[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Get some proper olympic lifting 2.5 kg collars. They won’t budge at all.
As for benchaholic, it sounds like you need to do some serious upper back work. I understand about bent over rows doing your lower back in. A good alternative is dumbell rows with your chest and face flat against the bench. That way it takes the lower back completely out of the motion.
If your current max is your sticking point, then I think you will be surprised what an increase in upper back strength will do for you. Make it strong enough and then you should find at some point that bottom half of the lift gets a lot easier. Then it’ll be back to triceps most likely.
You also need to address your bar speed. Two useful workouts are the classic westside style band or chain work, or dead stop benching from inside a rack from a low pin position, close to your chest. [/quote]
Thanks massive. I’ll do that. The ones I bought were completely insufficient.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
Go get yourself some olympic dumbbell handles at elitefts.com.
You’re using weight that I use and have a much higher bench, you’ll need to get heavier with the back work to balance the chest work. Everything effects their opposing muscle groups. For instance triceps are affected by biceps, quads are affected by hamstrings, so on so forth. If you have a weak opposing muscle group you limit your growth in the other muscle group.[/quote]
Thanks Liquid. I neglected to see the www address above. I’ll check it out.
you are way too passive aggressive… also calling people out when they have no reason to answer to you. I’m surprised people are actually giving advice. Send me your address and i’ll mail you a cookie because I think thats what you’re looking for based on 70% of this thread.
“BTW ass bite, provoking a response is what I do for a living. If you dont like it…get over it and troll another thread.”
I’m pretty sure you missed the point of this forum then, provoking people on a forum designed to help you=waste of time.
“I appreciate it Sister Little Lifter (lol…)”
I guess witty responses aren’t necessary for law school, neither is a sense of humor. Rule of thumb if you need to put LOL after an insult, it’s definitely not funny.
“To satisfy your irritation with “Bro” I appreciate your girly troll response.”
I don’t really know what to make of this, it looks like you just made words and then stopped, but thanks?
“P.S. It’s pretty obvious that this Little lifter is a disgruntle douche that had previously posted to this thread and going under an alternate name to conceal his identity”
I like the P.S it’s a nice touch, you do know that I can still read that part right? Sadly I did not already post in that thread, I was just so mesmerized by it I felt like jumping in.
“Especially given the fact that at the time of his assenine posting above is his very first post…lol. Wow, you are really faking us all out for sure Sis”
Another Lol, good work. First postings have to happen somewhere. If not now when? If not here where?
If you are going to act like an ass, prepare to be treated like one. BTW where did you go to Law School Bro’, and when did you graduate?
“BTW ass bite, provoking a response is what I do for a living. If you dont like it…get over it and troll another thread.”
I’m pretty sure you missed the point of this forum then, provoking people on a forum designed to help you=waste of time.
“I appreciate it Sister Little Lifter (lol…)”
I guess witty responses aren’t necessary for law school, neither is a sense of humor. Rule of thumb if you need to put LOL after an insult, it’s definitely not funny.
“To satisfy your irritation with “Bro” I appreciate your girly troll response.”
I don’t really know what to make of this, it looks like you just made words and then stopped, but thanks?
“P.S. It’s pretty obvious that this Little lifter is a disgruntle douche that had previously posted to this thread and going under an alternate name to conceal his identity”
I like the P.S it’s a nice touch, you do know that I can still read that part right? Sadly I did not already post in that thread, I was just so mesmerized by it I felt like jumping in.
“Especially given the fact that at the time of his assenine posting above is his very first post…lol. Wow, you are really faking us all out for sure Sis”
Another Lol, good work. First postings have to happen somewhere. If not now when? If not here where?
If you are going to act like an ass, prepare to be treated like one. BTW where did you go to Law School Bro’, and when did you graduate?
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Look boys and girls, another baby troll has come out to play. Or probably the same troll using a fake screen name. Go on little troll, I hear momma troll calling you to go home and clean your troll box.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
I’m willing to bet you don’t do much upper back work. Am I right?[/quote]
As in?[/quote]
As in, what can you bent over row? And dumbell row. Your sticking point is at the lower end of your ROM indicating your upper back as a likely weak point in your bench. Have you ever even tried low reps with bent over row to see what you can do?[/quote]
good point. i’m a firm believer in very strong lats and biceps. IMO, one’s bent over row max should be pretty close to their bench max. to be able to pause heavy weight and then press from a dead stop, the back has to be very strong. [/quote]
Thanks again massive guns and maudermeat,
Given the fact that I only have 25-35 lbs to go to reach my goal of 500 I don’t foresee any difficulty doing so. Although I’ve never heard of back excercises increasing bench strength, as suggested earlier. I’ll give it a shot and see what happens.
I’ve heard others say that heavy squats will have a positive impact as well.
I am a lurker, I’ve been reading posts here for awhile but after reading this thread I felt compelled to sign up and post. You are a tool, your posts are designed solely to inspire some level of discord amongst the lifters on this board, for what reason I don’t know, probably to feed your own obviously damaged sense of self-worth. If you truly have a “petite wife with DD’s” then you are the most crass and tactless idiot I have had the misfortune to read on this site, your wife has certainly failed in marrying you. If you truly want help on your bench, dismissing out of hand the advice of people who lift less than you is ridiculous, lifting is part work, part technique, part nutrition and part genetics, I have trained people that can kick my ass, but they listen to me in the area that I am an expert in, if you are not smart enough to take advice I have to question everything about you.
I question the veracity of your bench videos, I question your sanity and your age, any 45 year old that ends every 3rd sentence with “'bro” is not likely to be handling legal paperwork in a capacity more involved than that of a bike courier, and I question your true purpose for posting here. Your constant attempts to provoke a response have led me to do the one thing I swore to never do, engage in an internet war of words with an egotistical, self-fellating asshat. Good luck selling people on your cool bench bro’ I for one am not buying it.[/quote]
To satisfy your irritation with “Bro” I appreciate your girly troll response.
I appreciate it Sister Little Lifter (lol…)
–Bench
P.S. It’s pretty obvious that this Little lifter is a disgruntle douche that had previously posted to this thread and going under an alternate name to conceal his identity. Especially given the fact that at the time of his assenine posting above is his very first post…lol. Wow, you are really faking us all out for sure Sis. There’s one in every thread BTW ass bite, provoking a response is what I do for a living. If you dont like it…get over it and troll another thread.[/quote]
Bench,
As you can see I’ve offered up some decent advice here, and have generally avoided the name-calling and idiocy going on in this thread. That being said, you are being highly inflammatory and for no reason. There are always going to be people who call BS on things, this community is a bit harsher then most and for good reason. Simply do yourself a favor and stop with the snide comments and parenthetical inserts that put some people down and come off as worshiping to others (meat). There are plenty of helpful people here but how you present yourself determines the type of help you receive.
Now back on track. Here are some collars that would most likely do the job:
lol… ok Liquid. I’ll try to behave. Trolls are a dime a dozen whos main objective is to crap out someone’s thread. But I am glad to see my tax dollars hard at work supporting thier welfare asses…lol.
In all seriousness though, I appreciate your straight forward advice. It is valued here. I went to sports authority and play it again sports and they dont have jack squat by way of heavy dumbell stuff.
Honestly, this is the first that I have heard of upper back helping a benchpress max; but Im going with the advice.
There is no friggin way that I can do barbell rows that heavy.
Last night I did 150lb one arm dumbell rows with a very awkward self assembled dumbell. A barbell equivellant would be 300 and to bend over with that would be suicide for my lower back.
Im trying to visualize what meat or massiveguns was saying about using the bench for support but am having difficulty. Do you know of any links of heavy barbell rows doing this using a bench for support?
[quote]benchaholic wrote:
lol… ok Liquid. I’ll try to behave. Trolls are a dime a dozen whos main objective is to crap out someone’s thread. But I am gled to see my tax dollars hard at work supporting thier welfare asses…lol.
In all seriousness though, I appreciate your straight forward advice. It is valued here. I went to sports authority and play it again sports and they dont have jack squat by way of heavy dumbell stuff.
Honestly, this is the first that I have heard of upper back helping a benchpress max; but Im going with the advice.
There is no friggin way that I can do barbell rows that heavy.
Last night I did 150lb one arm dumbell rows with a very awkward self assembled dumbell. A barbell equivellant would be 300 and to bend over with that would be suicide for my lower back.
Im trying to visualize what meat or massiveguns was saying about using the bench for support but am having difficulty. Do you know of any links of heavy barbell rows doing this using a bench for support?
Thanks again Bro
–Bench[/quote]
this is my bread and butter row movement.
the back strength really becomes an issue when you are pausing a bench on the chest. touch and go benching isn’t as crucial but rowing the weight down, building tension in the lats to allow yourslef to hold that weight at the chest and then having the power to press off the chest without dipping the bar requires tremendous upper back and bicep strength.
Tax dollars don’t support trolls, idiocy and arguing with them supports trolls.
Upper back strength is paramount to huge benches. Just ask the guys at westside barbell, where guys have benched 700, 800, 900 lbs.
Your bench is likely to get you killed. It’s a bit high, a bit narrow, and most likely can’t support the amount of weight your lifting. It’s probably over the weight limit when you’re benching (400 lbs weight limit most likely). If your bench breaks while you have weight in your hands, you’re likely to die. Your arms will snap and compress as they hit the floor when your bench breaks, you’ll then have 465 or whatever you’ve got in your hands coming down onto your sternum, shattering it, likely breaking your back as well.
BTW ass bite, provoking a response is what I do for a living. If you dont like it…get over it and troll another thread.[/quote]
