Boilerman wants all the food
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Ha, judging from my recent unplanned and undeserved weight loss, it seems like I NEED all the food.
Squats
135x10
225x5
275x5
315x5
FS
135x5
185x1
185x1
Axle clean and press away
33x10
53x10
73x10
103x5
123x5
Poundstone curls
1x100
Lots of body English about 3/4 of the way through those curls. I can barely straighten out my arms and forearms and grip are toast. Definitely keeping these in the rotation. Going to work on staying strict-ish to 100
Squats still feeling heavy, press felt decent enough. Really dig the axle… Haven’t weighed it, butt the site says 33lbs so I’ll roll with that until I properly weigh it.
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No lifting today. I am thinking of starting a Thursday through Sunday schedule this week and continue with it until wife’s/work/life plans change. Should line up well so that day 2 and 3 after squat and deads will fall on the weekend. DOMS should be a little, teeny, tiny bit more.managable when I am not absolutely forced to do additional movement outside of lifting.
I am sore as hell today. Quads, biceps, forearms and shoulders are all feeling it. Went on a rampage buying food the past couple days, and have an order in for more plazma and micro PA. It should be enough to get me through beginners and possibly part way through intermediate. Might just use the full 2 scoops of plazma on the 10x10 stuff and half the dose for bench/pull-up days.
I went through the numbers on the lifts bridging between beginner and intermediate… and am no longer excited. I am actually scared shitless. I will list out each lift, my max, a current rep max, the beginner number, and the intermediate number
Squat-
Max- 385-405ish?
Rep max- 315x17
Beg- 10x10 at 275
Inter- 8 to 100 at 315
DL
Max- 435-445ish
Rep max- 405x6
Beg- 10x10 at 315
Inter- 8 to 100 at 360
OHP (will likely be using axle, but using ohp numbers for now)
Max- 145
Rep max- 135x6? 8?
Beg- 10x10 at 105?
Inter- 8 to 100 at 120
The numbers listed seem extremely ambitious and I’m unsure whether or not I’ll be able to pull it off, especially on press and deadlift. I was considering starting the program this Thursday but, damn, I’m not sure if I’m ready for this.
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Both time I’ve run it, I’ve used less than 80% for intermediate. I think 75% is more in the realm of doable.
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That looks absolutely terrifying to me. I think I’m too old to ever try Deepwater.
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Looking at the numbers it does seem more do-able… still scary as hell.
Same man. I am certainly not excited to start, but that’s where I have found the most progress, so back in I go.
You may be able to steal some qualities of deepwater and incorporate that into your training, though? Rest time manipulation is an awesome way to progress, and I honestly really like the assistance work that’s written out in the program, too.
Well, I have a long way to go before I run out of progress using my bastardized 5/3/1 template. We’ll see how I feel once the time comes to mix things up, though. I know some of the strongest people on here swear by it. 10x10 at a heavy weight on any main lift would probably overpower my recovery capacity, since even when I’ve done 5x10 FSL sets in 5/3/1 it’s wrecked me. I may dissect it and see what it looks like I might be able to incorporate, though.
That’s why I dug that. 80% was just “oh f**k me that’s impossible”, while 75% was “oh f–k me…I better start eating”
Definitely, the book decent enough for a read through for the motivation factor alone haha.
Haha, yeah man… I’m already front loading beef in anticipation… I’ll definitely keep the 75% in mind, and likely run it that way. I might try a week at 80 if I’m feely extraordinarily frisky
I still love reading about Deep Water workouts with Jon…and I will sometimes open up the book on my kindle app at the grocery store to see if something is “Jon Andersen approved”
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Last night and into today, the bicep and forearm DOMs have been absolutely insane. Can’t straighten out my arms without ridiculous pain. Think I went a little bit too HAM on those poundstones and pushed waaayyyy past failure.
Also noticed quad and shoulder DOMs a bit more than is typical for the lifting I’ve been doing. Might take another week to re acclimate to lifting and life before beginning deepwater, and to get some more food into my body. I have been eating normally since last Thursday but I still feel hungry pretty much all the time. I’d like to get all of this figured out before starting.
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Squat
135x10
225x5
275x5
315x3
340x1
315 3x1
DL all mixed grip
135x5
225x5
315x5 hold at the top for 10 seconds to stretch biceps
Pull up
5x5 at bw
My biceps felt like they were going to snap on deadlifts and I didn’t want to test it by going any heavier. Attempted hitting 365 and I felt it right away in my arms and lower back. Joints are feeling trashed.
Feeling supremely beat up right now… Pretty typical after a deload but this has been quite a bit more intense than I’m used to. I’m hoping next week I’ll be ramping back up. Honestly pretty pissed that I feel this shitty right now.
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I’ve never pulled mixed grip so I have no personal experience, but I have read on the internet so I’m an expert. Lol
I’ve seen it stated that if you’re not careful and don’t leave your swapped arm completely locked out you can tear your bicep pretty easily.
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Haha yeah man I’ve seen some gruesome videos and heard some horror stories. I exclusively used mixed up until deepwater and I only pulled mixed today to try and stretch my biceps after the poundstone curls. I’ve been having some serious DOMs the past day or so and having them be fully stretched out felt outstanding, but also made.it feel like they were gonna pop ha
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Something I found useful for saving biceps is doing all your deadlift sets double overhand until you can feel your grip slipping then swapping to mixed. Also try reverse grip dead hangs to stretch your arms out a bit
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I will definitely try this, thanks man
That is what I used to do, but I’ve been on a mixed grip hiatus for the past 6+ months, so I figured more form practice=better. My biceps and grip aren’t ever an issue with mixed though. The only reason I did deadlifts without straps yesterday was to stretch out my biceps and engage forearms as much as possible. The DOMs from curls the other day have been relentless and the only way to get my arms straight is to force them into the fully stretched position… it’s definitely.painful but allows full rom for a short.period of time after stretching.
I’m 99% sure my body just absolutely hates me for what I’ve done to it the past week, from 26 hrs of travelling, lack of sleep, flipping sleep pattern on its head, back to work, change in diet, back to lifting etc… it just doesn’t know what to do with everything I’m throwing at it. Once I get back into a groove I’ll be good. Until then, I think I’m going to have to force myself into some uncomfortable situations to re adapt to the work load.
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The big boiler comeback shall begin shortly
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Squats
135x10
225x5
275x5
315x1
340x1
365x1
275x7
Bench
135x5
165x5
185x1
205x1
225x0
135x16
A few sets of pull ups SS between bench
Not even close on the 225 bench.
That 365 squat was the slowest I’ve ever done, and the closest I’ve come to giving up on a squat. I’m just not able to find the power. Going to keep hammering away at it until I can feel good about starting DW.
Edit: wanted to add that I have been feeling a bit better both mentally and physically. DOMS from last week are gone, but joint pain is still hanging around in the shoulders elbows and wrists. I’m still losing weight somehow, weighed in at 197 this morning. I think once I’m able to stop the weight loss my issues will be fixed.
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Throughout lawn mowing/ weed whacking
7 sets
Reverse grip axle curl x20
BTN axle press x 20
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