Brotherhood of Iron: Omega

Training Bodybuilding
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[quote]Jacked Diesel wrote:
It’s has been my experience that the people that hate crossfit are the ones that cannot do it, I credit crossfit for helping me break through slumps and healing injuries. Like I said I have been mixing crossfit with powerlifting and seeing great results, I love heavy lifting to death and am good at it but crossfit is and always will be harder than any weightlifting.

Shit I know crossfit instructors weighing 185, 5 percent bf, and can deadlift more than me. All I’m saying is anyone that can walk up to a pole and hold themselves perpendicular to it is a badass [/quote]

except that for most of us the goal isnt to weigh 185, its to weigh 265 and crossfit isnt exactly good for that.

if you want to train to hold yourself up by a pole, thats fine, but doing that has absolutely nothing to do with bodybuilding.

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[quote]Jacked Diesel wrote:
patrickk wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
To sum up, hating crossfit = hating america, you terrorist fuck

Haha!

Too bad I know tons of Army guys who hate on crossfit too…

To each their own though :slight_smile:

I’m just shocked a lions fan can read[/quote]

I have no response to this other then, GO LIONS! 4-12!!!

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:

The only time I felt remotely close to throwing up at the gym was on a leg day when the AC was busted and I had so little water in me. It was tough. I could never eat 15 minutes prior to training though that would definitely impact my lifting negatively. Is there a reason you do that. I mean all those cals you throw up are wasted, unless it’s time restraints that are causing you to do so.

it doesnt happen every time, so not a big deal.

i doubt the calories are really wasted when theres stuff in my puke i ate hours ago. a little waxy maize and like 30 grams of protein went to waste…ill get over it.

at my old gym there was a Johnny’s Foodmaster right next door so i would grab a Power Bar and eat it RIGHT before i worked out, sometimes id still be eating it in the locker room and be waiting to finish that last piece i was chewing before i started my set, while standing IN the weight room.

its intolerable for me to workout on anything close to an empty stomach.[/quote]

Lol the opposite of what I like to do. I eat an hour or more prior to training, unless I’m using a protein shake which I’ll down 15 minutes prior to training. Well as long as you are getting bigger/stronger, more power to ya.

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[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
So why is Alpha’s log no longer available? Did I miss something?[/quote]

A combination of things involving his job(government work) and his health I believe. From the way he talks about it(remorseful?) it very much sounds like it was not his decision to make.

Need some suave computer guy to hack the T-Nation database(jk mods! =p) and get us all of his quotes and rants at least, all this time I should have been copy/pasting them into word…

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Btw live wtf is a Johnnys Foodmaster?

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[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
So why is Alpha’s log no longer available? Did I miss something?[/quote]

I think it was because he was working for the Government and his identity was compromised. At least that’s what I heard.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
For the record, I wasn’t hating on Crossfit, just on JD’s beef chugging exploits.[/quote]

huh

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
It’s has been my experience that the people that hate crossfit are the ones that cannot do it, I credit crossfit for helping me break through slumps and healing injuries. Like I said I have been mixing crossfit with powerlifting and seeing great results, I love heavy lifting to death and am good at it but crossfit is and always will be harder than any weightlifting.

Shit I know crossfit instructors weighing 185, 5 percent bf, and can deadlift more than me. All I’m saying is anyone that can walk up to a pole and hold themselves perpendicular to it is a badass

except that for most of us the goal isnt to weigh 185, its to weigh 265 and crossfit isnt exactly good for that.

if you want to train to hold yourself up by a pole, thats fine, but doing that has absolutely nothing to do with bodybuilding.[/quote]

What? If you can DL 520 at 185, and someone at 265 cant, then the guy at 265 isnt doing anything right.

I credit a lot of me being able to break through slumpos and healing injuries to crossfit, I mean shit, I didnt start doing handstand push-ups until crossfit, and that helped get my MP up.

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[quote]Jacked Diesel wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
For the record, I wasn’t hating on Crossfit, just on JD’s beef chugging exploits.

huh[/quote]

You said:

And from there on out, everything was one big gay joke.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
For the record, I wasn’t hating on Crossfit, just on JD’s beef chugging exploits.

huh

You said:

Interesting, you are slamming as much beef as me.

And from there on out, everything was one big gay joke.[/quote]

nice

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Btw live wtf is a Johnnys Foodmaster?[/quote]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.imagined-community.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/foodmaster10-1024x998.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.imagined-community.com/blog/2009/07/johnnies-foodmaster/&usg=__GDHFqP13Z26TOdgNJIKQLohlGdE=&h=998&w=1024&sz=256&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=b8EXBe5iLxG4tM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djohnnys%2Bfoodmaster%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

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[quote]Jacked Diesel wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
It’s has been my experience that the people that hate crossfit are the ones that cannot do it, I credit crossfit for helping me break through slumps and healing injuries. Like I said I have been mixing crossfit with powerlifting and seeing great results, I love heavy lifting to death and am good at it but crossfit is and always will be harder than any weightlifting.

Shit I know crossfit instructors weighing 185, 5 percent bf, and can deadlift more than me. All I’m saying is anyone that can walk up to a pole and hold themselves perpendicular to it is a badass

except that for most of us the goal isnt to weigh 185, its to weigh 265 and crossfit isnt exactly good for that.

if you want to train to hold yourself up by a pole, thats fine, but doing that has absolutely nothing to do with bodybuilding.

What? If you can DL 520 at 185, and someone at 265 cant, then the guy at 265 isnt doing anything right.

I credit a lot of me being able to break through slumpos and healing injuries to crossfit, I mean shit, I didnt start doing handstand push-ups until crossfit, and that helped get my MP up.[/quote]

i dont think theres any bodybuilder at 265 who can’t deadlift at least 650

if you want to get big, don’t do crossfit

if you want to get good at handstand pushups, go for it.

if crossfit was the end be all for strength it would be used for powerlifters/strongmen

except it’s not.

im glad to hear you’re getting results from it but i don’t think you would do well from exclusively training crossfit in either the strength or size category that is.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Btw live wtf is a Johnnys Foodmaster?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.imagined-community.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/foodmaster10-1024x998.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.imagined-community.com/blog/2009/07/johnnies-foodmaster/&usg=__GDHFqP13Z26TOdgNJIKQLohlGdE=&h=998&w=1024&sz=256&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=b8EXBe5iLxG4tM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djohnnys%2Bfoodmaster%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1[/quote]

Wordd. Foodmaster to you is like an IGA to me.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
It’s has been my experience that the people that hate crossfit are the ones that cannot do it, I credit crossfit for helping me break through slumps and healing injuries. Like I said I have been mixing crossfit with powerlifting and seeing great results, I love heavy lifting to death and am good at it but crossfit is and always will be harder than any weightlifting.

Shit I know crossfit instructors weighing 185, 5 percent bf, and can deadlift more than me. All I’m saying is anyone that can walk up to a pole and hold themselves perpendicular to it is a badass

except that for most of us the goal isnt to weigh 185, its to weigh 265 and crossfit isnt exactly good for that.

if you want to train to hold yourself up by a pole, thats fine, but doing that has absolutely nothing to do with bodybuilding.

What? If you can DL 520 at 185, and someone at 265 cant, then the guy at 265 isnt doing anything right.

I credit a lot of me being able to break through slumpos and healing injuries to crossfit, I mean shit, I didnt start doing handstand push-ups until crossfit, and that helped get my MP up.

i dont think theres any bodybuilder at 265 who can’t deadlift at least 650

if you want to get big, don’t do crossfit

if you want to get good at handstand pushups, go for it.

if crossfit was the end be all for strength it would be used for powerlifters/strongmen

except it’s not.

im glad to hear you’re getting results from it but i don’t think you would do well from exclusively training crossfit in either the strength or size category that is.

[/quote]

There is no point in talking about this anymore, you are talkingabout something you dont know much about.

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[quote]Jacked Diesel wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
It’s has been my experience that the people that hate crossfit are the ones that cannot do it, I credit crossfit for helping me break through slumps and healing injuries. Like I said I have been mixing crossfit with powerlifting and seeing great results, I love heavy lifting to death and am good at it but crossfit is and always will be harder than any weightlifting.

Shit I know crossfit instructors weighing 185, 5 percent bf, and can deadlift more than me. All I’m saying is anyone that can walk up to a pole and hold themselves perpendicular to it is a badass

except that for most of us the goal isnt to weigh 185, its to weigh 265 and crossfit isnt exactly good for that.

if you want to train to hold yourself up by a pole, thats fine, but doing that has absolutely nothing to do with bodybuilding.

What? If you can DL 520 at 185, and someone at 265 cant, then the guy at 265 isnt doing anything right.

I credit a lot of me being able to break through slumpos and healing injuries to crossfit, I mean shit, I didnt start doing handstand push-ups until crossfit, and that helped get my MP up.

i dont think theres any bodybuilder at 265 who can’t deadlift at least 650

if you want to get big, don’t do crossfit

if you want to get good at handstand pushups, go for it.

if crossfit was the end be all for strength it would be used for powerlifters/strongmen

except it’s not.

im glad to hear you’re getting results from it but i don’t think you would do well from exclusively training crossfit in either the strength or size category that is.

There is no point in talking about this anymore, you are talkingabout something you dont know much about.[/quote]

i know enough about it.

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[quote]red04 wrote:
Shoulders:

SHIPs: 235x10(+10lbs +2 reps)

DB Shoulder Press: 85’sx10(+2reps)

Laterals: 45sx12 + dropped to 15s til failure.

Reverse Pec Deck Flyes: 180x10

Shrugs: 405x12 + drop sets

My rollercoaster week continues, good day bad day good day bad day good day… maybe I should skip tomorrow =p
[/quote]

What are SHIPs red? Some form of In-Human Press I suppose

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[quote]namor wrote:
I am totally wiped out. I am going to eat as much as I can today to keep the energy flowing.

Incline bench in the smith
(110kg) 242lb x 8, 4, 2 (14RP plus an additional rep on each rest-pause where I needed some assistance geting the weight up)

DB Shoulder Press
(32.5kg) 71.5lb x 9, 2, 2 (13RP, fuck me I seriously need a lifting partner to help me get the weights into place on the second and third legs of the RP)

CGBP in the Smith
(85kg) 187lb x 12, 6, 4 (22RP)

Rack Chins
BW plus (15kg) 33lb x 8, 4, 3 (15RP)

Kroc Rows
(57.5kg) 126.5lb DB x 15 each arm
(30kg) 66lb DB x 22 each arm

Weighed in this morning at (110kg) 242lb on the dot.[/quote]

Aren’t you meant to just do one top set for the Kroc Rows?

Also, I’d be interested to see the progress in weight/reps on the exercises compared to the previous cycle if you wanna post that up too :smiley:

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donkey calf raises - amazing

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fridays chest and arms

-low incline smith, suicide grip, not touching chest 220x6
-incline db bench 88x11
-yates row 330x6
-pullups bw x 12, 9, 8

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Jacked Diesel wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
For the record, I wasn’t hating on Crossfit, just on JD’s beef chugging exploits.

huh

You said:

Interesting, you are slamming as much beef as me.

And from there on out, everything was one big gay joke.[/quote]

Word, oh I Deadlifted 550 at 181, so like, I had to do Crossfit to be able to do that?