Bodybuilding Routines from Time to Time?

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]jacob-1310 wrote:
man i thought i was doing LATT good. What id do is after main sets on dynamic day id just load barbel up with 5 kg extra and go to failure if i was on bench press. For squats id just just drop 5 - 10 kg and do as many reps as possible then move unto accessories. but the 25 sets sounds insane haha. [/quote]

The point is to do as many first reps as possible, keep the best form possible, and move the weight as fast as possible. You have the right idea but force production and rep quality will decrease significantly when you go to failure. Keeping the rest short and doing a buttload of sets gives you the same feeling but you can maintain good form and speed… even though you feel like you are going to die after the 6-7th set

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[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]jacob-1310 wrote:
man i thought i was doing LATT good. What id do is after main sets on dynamic day id just load barbel up with 5 kg extra and go to failure if i was on bench press. For squats id just just drop 5 - 10 kg and do as many reps as possible then move unto accessories. but the 25 sets sounds insane haha. [/quote]

The point is to do as many first reps as possible, keep the best form possible, and move the weight as fast as possible. You have the right idea but force production and rep quality will decrease significantly when you go to failure. Keeping the rest short and doing a buttload of sets gives you the same feeling but you can maintain good form and speed… even though you feel like you are going to die after the 6-7th set[/quote]

STB are you changing your grip on the bench during these? Or changing foot placement on the squat? Or do you keep it constant?

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[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]jacob-1310 wrote:
man i thought i was doing LATT good. What id do is after main sets on dynamic day id just load barbel up with 5 kg extra and go to failure if i was on bench press. For squats id just just drop 5 - 10 kg and do as many reps as possible then move unto accessories. but the 25 sets sounds insane haha. [/quote]

The point is to do as many first reps as possible, keep the best form possible, and move the weight as fast as possible. You have the right idea but force production and rep quality will decrease significantly when you go to failure. Keeping the rest short and doing a buttload of sets gives you the same feeling but you can maintain good form and speed… even though you feel like you are going to die after the 6-7th set[/quote]

dude i can imagine death after 6 - 7th. What weight do you use? 50%? also completely off topic but do you use bands at all ? and if so ( if you do a dynamic day) how much band weight do you add and is band weight the same as normal weight? I think i remember louie simmons talking about having 40% normal weight & 40% band weight (could be wrong though).

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]jarhead316 wrote:
Did any of you guys follow a specific ‘program’ when you did the bodybuilding. Or did you just do a general body part split?

I am interested in putting on some upperbody size and was looking into programing. I guess I am so used to strength training programs and how they need to be relatively precise…is BB the same thing or just go with moderate-high volume and hit each body part each day (generally speaking)?[/quote]

I followed Dogg Crapp for a few months. In 2 months I was able to add 10lbs to my frame, and my bench and deadlift make some good progress, but it killed my squat.

If I could do it all over again, I’d start my lower body day with the heavy squat, and then save the high rep squat for my last set of the day.[/quote]

The squat is fine where it is in the routine… If everything else progressed alright, it should have gone up too unless:

  1. there was a problem with your exercise rotation
  2. you did not progress enough to make a dent in your 1RM
  3. you should be replacing any exercise that you don’t improve by +2reps and/or a weight increase in 2 times in a row. (should not have happened to your squat in that short time though, I’m guessing it’s the rotation).
  4. of course going from doing squats first to doing them last will impact your numbers at first, it will take a little time to get back up and beyond your previous bests. You only did 4 cycles (4 chances to increase the weight), might not have been enough… Did you start at the top or over the rep range, adding weight every time (unless reps fall below range) until the end of the blast? (that has always improved my 1RM’s without fail)

Considering your other improvements, I’m guessing diet wasn’t the issue…

I’m mentioning all that because yours is quite the irregular case… Generally people either do incredibly well on the routine all over, do it wrong by taking it slow with the diet etc and thus make slow-ass gains, or simply mess up completely because they start doing it too early, don’t eat, etc.

I’ve virtually never encountered a mixed case… If you don’t mind, would you share the rotation you used (complete rotation, back work too)?

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I’ll have to dig through my logs to find out what my rotation was, it’s been a while, but what would be the detriment of squatting heavy for a single set at the beginning of the workout and then doing the WM at the end of the workout? I understanding not doing a WM first thing so that you have energy through out the rest of the routine, but I can recover from a heavier set much easier than a high rep set.[/quote]

Oh you can do it of course, but usually you shouldn’t have to (unless I guess you squat wide stance and sit back a lot even raw, might be that you started out with such a hamstring-focused squatting style that doing hams first messed things up more than it should)… Anyway, I’m curious what exercises you did for hams before squatting for example and how your weight increases went… I’m sure we’ll figure it out.