Bragging About Bench Press?

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

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I dont think its too plausible to hold bodybuilders to a powerlifter’s standards. Cant really declare 1 movement as “This and only this” while both bodybuilders and powerlifters do that same movement differently.

And if it will also please the court, id like to move that ‘a Max lift CAN be declared for HS or smith if said machine was included in one’s declaration,’ IE “My max is 5 plates on each side for a HS incline bench.” [/quote]

Good post…but why do these people care so much?

When people ask how much I bench, if I say, “I don’t do barbell bench press”, all I get is a blank stare as if they can’t understand someone looking big without doing a benchpress.

That caused my response to change to “a lot”, simply to end the fucking conversation.

The fact is, most people even asking have no real world concept of the weight I use anyway.

I first hit 405 on a flat barbell bench over ten years ago…yet I have had people n this site act like I can’t be that strong now because I am moving even more weight on a HS machine…like that makes any fucking sense.

It seems more people are simply looking for something that sets them above the person they are asking about a bench press…nothing more. That is why they make such a fucking issue about form even though the guy they are harassing has a chest 5 times as big their own.

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

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So if you are a taller lifter do you get to include a multiplier to your weight? Consider that at 6’3 in order to complete a full range of motion (ie touch the tits) I have to move the bar a full 3 feet where the avg joe is probably only doing 2 feet. Since my overall workload is higher what’s my multiplier?
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nope…no multipliers. suck it up and get bigger. besides, you are probably a good deadlifter and that more than makes up for your shitty bench. I have t-rex arms and am a decent bencher and truely suck at deadlifting but I’m not going to ask for special treatment since i was born with basically my hands attached to my shoulders.

Damn Dave Tate’s arms are fucking sexy.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
nope…no multipliers. suck it up and get bigger. besides, you are probably a good deadlifter and that more than makes up for your shitty bench. I have t-rex arms and am a decent bencher and truely suck at deadlifting but I’m not going to ask for special treatment since i was born with basically my hands attached to my shoulders.
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Getting off topic here, but the idea that tall people are naturally good deadlifters is false, IMO. Sure, we’ve got extra long arms but we’ve also got extra long legs getting in the way.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

[/quote]

I dont think its too plausible to hold bodybuilders to a powerlifter’s standards. Cant really declare 1 movement as “This and only this” while both bodybuilders and powerlifters do that same movement differently.

And if it will also please the court, id like to move that ‘a Max lift CAN be declared for HS or smith if said machine was included in one’s declaration,’ IE “My max is 5 plates on each side for a HS incline bench.” [/quote]

i think you are reading too much into this. i’m not talking bodybuilding or powerlifting. If that were the case i could throw in a whole list of rules that i have to follow for a bench to be really considered a bench attempt. I could have easily said that your feet can’t move, you can’t press until the bar is motionless on your chest, you can’t let it dip before pressing…etc. IMO, when someone asks how much a person benches, the vast majority of people assume that the movement will be full ROM. i have nothing against partial ROM movements. I use them pretty much everytime i train. I’ll go even further to say that I would never have gotten to my present level of strength without doing partials. But with that said, when someone asks what i bench i tell them what i can touch and go bench because that’s what people think of when they are asking.

I think some people are getting their panties in a wad because they feel like this is personal or that one way is better than another. Everything works. But we all know when some person asks us how much ya bench, they aren’t asking what someone benches on some machine or how much they can bench with half ROM or How much they can bench to a board or whatever. I would bet that I do more bench variations than anyone on this forum. If i wanted to I could say that i bench 675lbs because I’ve done that to a four board. But we know that would be absurd when in reality the question was really how much i could bench for a full ROM.

So if as a bodybuilder one is asked how much they bench, then the answer should be either this is how much i bench to my chest or I don’t do full ROM benches for a 1 rep max. It’s that simple.

As for your request to have Hammerzz strength machines made an option for being an alternative to the “waddya bench?” , I’ll have to decline your application. Everyone knows that if you are truely strong, there’s no way you could get enough weight on a hammmerzz strength machine to actually test a 1 RM:) good try though.
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If it would please the court, for the record, id like to state that i have not tried on, nor worn panties, and can in no way, shape, or form have them “in a wad” or any other form of Bunched state. Also for the record, Commando.

Seriously though, i dont know how the really big guys fit in HS benches. I can barely squeeze into the HS incline at my gym. Either Prof has a bigger HS machine, or he is a stretchy, pliable Mofo.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

[/quote]

So if you are a taller lifter do you get to include a multiplier to your weight? Consider that at 6’3 in order to complete a full range of motion (ie touch the tits) I have to move the bar a full 3 feet where the avg joe is probably only doing 2 feet. Since my overall workload is higher what’s my multiplier?
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nope…no multipliers. suck it up and get bigger. besides, you are probably a good deadlifter and that more than makes up for your shitty bench. I have t-rex arms and am a decent bencher and truely suck at deadlifting but I’m not going to ask for special treatment since i was born with basically my hands attached to my shoulders.
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Actually my bench is better than my DL - I’m working on it lol.

Aside form that, what does it matter what you bench? If you are doing 1RM for bench, you probably are not making gains.

If you powerlift -Fantastic, when’s your next comp.

If you are a bodybuilder and worried about yours or anyone else’s max lift (for anything) you need to do more homework.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
nope…no multipliers. suck it up and get bigger. besides, you are probably a good deadlifter and that more than makes up for your shitty bench. I have t-rex arms and am a decent bencher and truely suck at deadlifting but I’m not going to ask for special treatment since i was born with basically my hands attached to my shoulders.
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Getting off topic here, but the idea that tall people are naturally good deadlifters is false, IMO. Sure, we’ve got extra long arms but we’ve also got extra long legs getting in the way.[/quote]

i think you missed the sarcasm. i don’t typically respond to these useless threads but i had some free time today and figured I’d have some fun.

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

[/quote]

I dont think its too plausible to hold bodybuilders to a powerlifter’s standards. Cant really declare 1 movement as “This and only this” while both bodybuilders and powerlifters do that same movement differently.

And if it will also please the court, id like to move that ‘a Max lift CAN be declared for HS or smith if said machine was included in one’s declaration,’ IE “My max is 5 plates on each side for a HS incline bench.” [/quote]

i think you are reading too much into this. i’m not talking bodybuilding or powerlifting. If that were the case i could throw in a whole list of rules that i have to follow for a bench to be really considered a bench attempt. I could have easily said that your feet can’t move, you can’t press until the bar is motionless on your chest, you can’t let it dip before pressing…etc. IMO, when someone asks how much a person benches, the vast majority of people assume that the movement will be full ROM. i have nothing against partial ROM movements. I use them pretty much everytime i train. I’ll go even further to say that I would never have gotten to my present level of strength without doing partials. But with that said, when someone asks what i bench i tell them what i can touch and go bench because that’s what people think of when they are asking.

I think some people are getting their panties in a wad because they feel like this is personal or that one way is better than another. Everything works. But we all know when some person asks us how much ya bench, they aren’t asking what someone benches on some machine or how much they can bench with half ROM or How much they can bench to a board or whatever. I would bet that I do more bench variations than anyone on this forum. If i wanted to I could say that i bench 675lbs because I’ve done that to a four board. But we know that would be absurd when in reality the question was really how much i could bench for a full ROM.

So if as a bodybuilder one is asked how much they bench, then the answer should be either this is how much i bench to my chest or I don’t do full ROM benches for a 1 rep max. It’s that simple.

As for your request to have Hammerzz strength machines made an option for being an alternative to the “waddya bench?” , I’ll have to decline your application. Everyone knows that if you are truely strong, there’s no way you could get enough weight on a hammmerzz strength machine to actually test a 1 RM:) good try though.
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If it would please the court, for the record, id like to state that i have not tried on, nor worn panties, and can in no way, shape, or form have them “in a wad” or any other form of Bunched state. Also for the record, Commando.

Seriously though, i dont know how the really big guys fit in HS benches. I can barely squeeze into the HS incline at my gym. Either Prof has a bigger HS machine, or he is a stretchy, pliable Mofo.[/quote]

i appreciate the fact that you don’t take this stuff too seriously. When you boil it down all that really matters is what you personally find acceptable for your goals.

this internet world isn’t real and most people here aren’t real. most will never compete or accomplish anything other than a really impressive post count.

i like your attitude akuma. you’ve taken some pretty heavy lashings in the past but have let it roll off.

i’m still waiting to see a 600lb smith bench though:)

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

If you are a bodybuilder and worried about yours or anyone else’s max lift (for anything) you need to do more homework.[/quote]

I will admit, I’m certainly more of a vein ass pretty boy, but am totally obsessed with my numbers.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
nope…no multipliers. suck it up and get bigger. besides, you are probably a good deadlifter and that more than makes up for your shitty bench. I have t-rex arms and am a decent bencher and truely suck at deadlifting but I’m not going to ask for special treatment since i was born with basically my hands attached to my shoulders.
[/quote]

Getting off topic here, but the idea that tall people are naturally good deadlifters is false, IMO. Sure, we’ve got extra long arms but we’ve also got extra long legs getting in the way.[/quote]

i think you missed the sarcasm. i don’t typically respond to these useless threads but i had some free time today and figured I’d have some fun.
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:frowning:

(just working on my post count)

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

[/quote]

I dont think its too plausible to hold bodybuilders to a powerlifter’s standards. Cant really declare 1 movement as “This and only this” while both bodybuilders and powerlifters do that same movement differently.

And if it will also please the court, id like to move that ‘a Max lift CAN be declared for HS or smith if said machine was included in one’s declaration,’ IE “My max is 5 plates on each side for a HS incline bench.” [/quote]

i think you are reading too much into this. i’m not talking bodybuilding or powerlifting. If that were the case i could throw in a whole list of rules that i have to follow for a bench to be really considered a bench attempt. I could have easily said that your feet can’t move, you can’t press until the bar is motionless on your chest, you can’t let it dip before pressing…etc. IMO, when someone asks how much a person benches, the vast majority of people assume that the movement will be full ROM. i have nothing against partial ROM movements. I use them pretty much everytime i train. I’ll go even further to say that I would never have gotten to my present level of strength without doing partials. But with that said, when someone asks what i bench i tell them what i can touch and go bench because that’s what people think of when they are asking.

I think some people are getting their panties in a wad because they feel like this is personal or that one way is better than another. Everything works. But we all know when some person asks us how much ya bench, they aren’t asking what someone benches on some machine or how much they can bench with half ROM or How much they can bench to a board or whatever. I would bet that I do more bench variations than anyone on this forum. If i wanted to I could say that i bench 675lbs because I’ve done that to a four board. But we know that would be absurd when in reality the question was really how much i could bench for a full ROM.

So if as a bodybuilder one is asked how much they bench, then the answer should be either this is how much i bench to my chest or I don’t do full ROM benches for a 1 rep max. It’s that simple.

As for your request to have Hammerzz strength machines made an option for being an alternative to the “waddya bench?” , I’ll have to decline your application. Everyone knows that if you are truely strong, there’s no way you could get enough weight on a hammmerzz strength machine to actually test a 1 RM:) good try though.
[/quote]

If it would please the court, for the record, id like to state that i have not tried on, nor worn panties, and can in no way, shape, or form have them “in a wad” or any other form of Bunched state. Also for the record, Commando.

Seriously though, i dont know how the really big guys fit in HS benches. I can barely squeeze into the HS incline at my gym. Either Prof has a bigger HS machine, or he is a stretchy, pliable Mofo.[/quote]

i appreciate the fact that you don’t take this stuff too seriously. When you boil it down all that really matters is what you personally find acceptable for your goals.

this internet world isn’t real and most people here aren’t real. most will never compete or accomplish anything other than a really impressive post count.

i like your attitude akuma. you’ve taken some pretty heavy lashings in the past but have let it roll off.

i’m still waiting to see a 600lb smith bench though:)
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I’ll settle for squats. :slight_smile:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

If you are a bodybuilder and worried about yours or anyone else’s max lift (for anything) you need to do more homework.[/quote]

I will admit, I’m certainly more of a vein ass pretty boy, but am totally obsessed with my numbers.

[/quote]

But I’m willing to wager that you don’t run around talking about how much you bench and then throw up a jersey shore fist.

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

If you are a bodybuilder and worried about yours or anyone else’s max lift (for anything) you need to do more homework.[/quote]

I will admit, I’m certainly more of a vein ass pretty boy, but am totally obsessed with my numbers.

[/quote]

But I’m willing to wager that you don’t run around talking about how much you bench and then throw up a jersey shore fist.
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LOL, nope.

I tend to compete with myself.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

[/quote]

I dont think its too plausible to hold bodybuilders to a powerlifter’s standards. Cant really declare 1 movement as “This and only this” while both bodybuilders and powerlifters do that same movement differently.

And if it will also please the court, id like to move that ‘a Max lift CAN be declared for HS or smith if said machine was included in one’s declaration,’ IE “My max is 5 plates on each side for a HS incline bench.” [/quote]

i think you are reading too much into this. i’m not talking bodybuilding or powerlifting. If that were the case i could throw in a whole list of rules that i have to follow for a bench to be really considered a bench attempt. I could have easily said that your feet can’t move, you can’t press until the bar is motionless on your chest, you can’t let it dip before pressing…etc. IMO, when someone asks how much a person benches, the vast majority of people assume that the movement will be full ROM. i have nothing against partial ROM movements. I use them pretty much everytime i train. I’ll go even further to say that I would never have gotten to my present level of strength without doing partials. But with that said, when someone asks what i bench i tell them what i can touch and go bench because that’s what people think of when they are asking.

I think some people are getting their panties in a wad because they feel like this is personal or that one way is better than another. Everything works. But we all know when some person asks us how much ya bench, they aren’t asking what someone benches on some machine or how much they can bench with half ROM or How much they can bench to a board or whatever. I would bet that I do more bench variations than anyone on this forum. If i wanted to I could say that i bench 675lbs because I’ve done that to a four board. But we know that would be absurd when in reality the question was really how much i could bench for a full ROM.

So if as a bodybuilder one is asked how much they bench, then the answer should be either this is how much i bench to my chest or I don’t do full ROM benches for a 1 rep max. It’s that simple.

As for your request to have Hammerzz strength machines made an option for being an alternative to the “waddya bench?” , I’ll have to decline your application. Everyone knows that if you are truely strong, there’s no way you could get enough weight on a hammmerzz strength machine to actually test a 1 RM:) good try though.
[/quote]

If it would please the court, for the record, id like to state that i have not tried on, nor worn panties, and can in no way, shape, or form have them “in a wad” or any other form of Bunched state. Also for the record, Commando.

Seriously though, i dont know how the really big guys fit in HS benches. I can barely squeeze into the HS incline at my gym. Either Prof has a bigger HS machine, or he is a stretchy, pliable Mofo.[/quote]

i appreciate the fact that you don’t take this stuff too seriously. When you boil it down all that really matters is what you personally find acceptable for your goals.

this internet world isn’t real and most people here aren’t real. most will never compete or accomplish anything other than a really impressive post count.

i like your attitude akuma. you’ve taken some pretty heavy lashings in the past but have let it roll off.

i’m still waiting to see a 600lb smith bench though:)
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A. I just got back from several weeks of Volume training, so im easing back into the heavy stuff.

B. Did you get the package i sent you? It was a spoon… with which you could eat my ass. No But yea, lol, I dunno if ill be jumping on smith anytime soon, im enjoying doing free bench. Like i said, although my weights took a big hit, my size is reaping the benefits of my fractured ego.

So if i do jump on a smith sometime, ill be sure to take a video just for you, but dont expect it anytime soon. Lol, i hate having nonbelievers and being questioned, and Oh so loving proving myself, but unfortunately, in a game where growth takes months to years to measure, when you hit something that is increasing the size of your stretchmarks by every other week, you have to stick with it.

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

Seriously though, i dont know how the really big guys fit in HS benches. I can barely squeeze into the HS incline at my gym. Either Prof has a bigger HS machine, or he is a stretchy, pliable Mofo.[/quote]

It is hard as hell sometimes, but I adjust the laying flat press by putting two plates under it. The incline I have to stand up, grab the handles, and then sit down or else I can’t fit.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

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So if you are a taller lifter do you get to include a multiplier to your weight? Consider that at 6’3 in order to complete a full range of motion (ie touch the tits) I have to move the bar a full 3 feet where the avg joe is probably only doing 2 feet. Since my overall workload is higher what’s my multiplier?
[/quote]

nope…no multipliers. suck it up and get bigger. besides, you are probably a good deadlifter and that more than makes up for your shitty bench. I have t-rex arms and am a decent bencher and truely suck at deadlifting but I’m not going to ask for special treatment since i was born with basically my hands attached to my shoulders.
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Some of the top bencher’s are above 6 ft. Kennelly is 6’2, Shawn Lattimer is 6’3, and Mendelson has got to be over 6’. So it’s not like 6’3 (with average length arms) is that bad. Once you get taller than that though it becomes more of an issue. I heard guys on this board complain when they’re only 6’ to 6’2. Those are just excuses if you ask me.

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
The OP wrote-

Does bringing the bar down until your arms are 90 degrees, without touching the chest, deserve bragging rights as your 1 rep bench max?

I am taking it upon myself to create some Gym Rules to help clear up issues like this.

Rule #1- If someone asks- “How much ya bench hoss??” The person being asked must assume they are talking about a full ROM bench brought down to the chest and taken to full lockout without a spotter touching it. This rule also applies to squat as well-squat to at least parallel without a spotter wrapped around you. Also, these lifts are also to be assumed to be free weighted, not smith or hammmerzzz strength.

Feel free to add to the list of Gym Rules. Although adoption of said rule must be approved by me to become law. I feel qualified for such an endeavor considering I have been both a bodybuilder and powerlifter and am not biased either way.

[/quote]

So if you are a taller lifter do you get to include a multiplier to your weight? Consider that at 6’3 in order to complete a full range of motion (ie touch the tits) I have to move the bar a full 3 feet where the avg joe is probably only doing 2 feet. Since my overall workload is higher what’s my multiplier?
[/quote]

nope…no multipliers. suck it up and get bigger. besides, you are probably a good deadlifter and that more than makes up for your shitty bench. I have t-rex arms and am a decent bencher and truely suck at deadlifting but I’m not going to ask for special treatment since i was born with basically my hands attached to my shoulders.
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Actually my bench is better than my DL - I’m working on it lol.

Aside form that, what does it matter what you bench? If you are doing 1RM for bench, you probably are not making gains.

If you powerlift -Fantastic, when’s your next comp.

If you are a bodybuilder and worried about yours or anyone else’s max lift (for anything) you need to do more homework.[/quote]

are you call’n me out hoss?? LOL. my entire post was sarcastic.

your entire post drips with ignorance. “if you are doing 1 rm for bench, you probably are not making progress.” do i really even need to reply to this.

also…“If you powerlift-Fantastic, when’s your next comp.” I don’t go around flaunting it but I’m a sponsored powerlifter by Charles Staley the Creator of EDT. In my last meet I benched 510lb Raw on my second attempt and narrowly missed 520lb on my third. My next meet is in October where i hope to competition bench over 500lbs with a reverse grip.

And yes… I was a bodybuilder as well. Agian… i don’t go around flaunting it but I’ve probably competed in more bodybuilding competitions than anyone else in this bodybuilding forum. I never placed lower than fifth and won many height and weight classes as well as overalls.

One thing you are right about is that you can never do enough homework… i’ll give you that one.

so what have you done hoss???

Let the record show that MM is referring to everyone as Hoss and is currently in some country…gay, state of mind.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

If you are a bodybuilder and worried about yours or anyone else’s max lift (for anything) you need to do more homework.[/quote]

I will admit, I’m certainly more of a vein ass pretty boy, but am totally obsessed with my numbers.

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But I’m willing to wager that you don’t run around talking about how much you bench and then throw up a jersey shore fist.
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LOL, nope.

I tend to compete with myself.
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To add to this, and add to my already pimp post count:

Volume without strength progression is only gonna work for so long. Up until recently I was bleeding lowish reps/strength gain dry. Hence teh obsession.

Fuck I hate 12 rep sets.

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
Let the record show that MM is referring to everyone as Hoss and is currently in some country…gay, state of mind.[/quote]

also let the record show that i’m not the one standing in my avatar pretending to hold a pair of imaginary suitecases.

now that’s ghey.