TRAINING MY CHEST IN PRIORITY??
[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am laughing at how the definition got switched.
[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Now mind you, your own personal experience shows this to be the case…but somehow I got it wrong.

I know this term may be used now in fitness sites, but in bodybuilding historically years ago, I think it meant getting a muscle that fires first when you don’t want it to to tire first.[/quote]

then later…

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am also NOT disagreeing with the other concept if anyone is still arguing that for some reason.
[/quote][/quote]

THIS is being a prick:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

Reminds people constantly he’s a doctor.

Brags constantly about his education.

Asks people if they need him to repeat what he just wrote.

Asks people if he needs to write it out in crayon.

Asks people who argue with him in multiple threads if they’re gay.

Asks people if English is their first language.

Constantly tries to convince everyone to accept the inflated image he has of himself.

Is constantly sarcastic and condescending.

But I suppose none of the above is being a prick. It’s just pointing out when people are wrong.[/quote]

Let me end this by quoting the most famous asshole in all of T-Nation:

Let me know if I need to repeat that again lest that basic message be lost again.

  • Professor X[/quote]
1006

Still waiting for proof that moderate body fat percentage alone is a “risk factor” for "heart disease, hyperlipidemia, and in some cases, diminished psychological and social well being. "

Please note that this does not equal “overweight”.

1007

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

  1. fat helps leverages
  2. fat lubes joints
    [/quote]
    Risk factors aside I think fat does help with stuff like that. There have been lots of powerlifters who go on a kick to get super lean and end up injuring shit left and right. Happened to one of my training partners :([/quote]

This is a known fact. [/quote]

Still waiting for proof that this is a KNOW FACT.

Cite studies…I’ll wait.

1008

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

  1. fat helps leverages
  2. fat lubes joints
    [/quote]
    Risk factors aside I think fat does help with stuff like that. There have been lots of powerlifters who go on a kick to get super lean and end up injuring shit left and right. Happened to one of my training partners :([/quote]

This is a known fact. [/quote]

Still waiting for proof that this is a KNOW FACT.

Cite studies…I’ll wait.[/quote]

http://radiology.rsna.org/content/222/2/419.full

Maybe this study will help show you the fat pads associated with the elbow joint.

What exactly do you want to know beyond that?

I can tell you as a doctor that as fat is lost, it is also los around these joints which can decrease lubrication.

1009

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

  1. fat helps leverages
  2. fat lubes joints
    [/quote]
    Risk factors aside I think fat does help with stuff like that. There have been lots of powerlifters who go on a kick to get super lean and end up injuring shit left and right. Happened to one of my training partners :([/quote]

This is a known fact. [/quote]

Still waiting for proof that this is a KNOW FACT.

Cite studies…I’ll wait.[/quote]

http://radiology.rsna.org/content/222/2/419.full

Maybe this study will help show you the fat pads associated with the elbow joint.

What exactly do you want to know beyond that?

I can tell you as a doctor that as fat is lost, it is also los around these joints which can decrease lubrication.[/quote]

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.

1010

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.[/quote]

Right. Because you think there would be studies done specifically on contest ready bodybuilders? They would be the only ones getting lean enough to see this…which is why taking it that far as PERSONAL EXPERIENCE relies on subjective reports…which I also provided.

Edit: The link to the discussion of a bodybuilder’s prep was deleted by the mods because it linked to another website.

I can pm that if wanted.

Simply put, it is a known fact that as you lose body fat, it is lost all over…including joints.

1011

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.[/quote]

Right. Because you think there would be studies done specifically on contest ready bodybuilders? They would be the only ones getting lean enough to see this…which is why taking it that far as PERSONAL EXPERIENCE relies on subjective reports…which I also provided.[/quote]

Well you were CALLING for studies specific to bodybuilding…only seems fair you provide the same for your broscience theories.

1012

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.[/quote]

Right. Because you think there would be studies done specifically on contest ready bodybuilders? They would be the only ones getting lean enough to see this…which is why taking it that far as PERSONAL EXPERIENCE relies on subjective reports…which I also provided.[/quote]

Well you were CALLING for studies specific to bodybuilding…only seems fair you provide the same for your broscience theories.[/quote]

You are wrong again.

The statement, "moderate body fat percentage alone is a “risk factor” for "heart disease, hyperlipidemia, and in some cases, diminished psychological and social well being. "

Has NOTHING directly to do with bodybuilding alone. He made a general statement about body fat.

1013

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.[/quote]

Right. Because you think there would be studies done specifically on contest ready bodybuilders? They would be the only ones getting lean enough to see this…which is why taking it that far as PERSONAL EXPERIENCE relies on subjective reports…which I also provided.[/quote]

Well you were CALLING for studies specific to bodybuilding…only seems fair you provide the same for your broscience theories.[/quote]

Bro, he’s a DDS. Just trust him.

1014

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.[/quote]

Right. Because you think there would be studies done specifically on contest ready bodybuilders? They would be the only ones getting lean enough to see this…which is why taking it that far as PERSONAL EXPERIENCE relies on subjective reports…which I also provided.[/quote]

Well you were CALLING for studies specific to bodybuilding…only seems fair you provide the same for your broscience theories.[/quote]

Bro, he’s a DDS. Just trust him.[/quote]

My bad…I AM AN F-B-I AGENT!!!

/trust me and shit

1015

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.[/quote]

Right. Because you think there would be studies done specifically on contest ready bodybuilders? They would be the only ones getting lean enough to see this…which is why taking it that far as PERSONAL EXPERIENCE relies on subjective reports…which I also provided.[/quote]

Well you were CALLING for studies specific to bodybuilding…only seems fair you provide the same for your broscience theories.[/quote]

Bro, he’s a DDS. Just trust him.[/quote]

This is all you have to offer.

That’s sad, kid.

After this many months of this…this is all you have.

Seriously…that’s not a good thing, dude.

1016

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.[/quote]

Right. Because you think there would be studies done specifically on contest ready bodybuilders? They would be the only ones getting lean enough to see this…which is why taking it that far as PERSONAL EXPERIENCE relies on subjective reports…which I also provided.[/quote]

Well you were CALLING for studies specific to bodybuilding…only seems fair you provide the same for your broscience theories.[/quote]

Bro, he’s a DDS. Just trust him.[/quote]

My bad…I AM AN F-B-I AGENT!!!

/trust me and shit[/quote]

You are wrong again.

The statement, "moderate body fat percentage alone is a “risk factor” for "heart disease, hyperlipidemia, and in some cases, diminished psychological and social well being. "

Has NOTHING directly to do with bodybuilding alone. He made a general statement about body fat.

1017

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

Um no mention of bf levels in that post.

References fat levels in joints…no correspondence cited.

Good try tho.[/quote]

Right. Because you think there would be studies done specifically on contest ready bodybuilders? They would be the only ones getting lean enough to see this…which is why taking it that far as PERSONAL EXPERIENCE relies on subjective reports…which I also provided.[/quote]

Well you were CALLING for studies specific to bodybuilding…only seems fair you provide the same for your broscience theories.[/quote]

Bro, he’s a DDS. Just trust him.[/quote]

My bad…I AM AN F-B-I AGENT!!!

/trust me and shit[/quote]

You are wrong again.

The statement, "moderate body fat percentage alone is a “risk factor” for "heart disease, hyperlipidemia, and in some cases, diminished psychological and social well being. "

Has NOTHING directly to do with bodybuilding alone. He made a general statement about body fat. [/quote]

We are on a Bodybuilding website (that may or may not give you supps to act like an ass to drive page views) in a discussion about bulking…he made the comment that being fat is a risk factor.

Explain how that is different from your broscience theory that fat helps leverages and lubes joints.

1018

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

We are on a Bodybuilding website (that may or may not give you supps to act like an ass to drive page views) in a discussion about bulking…he made the comment that being fat is a risk factor.

Explain how that is different from your broscience theory that fat helps leverages and lubes joints.[/quote]

Broscience? I went to school for this…which is why I knew about fat pads around joints and you didn’t. I guess that is why I know that fat is a lubricant for joints and you didn’t.

Once again, what exactly do you have to offer here? Because it damn sure isn’t your knowledge of the subject.

1019

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

We are on a Bodybuilding website (that may or may not give you supps to act like an ass to drive page views) in a discussion about bulking…he made the comment that being fat is a risk factor.

Explain how that is different from your broscience theory that fat helps leverages and lubes joints.[/quote]

Broscience? I went to school for this…
[/quote]

You went to school to learn how to bulk? MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

The paper you posted had NO INFORMATION relating to bodyfat levels and joint lubrication.

Damn you are one obtuse fella.

1020

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

We are on a Bodybuilding website (that may or may not give you supps to act like an ass to drive page views) in a discussion about bulking…he made the comment that being fat is a risk factor.

Explain how that is different from your broscience theory that fat helps leverages and lubes joints.[/quote]

Broscience? I went to school for this…
[/quote]

You went to school to learn how to bulk? MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

The paper you posted had NO INFORMATION relating to bodyfat levels and joint lubrication.

Damn you are one obtuse fella.[/quote]

Obtuse is what you are being here.

There is no point is continuing this with you.

You are bringing this board down with this shit.

You will not find many specific studies done on COMPE6TING BODYBUILDERS.

Fat as a lubricant to joints is COMMON KNOWLEDGE in the medical community.