[quote]josh86 wrote:
Damn X. 9-10 sets…that would make me want to kill myself. Props to you on that, lol.[/quote]
What’s funny is watching me walk out of the gym after that. My legs are usually so pumped I can’t walk straight. I usually only start with one or two 45lbs plates a side and then add a plate each set. It’s cool watching facial expressions go from, “see, he’s not that strong” to “damn, that’s a lot of weight”.
What do you guys think of this:
Front Squats: 3x8
Hack Squats:3x10
Smith Back Squats: 2x15
Leg Press: 2x20
Leg Extension: 3xfailure
Is this too much?
I was thinking of doing the smith machine squats timed, like 2 minutes of no-stops squats or something like that, i remember doing something like this awhile ago, and it destroyed my legs, verdict?
[quote]matso1236 wrote:
What do you guys think of this:
Front Squats: 3x8
Hack Squats:3x10
Smith Back Squats: 2x15
Leg Press: 2x20
Leg Extension: 3xfailure
Is this too much?
I was thinking of doing the smith machine squats timed, like 2 minutes of no-stops squats or something like that, i remember doing something like this awhile ago, and it destroyed my legs, verdict?[/quote]
Wait, so you guys just sit at home, throw some random variation of exercises, sets and reps on screen, and then ask if it is too much?
What happened to going to the gym and finding out if it is too much? What about seeing if your legs are growing and getting stronger from this?
Are you all looking for a crystal ball or big muscles because they canceled Ms. Cleo years ago?
You can’t skip trial and error no matter how many people you ask. That isn’t meant to be harsh, it is simply reality.
It is a ballistic leg press, the load increases as you push the weight further out, so the lockout is usually harder than the bottom. I’ve seen lifters do this in “push press” fashion (using the bounce to get it moving at the bottom and force the lockout)
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Hammer Strength horizontal leg press.
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When I do leg press as a main exercise, I can do a lot more volume that day. Squats really take a lot out of me. I’ll do 5 sets of squats and 5 sets of leg press and fight the urge to puke while finishing off leg curls.
I can do 8 sets of leg press, then 6 sets of the hack squat machine, then 6 sets of leg extensions, and 6 sets of leg curls and not feel as out as after squatting.
Anybody else notice that?
This is the closest image I could find to what my hack squat machine looks like. The difference is, the foot stand is curved on mine to allow a more natural arc of movement. The back support is not stationary making it much more like a real squat only with back support.
I consider these better than the ones where the back support is flat and only moves up and down on a rail.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
matso1236 wrote:
What do you guys think of this:
Front Squats: 3x8
Hack Squats:3x10
Smith Back Squats: 2x15
Leg Press: 2x20
Leg Extension: 3xfailure
Is this too much?
I was thinking of doing the smith machine squats timed, like 2 minutes of no-stops squats or something like that, i remember doing something like this awhile ago, and it destroyed my legs, verdict?
Wait, so you guys just sit at home, throw some random variation of exercises, sets and reps on screen, and then ask if it is too much?
What happened to going to the gym and finding out if it is too much? What about seeing if your legs are growing and getting stronger from this?
Are you all looking for a crystal ball or big muscles because they canceled Ms. Cleo years ago?
You can’t skip trial and error no matter how many people you ask. That isn’t meant to be harsh, it is simply reality.[/quote]
I understand, i guess what i meant if this selection of exercises look alright, but whatever…
How about some more shots of the wheels, i actually have one that one of my friends snapped of me about 3-4 weeks ago, he still had it and emailed it to me today:
LiveFromThe781 your legs are looking pretty good, they look thick, I’m like 5’11 and my legs never have that thick look to them.
Bury all your reps on Squat, front squat, and the hack squat. Do one of these exercises per session, two sessions a week and rotate each exercise. One work set in the 8-12 rep range and one finisher set of 20-25. Add weight each session. Do some fascia stretching after your finisher set. Hold each stretch 60 to 90 seconds.
This is basically how DC advocates leg training. These three exercises and the above technique have given me more quad growth than anything else.
Even though I am not training DC style at the moment I still include the fascia stretching. It makes a huge difference in recovery and muscle separation. I use either a “sissy squat” type stretch or an iso split squat stretch. If anything give the fascia stretching a try. Good luck.
[quote]Joebob wrote:
Bury all your reps on Squat, front squat, and the hack squat. Do one of these exercises per session, two sessions a week and rotate each exercise. One work set in the 8-12 rep range and one finisher set of 20-25. Add weight each session. Do some fascia stretching after your finisher set. Hold each stretch 60 to 90 seconds.
This is basically how DC advocates leg training. These three exercises and the above technique have given me more quad growth than anything else.
Even though I am not training DC style at the moment I still include the fascia stretching. It makes a huge difference in recovery and muscle separation. I use either a “sissy squat” type stretch or an iso split squat stretch. If anything give the fascia stretching a try. Good luck. [/quote]
Yea i have been doing the quad stretch, i hold on to the bar in the smith machine and do the stretch, i read about it in a thread started by DG awhile ago and i have incorporated them into my leg routine already, seen improvement in separation.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is the closest image I could find to what my hack squat machine looks like. The difference is, the foot stand is curved on mine to allow a more natural arc of movement. The back support is not stationary making it much more like a real squat only with back support.
I consider these better than the ones where the back support is flat and only moves up and down on a rail.[/quote]
We have a similar machine at my gym. I, and many of the people that use that machine, usually do it facing the opposite way so that you aren’t up against the back rest. Do you ever try them that way or do you normally hack squat with your back against the back rest?
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Professor X wrote:
This is the closest image I could find to what my hack squat machine looks like. The difference is, the foot stand is curved on mine to allow a more natural arc of movement. The back support is not stationary making it much more like a real squat only with back support.
I consider these better than the ones where the back support is flat and only moves up and down on a rail.
We have a similar machine at my gym. I, and many of the people that use that machine, usually do it facing the opposite way so that you aren’t up against the back rest. Do you ever try them that way or do you normally hack squat with your back against the back rest?[/quote]
I’m with you, I prefer to face the machine so that your back isn’t on the pad
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Professor X wrote:
This is the closest image I could find to what my hack squat machine looks like. The difference is, the foot stand is curved on mine to allow a more natural arc of movement. The back support is not stationary making it much more like a real squat only with back support.
I consider these better than the ones where the back support is flat and only moves up and down on a rail.
We have a similar machine at my gym. I, and many of the people that use that machine, usually do it facing the opposite way so that you aren’t up against the back rest. Do you ever try them that way or do you normally hack squat with your back against the back rest?[/quote]
I used to do them that way but I actually like the back support now. It seems to allow me to use more weight, however, again the machine I use has a more natural range of motion better than the one in the pic I showed.
[quote]Artem wrote:
When I do leg press as a main exercise, I can do a lot more volume that day. Squats really take a lot out of me. I’ll do 5 sets of squats and 5 sets of leg press and fight the urge to puke while finishing off leg curls.
I can do 8 sets of leg press, then 6 sets of the hack squat machine, then 6 sets of leg extensions, and 6 sets of leg curls and not feel as out as after squatting.
Anybody else notice that?[/quote]
its because the leg press is less CNS taxing. youre using extra energy just to unrack and walk it out. then you have to stabilize yourself the entire time, plus if youre doing breathing sets youre going to have that load on your shoulders and thats going to take a lot out of you.
with the leg press youre able to hit the quads and pretty just the quads without taxing much of anything else. you can still get very exhausted doing them no doubt but it takes more overall volume than with a standarb BB squat.
[quote]matso1236 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 your legs are looking pretty good, they look thick, I’m like 5’11 and my legs never have that thick look to them.
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thanks. idk, im very critical on myself. its hard to be proud of them when you see guys with quads as wide as my whole chest and veins that look like what happened when you left your N64 out for a week.
ive also never missed a leg day in my entire training span. ok, i missed 1 but i was sick.
your legs are also pretty good, proportionally speaking theyre one of your biggest/most developed features…as far as i could tell from that pic at least.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Damn X. 9-10 sets…that would make me want to kill myself. Props to you on that, lol.
What’s funny is watching me walk out of the gym after that. My legs are usually so pumped I can’t walk straight. [/quote]
You have to climb two flights of stairs to get out of my college gym. I look like I’m an 85 year old man without my walker when I go up those bitches after a leg day. I have to hold on to the rail for dear life.
lol you think thats bad? i cant bend my back forward an inch for like 2 or 3 days after i do DLs. i have to choices to pick something up, knee bends or atg. i usually just knee bend.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
lol you think thats bad? i cant bend my back forward an inch for like 2 or 3 days after i do DLs. i have to choices to pick something up, knee bends or atg. i usually just knee bend.[/quote]
How many sets of deadlifts are you doing?
[quote]forbes wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
lol you think thats bad? i cant bend my back forward an inch for like 2 or 3 days after i do DLs. i have to choices to pick something up, knee bends or atg. i usually just knee bend.
How many sets of deadlifts are you doing?[/quote]
405x4
385x2-3
but it depends. im kind of a knuckle head and i train my DLs til failure.
oh and when i do legs my knee like capsizes. idk how to explain it but when im walking it will just kinda give in and it happened once on the leg press but i caught myself, haha.