Brotherhood of Iron Redux

Sweet. Hopefully GB is stocked on lube and/or lotion. Would hate the poor guy to rub himself raw when the inevitable happens.

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I also want to say that my new favorite meal is eggs over easy with toast. Nothing tastes better than toast dipped in the yolk. I’m still experimenting trying to cook them correctly lol, its tough.[/quote]

Hell yes! I like to throw 2 eggs on top of one piece of toast and just bite in. So good!!

ground beef, taco seasoning, cheese, low carb tortilla = tastes like fucking taco bell

or what i remember taco bell tasting like

gonna go make some right now

i just realized im not in t-cell alpha, someone mind sending me an invite haha

[quote]300andabove wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

Finally decided that doing 3 work sets per exercise just doesn’t feel good at all and I’m now down to a 3-way, same one used by most of Hernon’s trainees… But doing 1-2 top sets per exercise. So, say I want to get 10 reps on the CGP, if I get them, I’ll add more weight and do another, heavier set. If not, then I’ll keep the same weight for the second set…

Got 2 variants of each session:

Chest, Back(width, thickness)
-Low-Incline BB Presses / Flat DB Presses
-Wide-neutral grip Pulldowns / Rack Chins
-Yates Rows / Kroc Rows (wanna beat that bitch kroc)

Legs+Abs
-Sumo Deadlifts, very wide stance / Back Squats (if I feel like it, otherwise front-squats)
-Leg Extensions. Yes, really. / Glute-Ham raises (in the lying leg curl machine with someone sitting on the pad+stack and 2 DB’s so it doesn’t end up being a leg curl lol)
-Pulldown Abs / Roman Chair situps
(+ perhaps some calf work, not that I need it or feel like it by then)

Delts, Guns
-Alt. Curls / Standing DB Overhead Presses (yeah, well)
-CGP / Bent-Over Overhead Rope Extensions (ala Harris)
-Mix between Lateral and DB upright row / Pinwheel Curls with straps

No real low-back work in there atm…

Thinking of maybe doing 2 exercises for some muscle-groups with 1 set each rather than 1 exercise for 2 sets…

Hum not to bad i suppose… though at this stage would you not be better off putting some parts on maintenance and focusing on what you want / need.

I mean your weighing close to where you need to be[/quote] You can never be big enough as a natty though :slight_smile: It’s not like I’m even close to lean at 296 lbs now. I wish I were as big as dusty… 304 or so with abs, fml. I weigh nearly as much but don’t look half as lean but I get all the negative side-effects of being at that weight lol
Go figure…

[quote], so prefer the in-evitable thoughts of cutting come up[/quote] I’ll probably lean out slowly/recomp while trying the above routine. If Phil Hernon can do similar things, then I can too, right? Uh, well, don’t answer that. [quote] maybe try some specialisation ? [/quote] I’m mainly trying the higher-frequency stuff so that I can incorporate whatever is useful into the approach I take with “my” trainees. Figure some of my old splits could use some overhauling… I have a bunch of locals on similar routines. Trying to see what does best for the beginners, 3/week/bodypart or 2/week/bodypart etc.
Was originally sparked by the success of that yates-inspired 3-way I have a lot of guys on.
Depending on how this testing-business goes, I guess you won’t see me recommending any 1/week/bodypart routines anymore, at least not unless a special occasion warrants it.

But you bet that if I just had the necessary equipment, I’d be on the 3 way or 5-way variant of DC right now :slight_smile:

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Or is your body perfectly proportional ? Your about the only guy i’d believe if he said yes :stuck_out_tongue:
[/quote]Not at all. My chest could use some work (I hate every single chest exercise out there…) and my hamstrings are still terrible… Coming up slowly now thanks to wide-stance sumo-pulls.

Very quality leg workout today, , went as such:

Back Squats:
135x8
215x5
315x15

Front Squats:
225x5/5

Eliptical, a bit over 3 miles, keeping my heartrate around 160ish. Because of knee pain [again] I’m trying to keep my cardio to non-impact. Expirimenting with sipping on amino acids mixed with water during the cardio part, to try and prevent any muscle wasting. Tastes like ass…but hey, if it works…who gives a fuck?

And if I can get 315x20 reps in the next couple week that would make my fucking ecstatic…last session I got 12 reps with it, so progress is good so far…

So why are you remaining natural C_C? Personal choice/belief? Maybe you don’t think you can justify doing your first cycle in your current gym? Legal issues?

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
josh86 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
On the topic of Cowboy, I fucking hate reading his posts. He just sounds like a creepy old man.

“I would LOVE to bend that SEXY ASS over the bed and fill it up with COCK and then finish all OVER your FACE ”

That’s like how his posts always are lol

This shit made me laugh. Way too accurate.

Back on BOI topic. I wantto be a beastly 250 already!

I wantto be a beastly 270 already!!! [/quote]

. ← that is how close I am to dropping by your place and forcing you to try a different training method at gun-point (or tooth-point perhaps, you’re still small enough to fit into my frying pan).

All joking aside, don’t you perhaps want to try something slightly different for once? For a few months at least?

I “see” you tear it up in the gym all the time (with some assistance from your, ahem, very expensive “mouthwash”) and yet I can’t get past the fact that it doesn’t look like you’re getting nearly as much out of your efforts as you should… That’s me wanting to help you out here, seriously. Promise I won’t suggest DC either, I have a few fairly volume-heavy approaches in mind :slight_smile:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
What about my lat spread? I get no love. :slight_smile:
[/quote] Didn’t you get plenty of love from Abby already? What more do you want? Pff…

cc, if you were say my height do you think you could ever look like dusty without using super sups?

[quote]Gaius Octavius wrote:
So why are you remaining natural C_C? Personal choice/belief? Maybe you don’t think you can justify doing your first cycle in your current gym? Legal issues?[/quote]

Nothing to gain from it (but strength and mass, of course).

It’s illegal, I know no sources (though I guess I could talk to some local assisted guys or even ask certain well-known guys you’ve all seen on the mag covers or powerful images… But yeah) and I couldn’t ever hope to compete at the highest level… And there is nothing to be gained from competing at local or even national shows, really. Definitely not in Germany.
I don’t like the whole prancing-around-on-stage-in-speedo thing anyway, bbing is all about beating the logbook to me… Which I’m still doing, albeit not at a very fast pace.

So yeah… Just for walking around at a rock hard 280 or some such (which I’m fairly sure I could when on, but it’d prolly take insulin etc as well) just for the sake of being able to do so… doesn’t really justify using imo.

I’ll probably go on HRT sometime during my 40’s or whenever my hormone levels drop down too low, but other than that I think I’ll stay clean and perhaps concentrate on getting my 1RM’s up, perhaps do a few pl meets… I’ve been wanting to for a while now.

[quote]crod266 wrote:
cc, if you were say my height do you think you could ever look like dusty without using super sups?[/quote]

LOL

He could probably use my arm-genetics, but come on. I doubt I’d be able to match him even WITH chemical assistance.

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

You can never be big enough as a natty though :slight_smile: It’s not like I’m even close to lean at 296 lbs now. I wish I were as big as dusty… 304 or so with abs, fml. I weigh nearly as much but don’t look half as lean but I get all the negative side-effects of being at that weight lol
Go figure…
I’ll probably lean out slowly/recomp while trying the above routine. If Phil Hernon can do similar things, then I can too, right?

I’m mainly trying the higher-frequency stuff so that I can incorporate whatever is useful into the approach I take with “my” trainees. Figure some of my old splits could use some overhauling… I have a bunch of locals on similar routines. Trying to see what does best for the beginners, 3/week/bodypart or 2/week/bodypart etc.
Was originally sparked by the success of that yates-inspired 3-way I have a lot of guys on.
Depending on how this testing-business goes, I guess you won’t see me recommending any 1/week/bodypart routines anymore, at least not unless a special occasion warrants it.

But you bet that if I just had the necessary equipment, I’d be on the 3 way or 5-way variant of DC right now :slight_smile:

Not at all. My chest could use some work (I hate every single chest exercise out there…) and my hamstrings are still terrible… Coming up slowly now thanks to wide-stance sumo-pulls.
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See this is what inspired my rant lol, your sacrificing YOUR gains for other peoples… and getting no benefit unless your the more altruistic person known to mankind.

Ever think of writing articles for this place ? Saw the routine posted on BBB and others this place suffers from lack of bodybuilding authors… even taking on “clients” i mean you are without doubt hand on heart THE most knowledgeable person i have conversed with, you know alot of ways to put on muscle, why not use that ?

Dunno about such high frequency if your weighing in and around 300lbs especially with your strength levels, that could spell major shoulder issues no ? Maybe the rest of your body could hack it but you would get some major grief lol.

From looking at BBB not a half bad program, i’m sure with a few modifications it would be suitable. Even dialing down the sets to 2 as the weight your using ain’t childs play anymore … kinda DC but isn’t and you’d be able to run it in any gym…

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Gaius Octavius wrote:
So why are you remaining natural C_C? Personal choice/belief? Maybe you don’t think you can justify doing your first cycle in your current gym? Legal issues?

Nothing to gain from it (but strength and mass, of course).

It’s illegal, I know no sources (though I guess I could talk to some local assisted guys or even ask certain well-known guys you’ve all seen on the mag covers or powerful images… But yeah) and I couldn’t ever hope to compete at the highest level… And there is nothing to be gained from competing at local or even national shows, really. Definitely not in Germany.
I don’t like the whole prancing-around-on-stage-in-speedo thing anyway, bbing is all about beating the logbook to me… Which I’m still doing, albeit not at a very fast pace.

So yeah… Just for walking around at a rock hard 280 or some such (which I’m fairly sure I could when on) just for the sake of being able to do so… doesn’t really justify using imo.

I’ll probably go on HRT sometime during my 40’s or whenever my hormone levels drop down too low, but other than that I think I’ll stay clean and perhaps concentrate on getting my 1RM’s up, perhaps do a few pl meets… I’ve been wanting to for a while now.
[/quote]

thats how i feel exactly, unless your going to compete it doesnt justify

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I also want to say that my new favorite meal is eggs over easy with toast. Nothing tastes better than toast dipped in the yolk. I’m still experimenting trying to cook them correctly lol, its tough.[/quote]

Good shit, I started to eat this for breakfast a little bit ago because the same old oatmeal flavored with protein powder was just getting stale.

Although you probably eat like double the eggs…

[quote]crod266 wrote:

thats how i feel exactly, unless your going to compete it doesnt justify[/quote]

Well i don’t know about that, i suffered from mid-range test levels not bad not really good, so thats why i use it. In fact any male that suffers mid range test and wants to become “Big” is going to have the dam nest time cutting down without losing ALOT of muscle. Not talking about 150lb guys, more so the 300lb guys.

I also have ZERO intention of getting in a speedo lol but eventually i would like what Ceph said, but walking around @ 280lbs natural is HARD i’d go so far as 30-40% impossible for some people you would want to be hitting 90% consistency on food/sleep/training every week for decades even 1 day fuck up will set you back. I cannot do that with my work sometimes i work 12-16 hr days so i need something to give me an added % onto the consistency level.

Furthermore, just to finish this point anyone who presumes they are a “hard gainer” isn’t more likely it’s “Hard at sticking to consistency gainer” you CAN get to 300lbs natural but you will want to have your priorities in order and no be jumping all over the place with your food/ programs which as you can see ALOT of people suffer from Program A.D.D. marketing at it’s finest eh :slight_smile:

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:

GB, saw your pics in the TILF thread. Wheels are looking solid as hell. In my very humble opinion bro, I think your back could use some work. You said in another thread recently that you’ve never done pullups? Maybe you should start. With those big ol’ arms and legs, if you had a big back, you’d be a total monster.

Ok back to my hole. [/quote]

That ain’t a lat spread jimbo ;D

So I made the stupid decision to venture into the supplements forum and lo and behold there is a post from a bloke who has been training six months, is taking muscle milk and no xplode and has now decided to start taking a certain prohormone for “bigger gains”. Nearly threw my shoe at the fucking computer screen reading that.

Last time I step in that forum.

[quote]namor wrote:
So I made the stupid decision to venture into the supplements forum and lo and behold there is a post from a bloke who has been training six months, is taking muscle milk and no xplode and has now decided to start taking a certain prohormone for “bigger gains”. Nearly threw my shoe at the fucking computer screen reading that.

Last time I step in that forum.[/quote]

I have everything but the:

Bodybuilding Forum
Steroids
Christian Thibaudeau
Training Logs

permanently removed from my selection so see no evil hear no evil in my case works best :slight_smile:

Though on occasions i have been sorely tempted to add the Bodybuilding part to the banlist.

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
josh86 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
On the topic of Cowboy, I fucking hate reading his posts. He just sounds like a creepy old man.

“I would LOVE to bend that SEXY ASS over the bed and fill it up with COCK and then finish all OVER your FACE ”

That’s like how his posts always are lol

This shit made me laugh. Way too accurate.

Back on BOI topic. I wantto be a beastly 250 already!

I wantto be a beastly 270 already!!!

. ← that is how close I am to dropping by your place and forcing you to try a different training method at gun-point (or tooth-point perhaps, you’re still small enough to fit into my frying pan).

All joking aside, don’t you perhaps want to try something slightly different for once? For a few months at least?

I “see” you tear it up in the gym all the time (with some assistance from your, ahem, very expensive “mouthwash”) and yet I can’t get past the fact that it doesn’t look like you’re getting nearly as much out of your efforts as you should… That’s me wanting to help you out here, seriously. Promise I won’t suggest DC either, I have a few fairly volume-heavy approaches in mind :slight_smile:
[/quote]

I hear ya C_C. Its mainly me wanting to make sure that I’m back up to 87% operational before I can really start breaking loose. All the aggression is coming back. Couple that with mild-severe emotional distress and I’m ready to kill the next soy boy standing in front of the freak end of the rack, curling 25lbers, blocking the spot where the 140s go, and I’m just about to finish my last set on the DB bench. I’m really going to start gearing down the volume as soon as I feel its safe to really start moving some weight around and start kicking some real ass. What do you have in mind?