one of the better threads i have read on here lately
at my local gym i am often getting young kids approaching me asking how long have i been training for (i’m not big by any stretch of the imagination,just muscular) and what supps do i take.they always seem so dissappointed when i tell them 5 years and nothing but a good clean diet with added protein powder and fish oil caps. i manipulate calories to get bigger or leaner depending on what my current goals are.
i am sure they were expecting me to tell them about some magic pill i was taking while doing some bicep curls for the last few months!
[quote]THE-GAME wrote:
DanErickson wrote:
The other day I was at GNC buying some protein and these two kids that were probably 15 or 16 were buying NOExplode. I thought to myself… “man if you are that age and you need to take a supplement for energy then you are going to be FUCKED by the time you are 30”.
dude ur so right… a good friend of mine is always on a preworkout supplement like noexplode nanovapor or Spike and he claims he cannot workout without it. and he just turned 16. the other day he ran out of nanovapor and he said he couldn’t workout so he took the day off. if you ask me all those preworkout sups ar garbage and are more of a mental pump then a physical. [/quote]
See i don’t think it’s really the supplements that are bad…they have uses and i don’t think there is a problem with young kids starting to use them, albeit sparingly. the problem is that once they use them…they forget everything else. they latch on to the instant feedback that you get from the (insert product here) and that’s all they can think about and they forget about nutrition…
[quote]douglas16 wrote:
Good to see a fellow young’in with his head on straight.
OP, keep up the hard work and listening to the advice from the guys around here.
What are your goals and current stats?[/quote]
my goal is to be 185 - 190 on my 18th birthday.
bench - 185
deadlift - 345
squat - 225 4-6 reps i never maxed
I hate the teenagers mentality that I go to school with. Anyone that goes to teh gym will tell me the same thing. “Yo I got that NOexplode yesterday, I’m gonnna be jacked in a couple of weeks” “yo Im starting to go to teh gym because I gotta tone up and get a six pack”
It makes me very mad. At this point all I want to do is get alot bigger and be able to toss people around with ease.
[quote]Wildman90 wrote:
No offence to the dude a GNC but thats a damn good story hahahaha
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Ya I miss High School
I have seen a lot of posts from teenagers and college students saying, i need this supplement or need to change my diet “so that i can workout”.
In other words, they are saying i cant workout unless i have this or that supplement or the food in the dorm is not high quality so i cant pursue my workout program. I even read one post somewhere that said i quit my workout routine as i ran out of some supplement; though i will start it back up again once i am able to get it…I have also read where someone said i routinely eat at mcodonalds as i travel quite a bit, so i cant workout.
I think this type of thinking is just stupid. I am all for good diet and everything… but not being able to workout because of the thinking that my diet is not perfect or i dont have some supplement is just crazy…
I still eat at mcdonalds and dont take supplements and am great shape because i workout. Sure, my diet could be better or maybe supplements might help, but my exercise program is not dependent on it and i have made great gains just following a normal american diet. In someways, one could say that my exercise program allows me to get away with more as far as my diet as i dont think i could eat at mcdonalds and still look healthy if not for my exercise program.
I don’t see teens working out much anymore because the popular desire for young, adolescent males is to look like “skinny, girly fucks”.
ya I’m 15 and I must say some of the 18 year olds are pretty damn stupid, all they do is bench and curl. I currently just deadlift, squat, bench, row, clean, pullups, and dips. Teenagers need to stop worring about getting 6-packs and start gaining some weight and lift heavy. Lifting heavy correctly won’t stunt your growth, Starting Strength is a great book to teach beginners how to do the big lifts right.
Well frankly some of the things discussed in this thread are actually true…but only for certain people. Just because a percentage of teens pumps supplements into their body without knowing what the hell they are doing, while simultaneously filling their body with junk food, doesn’t mean that all teens do.
I’m 15, and I’m a huge advocate for natural body building. I play football, and alot of my friends abuse substances such as creatine in order to get stronger, without thinking twice about the consequences. I’m nothing like this however, I simply eat healthy (Haven’t even had a cheat meal in over a month) and use 100% whey protein when I can’t get enough of it in during my post workout meal.
I’ve read somewhere between 200-250 articles on this site, actively pursue information regarding nutrition and kinesiology. I’d regard myself as much more informed than a large number of adults, including adults who classify themselves as bodybuilders. Yet guess what, I’m 15.
Just because some people are retarded about what they do with their bodies doesn’t mean they all are.
I currently take creatine, fish oil, and whey protein but, quality whole foods ALWAYS come first.
[quote]NextPudzianowski wrote:
Well frankly some of the things discussed in this thread are actually true…but only for certain people. Just because a percentage of teens pumps supplements into their body without knowing what the hell they are doing, while simultaneously filling their body with junk food, doesn’t mean that all teens do.
I’m 15, and I’m a huge advocate for natural body building. I play football, and alot of my friends abuse substances such as creatine in order to get stronger, without thinking twice about the consequences. I’m nothing like this however, I simply eat healthy (Haven’t even had a cheat meal in over a month) and use 100% whey protein when I can’t get enough of it in during my post workout meal.
I’ve read somewhere between 200-250 articles on this site, actively pursue information regarding nutrition and kinesiology. I’d regard myself as much more informed than a large number of adults, including adults who classify themselves as bodybuilders. Yet guess what, I’m 15.
Just because some people are retarded about what they do with their bodies doesn’t mean they all are. [/quote]
knowledge and achievement are two different things…how does one taking creatine be considered of substance abuse?
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
NextPudzianowski wrote:
Well frankly some of the things discussed in this thread are actually true…but only for certain people. Just because a percentage of teens pumps supplements into their body without knowing what the hell they are doing, while simultaneously filling their body with junk food, doesn’t mean that all teens do.
I’m 15, and I’m a huge advocate for natural body building. I play football, and alot of my friends abuse substances such as creatine in order to get stronger, without thinking twice about the consequences. I’m nothing like this however, I simply eat healthy (Haven’t even had a cheat meal in over a month) and use 100% whey protein when I can’t get enough of it in during my post workout meal.
I’ve read somewhere between 200-250 articles on this site, actively pursue information regarding nutrition and kinesiology. I’d regard myself as much more informed than a large number of adults, including adults who classify themselves as bodybuilders. Yet guess what, I’m 15.
Just because some people are retarded about what they do with their bodies doesn’t mean they all are.
knowledge and achievement are two different things…how does one taking creatine be considered of substance abuse?[/quote]
Because they usually take more than 5g, and personally I don’t really think it’s a good idea for a teenager to take creatine in the first place. It’s effects have been proven beneficial, but that’s for adults who’s bodies aren’t still undergoing hormonal changes and development. That might be considered speculation, but I’d rather be safe than sorry.
[quote]NextPudzianowski wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
NextPudzianowski wrote:
Well frankly some of the things discussed in this thread are actually true…but only for certain people. Just because a percentage of teens pumps supplements into their body without knowing what the hell they are doing, while simultaneously filling their body with junk food, doesn’t mean that all teens do.
I’m 15, and I’m a huge advocate for natural body building. I play football, and alot of my friends abuse substances such as creatine in order to get stronger, without thinking twice about the consequences. I’m nothing like this however, I simply eat healthy (Haven’t even had a cheat meal in over a month) and use 100% whey protein when I can’t get enough of it in during my post workout meal.
I’ve read somewhere between 200-250 articles on this site, actively pursue information regarding nutrition and kinesiology. I’d regard myself as much more informed than a large number of adults, including adults who classify themselves as bodybuilders. Yet guess what, I’m 15.
Just because some people are retarded about what they do with their bodies doesn’t mean they all are.
knowledge and achievement are two different things…how does one taking creatine be considered of substance abuse?
Because they usually take more than 5g, and personally I don’t really think it’s a good idea for a teenager to take creatine in the first place. It’s effects have been proven beneficial, but that’s for adults who’s bodies aren’t still undergoing hormonal changes and development. That might be considered speculation, but I’d rather be safe than sorry.[/quote]
It’s an amino acid. It’s in food. It isn’t bad for you.
[quote]NextPudzianowski wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
NextPudzianowski wrote:
Well frankly some of the things discussed in this thread are actually true…but only for certain people. Just because a percentage of teens pumps supplements into their body without knowing what the hell they are doing, while simultaneously filling their body with junk food, doesn’t mean that all teens do.
I’m 15, and I’m a huge advocate for natural body building. I play football, and alot of my friends abuse substances such as creatine in order to get stronger, without thinking twice about the consequences. I’m nothing like this however, I simply eat healthy (Haven’t even had a cheat meal in over a month) and use 100% whey protein when I can’t get enough of it in during my post workout meal.
I’ve read somewhere between 200-250 articles on this site, actively pursue information regarding nutrition and kinesiology. I’d regard myself as much more informed than a large number of adults, including adults who classify themselves as bodybuilders. Yet guess what, I’m 15.
Just because some people are retarded about what they do with their bodies doesn’t mean they all are.
knowledge and achievement are two different things…how does one taking creatine be considered of substance abuse?
Because they usually take more than 5g, and personally I don’t really think it’s a good idea for a teenager to take creatine in the first place. It’s effects have been proven beneficial, but that’s for adults who’s bodies aren’t still undergoing hormonal changes and development. That might be considered speculation, but I’d rather be safe than sorry.[/quote]
If you’re worried about taking too much creatine, then you should probably make sure you don’t take in too much ATP as well. Or maybe just read a little, and see that it’s just the energy source your muscles use. It’s not a drug, and it’s in your food.
Edit; zephead4747 beat me to it. Damn you and your brevity.
Haha well that was just the only thing I could think of which could pertain to people I know in person. I’m not pretending like I actually know alot about creatine because I’ve never really considered taking it and haven’t done any research on it.
But replace that with other ways that teens today abuse supplements and substitute it into what I said hahaha.
He’s 15. He’s read ALOT of Internat Articles, on NUTRITION and KINESIOLOGY, he is more informed than a large number of adults…EXCEPT in basic biology…
Word from someone who was pretty smart and pretty dumb at 15 as well. Don’t make moral or value judgments until you’re like 50.
Creatine isn’t bad, ATP isn’t bad, Supps aren’t bad, I don’t even think steroids are bad.
If you don’t want to use them don’t use them, but saying shit like I KNOW KIDS WHO ABUSE CREATINE, just makes you sound like some young know-it-all dumbass.
It’s bothersome to older people to hear value judgements by anyone, but especially the young.
if you take biology in highschool you’ll learn about atp
[quote]fartmonkey64 wrote:
if you take biology in highschool you’ll learn about atp[/quote]
not my bio class
My whole issue with the current teen perception is that you need to eat perfectly and have supplements for a lifting program to work. I am not advocating anyone eat junk food or not do supplements; however, you dont need supplements and your diet can still be pretty far off while making tremendous gains (this is even more true your a teen)…
However, the perception is, that i “have” to have supplements for my program to work. As one teenager in this thread stated, i use protein powder and diet, etc… but you dont need protein powder, you just need to eat a steak and get enough calories…it does the samething…
I am more of an old timer and when i was growing up supplements were not all that popular nor did i use them (nor do i now), however, i still made great gains just using a basic steak and potato diet…
A 15 year old talking about ‘creatine abuse’ in this thread is too much irony for me to handle.