I downloaded the Ebook, I’m not doing it anytime before late summer but I’m already getting scared lol
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Haha hell yes dude. I was going to say you won’t regret it, but that’d be a lie. You’ll regret it while it’s happening and try to block it out on non lifting days.
Yeah… I had the book for about a year before I even mentioned it on here. Consider yourself committed now haha
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Knew it, awesome group 
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Great work mate. Quality
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Definitely. Pretty influential in how I used to write my stuff too. Listening back on old recordings I know exactly the point in time where I first discovered them haha.
I can’t listen to them a lot, usually only once every couple of months but I really do love them. Same thing with Brand New.
Thank you man!
If you haven’t already, you should check out Jon Hopkins.
I definitely listen to the emo side of things, but I never got into Brand New for some reason. I think it may have a lot to do with the recent drama surrounding Jesse.
I most certainly will
Yeah I read some stuff about this. I started listening to them in the early/mid 2000’s, well before anything like that came out. Pretty despicable tbh. I try my best to separate the music from the person though. I can appreciate their music and the way it makes me feel and still think the guy is a piece of shit.
It’s kind of crazy looking back on most of the larger bands we used to play with and how they acted. A lot of egotistical chest thumping and naivety being taken advantage of. It’s really upsetting, especially since I’m assuming the majority of the scumbags haven’t had any form of punishment.
Superb ya big fucking unit. That’s how the big boys roll my man
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That definitely changes things. It’s a lot easier to choose not to get invested in an artist’s work if poor behavior has already been made public, and I hadn’t engaged with the music much if at all previously. Way more difficult if the band already means something to you.
I think the line here is fuzzy. I think this is an attitude I must adopt, because very recent evidence revealed that the lead singer of one of my favorite bands did similar stuff years ago. Needless to say, I am disappointed.
When you listen to a group for so long and support them much more than the casual fan, it feels disturbing and betraying. I haven’t listened to said band since reading this about a month ago. My best friend’s all-time favorite band kicked out a member late last year after rumors surfaced on the web long before that, but they were a bit short on the apology. Even I felt that way, though, not to give them a pass, it’s difficult to overcome that sort of thing. She doesn’t really listen to them anymore, which still shocks me a little.
I’m sure many other band members have acted out of line, and we may never find out about it. At least social media makes it easier for the brave to come forward or to at least amplify evidence (e.g. The Killers last year).
Right, it’s so ugly. It seems like a lot of groups at worst fade away from the music scene, but nothing really happens. In the emo genre I feel like it’s almost harder to find groups who haven’t had accusations against them. It dilutes my trust in interacting with bands after shows (when those hopefully become a thing again). I’ve never personally had a negative interaction, but I have witnessed my friends in slightly questionable situations once or twice.
It definitely puts a consumer in a hard position, and in turn is up to the consumer whether or not it’s something they can look past to enjoy the art. I don’t think anyone NEEDS to look past any terrible choice someone makes, but if they’re able to look beyond it and appreciate a creation, great. If not, then that’s fine too. It’s all down to someone’s personal beliefs and ability to separate the person from the piece.
This is obviously an opinion on the matter. Not saying my feelings on the subject are absolute, but I’ve had this conversation many, many times and I come out on the other end feeling the same way every time, especially if there is a band in question and not just a solo artist.
In my experience as someone who used to play out often, attempts happened frequently. You seem like a very smart person with your wits about you, and I can’t imagine you’d have a hard time telling someone to fuck off if put in a bad situation, although anything can happen. Always having a friend nearby or with you is probably the best way to navigate those situations.
The shows I’ve been to lately are far from what they used to be. Typically the band wants to get out of dodge, on to the next city to rest and relax. I’m probably a bit disconnected from the scene, though…
Edit: to add, most of what I’m talking about is mid/late 2000s… 2006-2010 ish. After that I was in a band that played much smaller venues and less frequently just due to the style of music. The recent band was much less focused on hanging out after the show with other bands.
Deepwater Intermediate
W5D2
Push press, 8 sets to 100 reps at 130lb
11, 11, 11, 10, 9, 7, 8, 7
BB curl 5x10 at 65lb
Planks and sit ups
Actually had a decent press day. Ended up taking less than 6 mins rest on all push press sets. My elbows and shoulders were both feeling pretty shitty throughout. Hit more reps in these 8 sets than the 9 sets weeks, so, progress had been made it seems.
Dropped bb curls from 80 to 65 to help my elbows out a bit.
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For sure. I don’t think we disagree.
A small digression, but something that sort of irks me nowadays with cancel culture is that people expect bands to take outright political stances or else. The funny thing is that the fans who act like it’s an artist’s job to also be a politician do very little in their own lives to support political causes. I mean, it’s nice to know that the artists I support aren’t Nazis, but I think people take this too far.
For sure. Honestly, I think in some situations looking like a 12 year-old pays off (unless someone is a real weirdo). Said friends were younger than me but definitely looked more “of age.” I moved states not too long ago, so I don’t have anyone to go to shows with me anymore (worse music scene + COVID = only having been to 1 here so far). But before then it would usually be 50/50. It definitely feels a little better to have someone with you while queuing for ages or especially when waiting after the show in the dark in the freezing cold with few others around.
That’s been true for me in the mid 2010s to 2020 if the band was big. Sometimes I’d still wait around for them in case, and I’ve gotten lucky more often than not. My genuine interactions have definitely been with smaller bands, whom I respect a lot for doing that. It’s not easy. I’m never upset if a band wants to flee the scene to relax, and a lot of the time, there is no time to make that choice anyway.
Now I’m clogging your log, but clearly I miss shows a little bit…
Absolutely agree. That’s not what artists sign up for in the first place. Sure they are a source of influence (if people want to go that far), but expecting a band to take a stance on anything is beyond their scope of work and in my opinion completely unwarranted. This is unless they have themes of politics in their music, such as rage against the machine. Then I’d expect them to speak publicly about their thoughts so I’d be able to take my stance on them talking out their ass or not.
Yeah I would imagine it’d be better to have someone there with you, if not just for safety but boredoms sake as well haha.
Yeah a lot of the lesser known or followed bands are just really, really cool people. No ego and everything to prove. I’ve gotten to meet a few of my favorite artists and 99% of them were outstanding people. Normally it’s just me letting them know that what they do has an impact on me and that I appreciate them, a quick 2 minute chat. That 1% that’s left over is pretty horrible though. Egotistical, holier than thou, thinking they can do whatever they want.
No worries. My log has been 100% lifting lately, which is great, but I do have other hobbies and thoughts and I’m cool with talking about whatever in here.
Jesus, congrats on the squats man. I had bad PTSDs of 20-reppers watching you do it. You beast!
Meh, when you listen to the genre I do, you learn to listen for the music and stop caring about the artist. Artists are people, they have opinions and flaws just as we do. I listen to some very, very questionable artists.
“L’Art pour l’Art”.
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Thanks dude!
There is definitely this as well, and shock and awe. Could all be an act to stir up controversy.
However, and correct me if I’m wrong, but I think @Bagsy is referring to bands that have no place taking political stances… They have no themes in their music that should invoke a reaction to wonder what their views are on things.its more of a “if you’re not (insert political/world view here) then we should protest against you” and needing to know individual artists view on things, when it’s not at all warranted.
Unfortunately social media and all has made this happening… We make people that shouldn’t take political stances take them. Well for the usual reason: gain power, sympathy, coverage etc. Probably there’s money involved as well
Yeah, I have seen so many artists beaten with abuse over not taking deliberate stances. It’s invasive and unwarranted. Like, what have these critics done in their lives besides play Twitter police? Probably nothing.
I still take care to know if a band’s members have done rather than simply said shitty things. It doesn’t mean I will absolutely never listen to them, but, well, I might not go out of my way. It’s a bigger deal when you don’t just listen to the music.
Opinions are one thing, but people also do horrendous things, and artists are not immune to doing so. It is unsettling to learn that a band you’ve met on more than one occassion, on whom you’ve splurged money on merch and or show tickets, etc. has done something like that. I have a lot of music-related tattoos, and even though they’re very much tied to the group’s music rather than the group itself, it would still feel at least a little weird to me to later learn something unsavory. Fortunately I’ve not experienced that, but I have seen many who have.
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Deepwater Intermediate
W5D3
Power clean 8 sets to 100 reps at 145lb
14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 11, 11, 8
Clean pull 3x10 at 145lb
I still owe ab work later today
Felt ok coming into today, minus the crazy leg doms again. I don’t feel like they’re as bad as they have been normally but we’ll see for sure tomorrow. Have some work to do around the house and wedding stuff the remainder.of the day. Gotta find some.time to eat too. Haven’t had anything yet. Worked all morning, took the dog for a walk then lifted. Shits getting busy again
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Honestly I dread this even more than squats. Great job!
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Thanks man!
Yeah they both suck haha. Either way my quads=toast.
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