Not sure if “easier” is the right word here, but I think people’s numbers are generally a bit higher when seated on a bench with back support. Numbers will be more similar to standing without back support.
Okay, now this sounds like something I would say if I were in your situation 
If I may share some 2c, have you tried starting with the bar racked as if you were gonna do a standing OHP and then sit down afterwards? I just feel that’s better than cleaning the bar up. That way, you can set up more tightly and use bulldog grip, which I find should be more stable and easier on the wrists. YMMV. Of course it may need some getting used to, initially.
I’ve never tried seated OHP with a barbell, but in my experience, DB OHP seated is easier than strict standing DB OHP. There’s much more core demand from the standing DB OHP that sometimes it’s the core that’s the limiting factor. From a sports performance perspective, I much prefer that. Again, just my experiences.
Haha, Idk. I feel like given my bodyweight I should be pressing way more than I am right now. You, on the other hand, can grind them out. I’m certain your bw to press ratio is way better than mine.
@whang dude always feel free to jump in. I have tried walking out the bar and sitting but it didn’t feel “right”, which could just be me not trying it enough. I’m so used to doing it the way I have been for a couple years, anything else feels wrong.
Never heard of a bulldog grip, any links or explanations as to what that is?
I have yet to feel my core be taxed in a ohp workout… it’s been mostly triceps or front delts that prevent me from finishing a rep. Would it be at all possible that standing would help me in the press?
Sure, I haven’t done seated ohp in a while but in the past while seated with back support I could do significantly more than standing. Without back support I find it significantly harder to stabilize than either of the two aforementioned variations. Shouldn’t make or break you but it’s something that might have an impact since OHP is all about bracing, for me at least.
It’s the equivalent of hook grip for deadlifts. Bulldog grip is for presses
It’s the middleman between suicide grip and full grip. You should be able to get the best of both worlds with this grip
Likely a huge factor. A drastic form change always doesn’t always feel right and can seemingly set you back a lot.
Ehmm…not an expert or strong enough to answer, but probably it should. Being good at standing OHP requires you to really brace for it. with your midsection and glutes. You probably should wait for pwn to answer lol
Yeah I have been trying to keep the lift as close to a standing press as possible so no back support. Im probably going to add in some DB presses for assistance and direct tricep work somehow from here on out. Maybe it’ll even help me grow my noodle arms.
@whang thanks for the videos man! Will watch them today and experiment after my deadlift deload workout either today or tomorrow.
Happy holidays everybody
Should probably work, I love CGBP as a supplemental lift, would recommend that if it’s not in your rotation. Adds quite a bit of muscle and should help both presses.
Another thought I just had was trying to get braced before you sit down. Clean the weight into position, pull the shoulders back and down, squeeze the lats then sit down. Might get you into a sturdier position to start with.
Happy holidays to you too
Don’t most people feel this way?
Highly doubt this. My best ever press was 75 pounds at 120-125 BW… nothing to write home about at all. Your BW is in the low 200s, right? So our ratios are likely close if yours is not a bit better.
Pressing engages the core immensely, but if you really wanted to “feel it,” you could perhaps try Z-pressing that makes me feel my core significantly more than any other pressing variation. Brian Alsruhe is a fan. But these are all simply different movements, and they’re not that radically different. I wouldn’t recommend fixing what isn’t broken if you aren’t competing in something involving a particular one. You could find a successful person employing any or all of the variations, really.
This is the one time being short is good. If I were only a few inches taller (which I would otherwise want so dearly), I’d also be unable to do standing press in my basement.
Ha, yeah it seems like there are many people on tnation that feel their press should be better than it is. Might just be that we all put in the work and expect better results.
Yeah I weigh some where in the 210-213 ballpark. I still say your ability to grind out press reps far surpasses mine. I’ve seen the vids in your log and every time I think it’s your last rep you hit 3-4 more.
Might be a good assistance movement for some upcoming cycles!
lol one of the benefits of being vertically challenged for sure.
I have a split level house, which means I can palm the ceiling in every single room and I hate it. There are two areas that I’m going to rip the ceilings down and vault them so that’s no longer the case. I’m not a super tall guy but even I feel boxed in with such short ceilings.
I guess I’m a little weird? My best presses were 40kg x 10 reps and 47.5kg x 1
My best bench press were 57.5kg x 10 reps and 60kg x 6
(reps and max weight, respectively)
based on E1RMs and lifter percentile on strengthlevel.com, my BP is way weaker than my press.
I just did my current actual maxes in that calculator. OHP and bench, I’m in the 25th percentile and squat/DL are right around 50% which is sort of what I was expecting.
Definitely going to shift focus a bit from squat and DL to pressing in some upcoming cycles. @whang how much do you weigh?
Maybe we all need to be @dagill2 and make it the goal 
You could try… trying? 
Kidding, you’re clearly putting forth the effort.
I think CWS discussed this, how he can lift everything super smoothly and quickly as he pyramids up in weight… but then he simply fails. Whereas other people like me are a bit better at grinding out reps than others and might even be “slower” on some or all movements.
@whang Of course everyone is different, and it is possible that you’re a relatively better presser than bencher. But maybe you don’t use enough leg drive or something like that on the bench.
Yeah I’ve actually mentioned that in this log before, everything feels great up to a certain weight and then I just can’t move it. Even after only a 10lb jump. If I’m doing an amrap I know once the bar speed slows, that’s it, I only have maybe one rep left.
I don’t think I’ve ever actually failed a squat rep but I’m sure I’ve failed dozens of bench or ohps
And I’ve been following along in @dagill2 log as well, and maybe that’s exactly what I need, pure press focus while doing my best to maintain everything else
I’m on the press train as well…89th percentile for deadlift, 91st for squat…73rd for bench and 63rd for press. I need to be less dogshit at pressing and am gonna do something about it. I do notice that my pressing responds best to volume so I might try BBB or something like that next.
@Bagsy @boilerman I’m not sure I count as a role model here, I wouldn’t say my press focussed experiment has been an unmitigated success although I will do a quick “recap” at some point. But I do absolutely see the value of giving the press a greater focus than most programs do.
There always deep water…
Deload
Deadlift
135x10
205x5
265x4
315x3
355x1
385x1 (10lb PR)
Holiday fun is over, so I will not be having any more alcohol this weekend. 385 moved a bit slower than I imagined it would so I gotta step my game up a bit on the nutrition and recovery fronts. Anchor starts Monday.
I dunno I thought that was pretty fast lol
@Bagsy yeah it wasn’t a grind or anything but I’m used to just ripping them off the floor ha, and honestly it gives me confidence in going for the jokers in the anchor. I think I could manage another 40lbs on it?
@dagill2 true, but that is life right? I guarantee you’re better at pressing now than you were before you started.
@garagerocker13 those are outstanding percentiles to be in man. I for sure wouldn’t say you’re dogshit at pressing, but we are all our own worst critics. If it lights a fire under your ass then maybe it’s a good thing we think that way about ourselves every once and a while. I know it helps me.
I’d say that for my size and training age I’m pretty bad at upper body lifts, but I do use it to light a fire under my ass rather than sulk.
Also, that deadlift looked great for a PR weight. I know exactly how it felt though because when my reps are that speed they feel way too heavy and glacier-slow. Being a speed guy instead of a grinder is really deceptive, isn’t it??