I saw a new Lockup Raw show last night. Apparently, in some prisons, some men can get a hold of a lot of food. This one guy who had several schemes going, had a connection with someone who works in the kitchen. This guy had air-tight packed sausage, mackerel, a tremendous block of government cheese, condiments, onions, peppers, and some other stuff in his room. He threw all this shit together in a bowl, then layered the whole thing slices of cheese, and then heat it up in the microwave. It must have been at least a 1,000 calories. And this guy WAS jacked for a prisoner; not ready for a bodybuilding show, but pretty darn thick, AND lean. If this guy was on the outside, he’d have the potential to be enormous. But this prison showed must be a medium-security prison because the inmates were allowed to roam freely in their blocks for some time during the day.
He made one of these concoctions for his friend and advised the guy to eat it in “layers” when he saw him mixing it all up. I guess he didn’t want him to ruin his unique culinary skills and to get a chance to savor the various textures and flavors of the dish.
[quote]bennidiesel wrote:
Thats on you to deny, i know what ive seen, so you can take it as it is. [/quote]
You sound like every other person who has ever claimed bullshit to be true on the internet.
I’d say a major reason for the perception the general public has that prisoners are big and jacked is due to how they are portrayed on TV and in the movies.
Think of shows like Oz etc.
like i said before, i don’t understand why people can’t see it has everything to do with the incredible semen intake…
per nut: 40 gm protein, 0 gm fat, 1 gm carbs. forget optimum nutrition, this is the true muscle milk.
drop the soap post-workout and you’ll be anabolic all night.
When i was in highschool, some idiot says out loud to his friends but the whole class heard, “man i just wanna go to prison for a few months to get real buff you know? because if you dont u get stabbed or some shit”
Ill never forget how fucken stupid some people are, a 17 year old saying he wants to go to prison to ‘get buff’.
Give props to prisoners
All we’ve ever wanted
is to look good naked
hope that someone can take it
God save me rejection
from my reflection
I want perfection.
Y
two things to consider, how many times they’ve been to jail how long, and how old. When you consider most generalities like these are made by teenagers, you can see how it is true.
When you don’t see somebody for 6 months and then they come back 40lbs heavier your going to think everybody in jail is big as hell. But thats what happens when you lock a teen in peak testosterone years a away with nothing but pushups a few weights and bread and eggs all day.
But people who go back and forth to jail and get comfortable tend to lose focus, and learn how to kill time without working out. They learn the ropes, who to hang with, how to watch they’re favorite shows … and stop getting bigger and/or caring.
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
"725… "
I really need to write a book about all these World record holding Gym lifters that everyone knows. It seems like everyone i talk to at the gym knows someone that has benched 600 and squatted over 700. [/quote]
They all know you.
there are of course some pwerlifting success stories that do come out of prisons. Ron palmer who was once the WPO world champion at 165lbs and considered the strongest man pound for pound in powerlifting at the time started powerlifting in prison in plainfield IN. i know this becasue my brotehr in law is the rec supervisor there and worked with him on the inside. I met him after he got out and trained wiht him several times (its hard watching a guy 100 lbs lighter than you make you feel like a puss). I remember him once saying “you know how it feel when you pick up 225…well thats how it feels to me to pick up 600”. truly a genetically gifted individual. Unfortunatley Ron turned back to a life of crime and went on a bank robbery spree (seriously look it up) and was apprehended after a interesting police chase in INdianapolis and is now serving time AGAIN in prison in KY.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I know quite a few people that have been locked up, and they don’t allow weights at county jails in NJ. Prisoners did tons of pushups, situps, and pullups, as much as they could. They came up with other ways to work out as well, because their lives somewhat depend on it. Inside, size equals respect.
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Righhhhhhht. And then they got out and made u their bitch, seeming how u remind them of their girlfriend on the inside. You dont know what the fuck you are talking about.
I actually got to write to a prisoner one time as part of a school assignment, and I asked him about the supposedly jacked prisoners and how they could be that way with lack of nutrition and at times inadequate equipment. He replied with the same stuff some have already mentioned, such as being able to get extra food from the commissary and the number of jacked inmates being greatly exaggerated by the media. He gave me the lift numbers of all the strongest guys, of which there were only a few. I wish I could remember but they weren’t super impressive by outside standards. He mentioned that their maxes were done “without a suit.” I’m guessing he was talking about powerlifting gear?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You have to realize that to the average sedentary person, anyone with arms much over 15-16" is considered “big”…or at least bigger than any of them are getting by hardly ever working out. therefore, any group that even shows marginal progress gets labeled as jacked permanently…and I agree, many of the bigger guys were already bigger before they ever went to jail.
It is the same bullshit as those who think going to bootcamp somehow makes you jacked…simply because some underweight guys may actually gain a little. the truth is, anyone with any real size on them will probably lose size during bootcamp and anyone truly getting that much more defined as a result of it was likely damn near immobile before they went in.
People like to believe in short cuts…as in, the hard work isn’t what got them big, there must be something MAGICAL about prison or bootcamp that somehow makes men out of weaklings.
I guess if being incarcerated is the only way you can get some people to actually lift weights with seriousness and intensity, it shows that some simply do not have it in them unless their fucking lives are at risk.[/quote]
I think its just been sensationalised like x said lots of guys gain a bit or get leaner and the general public will be amazed. Going off drugs and getting 3 decent meals will put size on, and they do workout everyday which is more than your average person.
The prison in my home town had NO weights. the guys in there would do squats with another guy sitting on their shoulders and bench with a broomstick will 10litre bottles on them and curls with garbage bags filled with water.
none of them where very big, but they were in shape.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]younggully wrote:
They train everyday and their bodies and cns has adapted to it. If you’re doing twenty years behind bars I don’t think you’d be to worried about over training. Just proves that all these fancy smancy programs and supplements are good, but not imperative. [/quote]
Sorry but I disagree with just about everything you say here.
If they have adapted to it then they no longer see any changes. After all adaption means that a new form of homeostasis exists and no more adaption occurs.
If you mean that their bodies have become used to poor quality, carb-rich foods then you are possibly right. They have become fat as a form of adaption, lol.
“If you are doing 20 years behind bars I doubt you’d be worried about overtraining”. Possibly, but I bet you’d be more worried about prison life in general. The worry and stress over the prison pecking order, your psycho roomie, whether you are going to be shanked for an imaginary slight, etc, etc. This is going to affect cortisol massively IMO. We know what cortisol does to a physique.
And did you not read the main point of Bricks’ argument, ie that the physiques are not very impressive? I agree with him. I have not seen any prison physiques (on TV) that are impressive. Sure, there are some large guys, but I would bet they were naturally large before they went inside.
I’ll ask a BB friend of mine who has been inside on several occasions and get his take on it.
BBB[/quote]
It just seems like some of those guys got decent physiques without high tech supps n such. I see guys in the gym that make very little progress while they’re sucking on shakes, creatine, nox and all. Just makes me wonder does anything trump hard work? I doubt it.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]younggully wrote:
They train everyday and their bodies and cns has adapted to it. If you’re doing twenty years behind bars I don’t think you’d be to worried about over training. Just proves that all these fancy smancy programs and supplements are good, but not imperative. [/quote]
OK, what does this have to do with my post?[/quote]
Just an ill-attempted hijacking.
[quote]younggully wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]younggully wrote:
They train everyday and their bodies and cns has adapted to it. If you’re doing twenty years behind bars I don’t think you’d be to worried about over training. Just proves that all these fancy smancy programs and supplements are good, but not imperative. [/quote]
OK, what does this have to do with my post?[/quote]
Just an ill-attempted hijacking.[/quote]
You have a fair point: you don’t need anything fancy to get jacked, or actually fucking huge for that matter! I’ve always made my best progress WITHOUT a fancy diet or supplements or equipment or programming. Would or can I get more gains if I implemented some fancy shit or other supplements? Maybe or probably.
But I’m the type of guy–and perhaps this says I’m a bit lazy in some areas–that doesn’t like to focus on so many damn things going on at once with a HOBBY! You know, something FUN! With all the stressors in life and other things I like doing (eg, women, friends, going out, some other recreational and profession-related activities), I have no mental energy leftover for constantly tracking calories and consuming pills and powders at specified times; it just irritates the shit out of me and I find it grueling.
Now, if you compete, that’s a different story. Then you really have to step it up a notch and eat, shit, sleep, breathe bodybuilding. That’s more than I do, and I think I’m pretty damn consistent and have made great gains.
But in the end, even the biggest, most advanced guys don’t do much fancy shit. Dorian Yates had the damn simplest program and diet. Same goes for a lot of the other guys. They eat the same shit as us and they do the same sorts of routines we do.
Take a look at Dorian’s leg routine:
Leg extensions (Poliquin unapproved)
Leg presses
Hack sqats
Take a look at his breakfast:
Egg whites
Oatmeal
Whole wheat toast
Fruit
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]younggully wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]younggully wrote:
They train everyday and their bodies and cns has adapted to it. If you’re doing twenty years behind bars I don’t think you’d be to worried about over training. Just proves that all these fancy smancy programs and supplements are good, but not imperative. [/quote]
OK, what does this have to do with my post?[/quote]
Just an ill-attempted hijacking.[/quote]
You have a fair point: you don’t need anything fancy to get jacked, or actually fucking huge for that matter! I’ve always made my best progress WITHOUT a fancy diet or supplements or equipment or programming. Would or can I get more gains if I implemented some fancy shit or other supplements? Maybe or probably.
But I’m the type of guy–and perhaps this says I’m a bit lazy in some areas–that doesn’t like to focus on so many damn things going on at once with a HOBBY! You know, something FUN! With all the stressors in life and other things I like doing (eg, women, friends, going out, some other recreational and profession-related activities), I have no mental energy leftover for constantly tracking calories and consuming pills and powders at specified times; it just irritates the shit out of me and I find it grueling.
Now, if you compete, that’s a different story. Then you really have to step it up a notch and eat, shit, sleep, breathe bodybuilding. That’s more than I do, and I think I’m pretty damn consistent and have made great gains.
But in the end, even the biggest, most advanced guys don’t do much fancy shit. Dorian Yates had the damn simplest program and diet. Same goes for a lot of the other guys. They eat the same shit as us and they do the same sorts of routines we do.
Take a look at Dorian’s leg routine:
Leg extensions (Poliquin unapproved)
Leg presses
Hack sqats
Take a look at his breakfast:
Egg whites
Oatmeal
Whole wheat toast
Fruit[/quote]
yes…but dont forget to take a look at dorians chemicals.
You’re right, something like Dorian’s approach couldn’t possibly work for a natty, huh?
Jesus…
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
You’re right, something like Dorian’s approach couldn’t possibly work for a natty, huh?
Jesus…
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naw your right…expect to look like dorian.
[quote]Beast Status wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
You’re right, something like Dorian’s approach couldn’t possibly work for a natty, huh?
Jesus…
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naw your right…expect to look like dorian.[/quote]
What an idiotic answer.
It doesn’t matter what training methodology you follow as a natty, you aren’t going to end up at 260-270 lean at average height… Which everyone in here is well aware of.
Dorian’s training style is quite popular among natural trainees though, and that’s because it works.
Do your comments have a point, or did you just come in here to annoy people?