[quote]cobain67 wrote:
Prior to this I trained after meal 1 in the AM. My post workout carbs came from oats/oat bran and fruit.
Alright, here’s what I put together:
6’2"
168lbs
BF%: 8-9% (realistically; calipers read like 2%)
Meal 1:
42g protein
75g carbs
15g fat
*Train (4 scoops XTend, 1/2 scoop EAAs, 15g Waxy Maize)
30g protein
15g carbs
0g fat
Meal 2:
42g protein
75g carbs
15g fat
Meal 3:
42g protein
15g carbs
15g fat
Meal 4:
42g protein
15-30g carbs (grapefruit and lcarb milk + veggies)
15g fat
*Train (4 scoops Xtend, 1/2 scoop EAAs, 15g Waxy Maize)
30g protein
15g carbs
0g fat
Meal 5:
42g protein
50g carbs (oatmeal, veggies)
15g fat
Meal 6:
35g protein
10g carbs
15g fat
This is what I have been doing… Although I know it is not enough for this routine. I just hear so many mixed opinions on what one should do with their macros, timing, etc. that I’ve just given myself a freaking headache, lol…
regarding the above diet, I have been trying for 3100-3200 cals/day on training days, and 2500 or so on off days.
Thanks again for the help, and sorry this is posted in your log…
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OK, now that I have some time to look at this.
To be honest, you’re worrying WAY too much about this at 168lbs 8% bodyfat and 6’1". You’re actually pretty skinny (and lean obviously). I would say jsut from your statistics that you have ectomorphic tendencies (much like myself). What are your goals? You HAVE to overcome these if you want to put on some muscle. In fact, you’re primed for some damn muscle right now lol!
Also, you do realize that you aren’t reaping the benefits of the waxy maize by adding that much extra stuff to it right? The reason WMS is effective is it’s high molecular weight. The molecular weight of aminos is MUCH lower. Through experimentation most people find that any more than 30% or so of added stuff will negate the effects of WMS.
Think of it as a cannonball shooting through a cloth. If the cloth is too big is will slow the cannonball. However, if it’s small enough it will get dragged along for the ride.
Anyway, this is what I would do if I were you.
Meal 1:
42g protein
75g carbs
15g fat
(looks good. Continue what you’re doing at breakfast.)
*Train (4 scoops XTend, 1/2 scoop EAAs, 15g Waxy Maize)
30g protein
15g carbs
0g fat
(is this taken PWO? Anyway, if I were you, I would take the Xtend WHILE I trained and downed about 50-75g WMS with a SMALL amount of EAA’s PWO)
Meal 2:
42g protein
75g carbs
15g fat
(eat this within 1 hour of the PWO meal. Up the carbs too 100g)
Meal 3:
42g protein
15g carbs
15g fat
(OK, this is a 363kcal meal…WAY too small. This should be eaten 2.5 - 3 hours after the second PWO meal. Make it about 50g of carbs here to keep blood sugar levels up)
Meal 4:
42g protein
15-30g carbs (grapefruit and lcarb milk + veggies)
15g fat
(this should be more like a right before bed meal. Switch it to then and remove meal 6. Add a meal with the same macros as meal 3.)
*Train (4 scoops Xtend, 1/2 scoop EAAs, 15g Waxy Maize)
30g protein
15g carbs
0g fat
(Again, take the Xtend WHILE you train and down about 50-75g WMS with a SMALL amount of EAA’s PWO)
Meal 5:
42g protein
50g carbs (oatmeal, veggies)
15g fat
(OK so it’s late in the evening…so what? You just trained. Exercise is the great equalizer. Again up the carbs too 100g.)
Meal 6:
35g protein
10g carbs
15g fat
(Put meal 4 here)
So you should end up with something like
Meal 1:
42g protein
75g carbs
15g fat
*Train
DURING: 4 scoops Xtend
25g protein? (dunno how much is in this stuff)
IMMEDIATELY AFTER: at least 50g WMS and 1/2 scoop EAA’s
50g carbs
max of 10g protein
0g fat
Meal 2:
42g protein
100g carbs
15g fat
Meal 3:
42g protein
50g carbs
15g fat
Meal 4:
42g protein
50g carbs
15g fat
*Train
DURING: 4 scoops Xtend
25g protein? (dunno how much is in this stuff)
IMMEDIATELY AFTER: at least 50g WMS and 1/2 scoop EAA’s
50g carbs
max of 10g protein
0g fat
Meal 5:
42g protein
100g carbs
15g fat
Meal 6:
42g protein
15-30g carbs (grapefruit and lcarb milk + veggies)
15g fat
Do this. Check the scale after 2 weeks. If it is moving up, keep doing what you’re doing, if it’s not add a preworkout meal and a middle-of-the night shake (like 25g carbs anf 40g protein for PREWO and 75g protein with 15g fat for middle of the night)
Trust me bro, it’s worth putting on a little fat to gain some muscle. Why do you have to be lean year-around? Winter’s coming! Gain some muscle so you can shed it for summer.
Again, if you’re truly worried about fat gain do cLIGHT cardio on off days for no more than 40 minutes. The thermogenesis on this program will be insane. I don’t think you’ll need it.
I’ll leave you with this quote:
“Everyone seems to think having a strict diet is hardcore. Wrong! It?s so easy. There is no strain or effort. You just follow the damn diet! Hardcore is stuffing your face to the point where you feel like you?re going to pop and then going to get a milkshake.” --Dave “Fuckin’” Tate