BSN makes a killing on:
Setting false expectations for supplement performance
Bases it’s product line around the use of arganine/N.O. supplements which have been shown to work ONLY at doses too high for a person to take orally
Uses Creatine Ethyl Ester, a proven unstable, less-effective variant of Creatine Monohydrate
I don’t work for Biotest, I don’t get anything free from them. I’m a salesman and personal trainer/martial arts student/instructor who hates seeing garbage presented as effective.
Oh my god…i don’t believe this…a friend that i directed to Biotest told me about this… BB.com hits back…
hahahaa…army of the 16 year-olds with BSN NO xplode and fat burners in their hands are comming, and they are comming for blood…hahahaha…
Seems like they’re taking it quite personally. SUPPLEMENT WARS.
There’s an actual forum there named Supplement Wars. Woah, I didn’t even know that.
[quote]Pergam_X wrote:
Oh my god…i don’t believe this…a friend that i directed to Biotest told me about this… BB.com hits back…
hahahaa…army of the 16 year-olds with BSN NO xplode and fat burners in their hands are comming, and they are comming for blood…hahahaha…
[/quote]
Hilarious.
This mean we’re going to invade bb.com before Fantasy Feeders?
Or are those the same thing?
[quote]allNatural wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i hear a lot of people bash it and i do too myself from time to time but i just do it cause everyone on here does it.
lol[/quote]
x2
is this guy serious? With that attitude i hope you never get into the clinic…
If you really want to know why people here kick BSN’s ass regularly, there are several reasons:
Their bread&butter supplement(NOxplode) is CRAP. NO stimulators do not work, because it takes about 12g of intavenous arginine to stimulate NO production. Yes, arginine is a percusor to it naturally, but little has to do with oral consumption, i’d wish it was that easy.
Check out this page:
www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html
You see The MAN himself(ronnie) and some fitness model, stating that “NO XPLODE” is da THING…People getting the picture “oh my god, if i use NOxplode i’m going to be like them”…but wait, they don’t say that…or maybe they do? Who knows…it sure as hell is a smart marketing…they have Ronnie to collect the hardcore lifters, and some model to collect those that “don’t want to get huge…you know…”
Read some product descriptions on T-Nation…if you can’t see the fucking difference, than go shoot yourself… Here, author seeks for science confirmation…sure they brag a bit how they are better then others, but nobody says “you’ll be a beast over night”…And there are forum discussions where they answer the people questions about products, trying to explain i mean, really trying to explain what’s going on…If it was me, i’d just hire some random PRO and advertise that way… Better chance for higher income, but Tim and TC aren’t that way, and we should be tankful.
So you quit doing something just because everybody does it - start using your head, and pray to enter the phys clinic, because i don’t see how you could possibly make something of yourself with that attitude. Have a nice day!
When has anyone recommended mega-dosing anything other than fish oil? Fuck, Spike says right on the packaging to only take one. Fucking dorks.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i dont even take any BSN products but does anyone have any legitiment reason as to why they hate the supplement? i hear a lot of people bash it and i do too myself from time to time but i just do it cause everyone on here does it. aside from them going to court over NO Xplode does anyone have any legit reason to hate their other products?[/quote]
not sure if it’s been mentioned. But they were taken to court over false label claims. That right there is enough to never buy from them
That discussion on bb.com actually got me fuckin’ angry. Those little pricks. I would honestly like to beat every one of their 16 year old ignorant faces in.
[quote]ty45 wrote:
That discussion on bb.com actually got me fuckin’ angry. Those little pricks. I would honestly like to beat every one of their 16 year old ignorant faces in.[/quote]
it was a little agitating. But you have to understand some people get this “it’s us vs them mentality” when it comes to message boards.
Same as on here when people bash the posters at bb.com for being stupid, when we have plenty of retards as well
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
ty45 wrote:
That discussion on bb.com actually got me fuckin’ angry. Those little pricks. I would honestly like to beat every one of their 16 year old ignorant faces in.
it was a little agitating. But you have to understand some people get this “it’s us vs them mentality” when it comes to message boards.
Same as on here when people bash the posters at bb.com for being stupid, when we have plenty of retards as well[/quote]
I never personally had a problem with bb.com before I read that thread. I always assumed people were exaggerating when it came to their stupidity. I now realize what they were talking about.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
ty45 wrote:
That discussion on bb.com actually got me fuckin’ angry. Those little pricks. I would honestly like to beat every one of their 16 year old ignorant faces in.
it was a little agitating. But you have to understand some people get this “it’s us vs them mentality” when it comes to message boards.
Same as on here when people bash the posters at bb.com for being stupid, when we have plenty of retards as well[/quote]
But we have a better class of retards, George.
[/sarcasm]
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
ty45 wrote:
That discussion on bb.com actually got me fuckin’ angry. Those little pricks. I would honestly like to beat every one of their 16 year old ignorant faces in.
it was a little agitating. But you have to understand some people get this “it’s us vs them mentality” when it comes to message boards.
Same as on here when people bash the posters at bb.com for being stupid, when we have plenty of retards as well[/quote]
yeah i remember hearing about that. anyone know how that all turned out? i dont support their use, i just see so many people blindly hate on them here.
i know their cell-mass, no xplode, and a couple other things are b.s. but when i said i only hate on them cause others do i mean that when people are like “oh dude this BSN Endorush is intense you should try it PreWO” im just thinking in my head “well…T-Nation has some good info and some good people who know what theyre talking about so maybe ill just listen to them and never try this shit”
i was just trying to see what do people legitimately have against this product line (other than theyre competitors…but since you dont have stock in Biotest i dont know why itd matter to you anyway)
i honestly think theres just as many people hating on BSN by word of mouth as there people who take it based on word of mouth. basically theres a lot of people on both bandwagons who just jumped on either side before doing legit research…not that many people really research a supp product before they use it.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
ty45 wrote:
That discussion on bb.com actually got me fuckin’ angry. Those little pricks. I would honestly like to beat every one of their 16 year old ignorant faces in.
it was a little agitating. But you have to understand some people get this “it’s us vs them mentality” when it comes to message boards.
Same as on here when people bash the posters at bb.com for being stupid, when we have plenty of retards as well
yeah i remember hearing about that. anyone know how that all turned out? i dont support their use, i just see so many people blindly hate on them here.
i know their cell-mass, no xplode, and a couple other things are b.s. but when i said i only hate on them cause others do i mean that when people are like “oh dude this BSN Endorush is intense you should try it PreWO” im just thinking in my head “well…T-Nation has some good info and some good people who know what theyre talking about so maybe ill just listen to them and never try this shit”
i was just trying to see what do people legitimately have against this product line (other than theyre competitors…but since you dont have stock in Biotest i dont know why itd matter to you anyway)
i honestly think theres just as many people hating on BSN by word of mouth as there people who take it based on word of mouth. basically theres a lot of people on both bandwagons who just jumped on either side before doing legit research…not that many people really research a supp product before they use it.[/quote]
Their protein blends are actually pretty decent if what is on the label is actually in the jug. Then again, not all proteins are created equal, and the ingredient list doesn’t list the actually percentage of each protein in the blend.
in rebuttal to those badmouthing Biotest i post this:
that should be familiar to anyone that goes to a gym
i have a good feeling he curls in the squat rack too
youtube comments include “you’re a monster !”
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
When has anyone recommended mega-dosing anything other than fish oil? Fuck, Spike says right on the packaging to only take one. Fucking dorks. [/quote]
BCAA
Shit they’re at it again!
We need reinforcements asap
They’re really laying into T-Nation now.
Haha good response!
OP looked like a troll job tbh although i really hope he reads that