[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Their cat. This is where you make the big points. If their cat likes you then they will like you. Problem is fucking cats don’t like anybody.[/quote]
Speak for yourself.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
That laundry’s not going to fold itself little lady.[/quote]
Worse! Spring cleaning day. But it’s done now.
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Have you ever wondered what post menopausal divorced or widowed women want?
Probably not. But there may be some people here that fall into the same dating category as myself. Mature gentleman who is single and still sexually active.
Part 1. It is very simple to get laid. With maturity comes experience and probably financial security. So put me in the same room with a mature woman who has not had any action in a while and get one drink into her and I can score more often than not. Getting into a relationship with her is the very difficult part.
Part 2. Relationship. Statistics show that 80% of mature single women are perfectly happy to stay single. They are like sexual camels. They can go a very long time without scratching the itch.
They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.
Their kids. Same as their friends. Nobody wants some dude fucking their mother. You will never be good enough for the kid’s approval. So when they want you to meet their kids find any excuse to decline. Also don’t have a FaceBook account. Their kids will find it and go back as far as possible and find something to use against you.
Their cat. This is where you make the big points. If their cat likes you then they will like you. Problem is fucking cats don’t like anybody. So cheat. Put catnip in your socks. When you meet the cat, the cat will start rubbing all over your ankles and showing a lot of attention. It appears that the cat likes you. You win. [/quote]
I’m not in this category, but my best friend is 13 years older than I am, so is, and it will be here eventually for me. I can’t see much changing between now and then (insofar as family, friends, cat). I’m surprised by your want-to-stay-single statistic, but a quick google supports that at least many women feel that way. That’s not the attitude of the women I know. My friends tend to be attachment-oriented and may not be representative, however I have to imagine that much of what you’ve said is specific to either you or the women you are dating, or possibly both.
My own experience as both a friend of women who are dating and as a divorced woman myself is that people want their loved ones to be happy. I’ve recently been subjected to an in-depth interview by my boyfriend’s daughter and can say that although the daughter is watchful she’s been incredibly welcoming, as has his entire family. Mine has been the same toward him. He and I are both decent people. How can they not like either of us? His daughter’s concern is normal and I accept it cheerfully. He’s a dad with protective kid - a good sign in my opinion. Do I want to be in a relationship with a guy no one’s protective of?
The first time he came over he had treats for the cat, who now only attacks him rarely. He tolerates her with what I think of as superhuman patience, and I appreciate him for it. He’s teaching her to play paw hockey with treats. Daisy is kind of an asshole, he would be justified in ignoring her, but he doesn’t. It makes me feel good. What else? He’s helped with one family move, has helped deal with babies who were spitting up, and has been helping my neighbor here and there because he has a broken ankle. I’ve assisted in his daughter’s house renovation and helped move his mom out of the house she’d lived in for one million years, as well as held fussy babies and chatted up old people at his family gatherings. It’s my job to make sure his mom doesn’t fall over when he’s parking the car when we take her home. She’s unsteady.
I’m on Facebook, and have been friended by his daughter as well as a niece and nephew. What do I care if they stalk my page? What dirt are they going to find? OH NO NOT THE APPLE PICKING PHOTOS FROM 2009!!!
So anyway, are you acting like someone they could see themselves in a relationship with? It’s weird that the women you’re encountering are attached to such uniformly unfriendly people and are so easily swayed by their opinions. This has not been my personal or observed experience at all.
Lastly, this:
Suggests that either you date idiots or you don’t have much respect for either all women or the ones you’re looking to pin down. Could this be the problem? If a man assumed that I was shallow enough to like or dislike people based on Daisy’s opinion of them as expressed by leg rubbing, I would have trouble being polite during the time it took me to dump him.
a chick with a cat is much better than a chick with small yippie rodent, err i mean dog.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
a chick with a cat is much better than a chick with small yippie rodent, err i mean dog. [/quote]
I agree. Big dog > cat > small dog.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Have you ever wondered what post menopausal divorced or widowed women want?
Probably not. But there may be some people here that fall into the same dating category as myself. Mature gentleman who is single and still sexually active.
Part 1. It is very simple to get laid. With maturity comes experience and probably financial security. So put me in the same room with a mature woman who has not had any action in a while and get one drink into her and I can score more often than not. Getting into a relationship with her is the very difficult part.
Part 2. Relationship. Statistics show that 80% of mature single women are perfectly happy to stay single. They are like sexual camels. They can go a very long time without scratching the itch.
They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.
Their kids. Same as their friends. Nobody wants some dude fucking their mother. You will never be good enough for the kid’s approval. So when they want you to meet their kids find any excuse to decline. Also don’t have a FaceBook account. Their kids will find it and go back as far as possible and find something to use against you.
Their cat. This is where you make the big points. If their cat likes you then they will like you. Problem is fucking cats don’t like anybody. So cheat. Put catnip in your socks. When you meet the cat, the cat will start rubbing all over your ankles and showing a lot of attention. It appears that the cat likes you. You win. [/quote]
I’m not in this category, but my best friend is 13 years older than I am, so is, and it will be here eventually for me. I can’t see much changing between now and then (insofar as family, friends, cat). I’m surprised by your want-to-stay-single statistic, but a quick google supports that at least many women feel that way. That’s not the attitude of the women I know. My friends tend to be attachment-oriented and may not be representative, however I have to imagine that much of what you’ve said is specific to either you or the women you are dating, or possibly both.
My own experience as both a friend of women who are dating and as a divorced woman myself is that people want their loved ones to be happy. I’ve recently been subjected to an in-depth interview by my boyfriend’s daughter and can say that although the daughter is watchful she’s been incredibly welcoming, as has his entire family. Mine has been the same toward him. He and I are both decent people. How can they not like either of us? His daughter’s concern is normal and I accept it cheerfully. He’s a dad with protective kid - a good sign in my opinion. Do I want to be in a relationship with a guy no one’s protective of?
The first time he came over he had treats for the cat, who now only attacks him rarely. He tolerates her with what I think of as superhuman patience, and I appreciate him for it. He’s teaching her to play paw hockey with treats. Daisy is kind of an asshole, he would be justified in ignoring her, but he doesn’t. It makes me feel good. What else? He’s helped with one family move, has helped deal with babies who were spitting up, and has been helping my neighbor here and there because he has a broken ankle. I’ve assisted in his daughter’s house renovation and helped move his mom out of the house she’d lived in for one million years, as well as held fussy babies and chatted up old people at his family gatherings. It’s my job to make sure his mom doesn’t fall over when he’s parking the car when we take her home. She’s unsteady.
I’m on Facebook, and have been friended by his daughter as well as a niece and nephew. What do I care if they stalk my page? What dirt are they going to find? OH NO NOT THE APPLE PICKING PHOTOS FROM 2009!!!
So anyway, are you acting like someone they could see themselves in a relationship with? It’s weird that the women you’re encountering are attached to such uniformly unfriendly people and are so easily swayed by their opinions. This has not been my personal or observed experience at all.
Lastly, this:
Suggests that either you date idiots or you don’t have much respect for either all women or the ones you’re looking to pin down. Could this be the problem? If a man assumed that I was shallow enough to like or dislike people based on Daisy’s opinion of them as expressed by leg rubbing, I would have trouble being polite the during the time it took me to dump him.
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A very articulate and well thought out response. Your man is fortunate for having met you and I am happy that you don’t fall into the profile of people I have met. But by your admission you are quite a bit younger than most of the women I have been dating.
Join date 07, 4,000+ posts, You win the discussion by default, this being an internet forum.
I am going to go check my Plenty-Of-Fish account. A holiday weekend is approaching and I need to set up a few coffee shop meets. Still hoping to find the right match.
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Have you ever wondered what post menopausal divorced or widowed women want?
Probably not. But there may be some people here that fall into the same dating category as myself. Mature gentleman who is single and still sexually active.
Part 1. It is very simple to get laid. With maturity comes experience and probably financial security. So put me in the same room with a mature woman who has not had any action in a while and get one drink into her and I can score more often than not. Getting into a relationship with her is the very difficult part.
Part 2. Relationship. Statistics show that 80% of mature single women are perfectly happy to stay single. They are like sexual camels. They can go a very long time without scratching the itch.
They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.
Their kids. Same as their friends. Nobody wants some dude fucking their mother. You will never be good enough for the kid’s approval. So when they want you to meet their kids find any excuse to decline. Also don’t have a FaceBook account. Their kids will find it and go back as far as possible and find something to use against you.
Their cat. This is where you make the big points. If their cat likes you then they will like you. Problem is fucking cats don’t like anybody. So cheat. Put catnip in your socks. When you meet the cat, the cat will start rubbing all over your ankles and showing a lot of attention. It appears that the cat likes you. You win. [/quote]
I’m not in this category, but my best friend is 13 years older than I am, so is, and it will be here eventually for me. I can’t see much changing between now and then (insofar as family, friends, cat). I’m surprised by your want-to-stay-single statistic, but a quick google supports that at least many women feel that way. That’s not the attitude of the women I know. My friends tend to be attachment-oriented and may not be representative, however I have to imagine that much of what you’ve said is specific to either you or the women you are dating, or possibly both.
My own experience as both a friend of women who are dating and as a divorced woman myself is that people want their loved ones to be happy. I’ve recently been subjected to an in-depth interview by my boyfriend’s daughter and can say that although the daughter is watchful she’s been incredibly welcoming, as has his entire family. Mine has been the same toward him. He and I are both decent people. How can they not like either of us? His daughter’s concern is normal and I accept it cheerfully. He’s a dad with protective kid - a good sign in my opinion. Do I want to be in a relationship with a guy no one’s protective of?
The first time he came over he had treats for the cat, who now only attacks him rarely. He tolerates her with what I think of as superhuman patience, and I appreciate him for it. He’s teaching her to play paw hockey with treats. Daisy is kind of an asshole, he would be justified in ignoring her, but he doesn’t. It makes me feel good. What else? He’s helped with one family move, has helped deal with babies who were spitting up, and has been helping my neighbor here and there because he has a broken ankle. I’ve assisted in his daughter’s house renovation and helped move his mom out of the house she’d lived in for one million years, as well as held fussy babies and chatted up old people at his family gatherings. It’s my job to make sure his mom doesn’t fall over when he’s parking the car when we take her home. She’s unsteady.
I’m on Facebook, and have been friended by his daughter as well as a niece and nephew. What do I care if they stalk my page? What dirt are they going to find? OH NO NOT THE APPLE PICKING PHOTOS FROM 2009!!!
So anyway, are you acting like someone they could see themselves in a relationship with? It’s weird that the women you’re encountering are attached to such uniformly unfriendly people and are so easily swayed by their opinions. This has not been my personal or observed experience at all.
Lastly, this:
Suggests that either you date idiots or you don’t have much respect for either all women or the ones you’re looking to pin down. Could this be the problem? If a man assumed that I was shallow enough to like or dislike people based on Daisy’s opinion of them as expressed by leg rubbing, I would have trouble being polite the during the time it took me to dump him.
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A very articulate and well thought out response. Your man is fortunate for having met you and I am happy that you don’t fall into the profile of people I have met. But by your admission you are quite a bit younger than most of the women I have been dating.
Join date 07, 4,000+ posts, You win the discussion by default, this being an internet forum.
I am going to go check my Plenty-Of-Fish account. A holiday weekend is approaching and I need to set up a few coffee shop meets. Still hoping to find the right match. [/quote]
Bear in mind that I have a friend in your category and her experience seems to closely match my own.
It occurred to me while showering that you are probably cutting your odds with the above-listed strategies. Meeting the family is a HUGE thing, and you should be flattered by the opportunity. My first boyfriend didn’t get the invitation until we’d been dating for well over a year. He, on the other hand, introduced me to his parents within a few months (they were in from out of town). In retrospect, it took me that long because there were issues and I didn’t trust that there would be a long term with him. As indeed there was not.
My new guy is already woven into the fabric of my life, and I his, at the six month mark. If a man I was seeing balked at meeting my friends or family I would eliminate him. A relationship with me is a relationship with the people I love. Some are assholes (like Daisy). Some are wonderful. That’s life, no?
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Join date 07, 4,000+ posts, You win the discussion by default, this being an internet forum.
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P.S. This is an odd thing to say. You sound a little victimized here, as with the family and friends thing.
Do you think if the forum disagreed with my post I’d change my stance?
Edit, P.P.S. Thank you for the nice compliment. I’m lucky to have met him, too.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Have you ever wondered what post menopausal divorced or widowed women want?
Probably not. But there may be some people here that fall into the same dating category as myself. Mature gentleman who is single and still sexually active.
Part 1. It is very simple to get laid. With maturity comes experience and probably financial security. So put me in the same room with a mature woman who has not had any action in a while and get one drink into her and I can score more often than not. Getting into a relationship with her is the very difficult part.
Part 2. Relationship. Statistics show that 80% of mature single women are perfectly happy to stay single. They are like sexual camels. They can go a very long time without scratching the itch.
They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.
Their kids. Same as their friends. Nobody wants some dude fucking their mother. You will never be good enough for the kid’s approval. So when they want you to meet their kids find any excuse to decline. Also don’t have a FaceBook account. Their kids will find it and go back as far as possible and find something to use against you.
Their cat. This is where you make the big points. If their cat likes you then they will like you. Problem is fucking cats don’t like anybody. So cheat. Put catnip in your socks. When you meet the cat, the cat will start rubbing all over your ankles and showing a lot of attention. It appears that the cat likes you. You win. [/quote]
I’m not in this category, but my best friend is 13 years older than I am, so is, and it will be here eventually for me. I can’t see much changing between now and then (insofar as family, friends, cat). I’m surprised by your want-to-stay-single statistic, but a quick google supports that at least many women feel that way. That’s not the attitude of the women I know. My friends tend to be attachment-oriented and may not be representative, however I have to imagine that much of what you’ve said is specific to either you or the women you are dating, or possibly both.
My own experience as both a friend of women who are dating and as a divorced woman myself is that people want their loved ones to be happy. I’ve recently been subjected to an in-depth interview by my boyfriend’s daughter and can say that although the daughter is watchful she’s been incredibly welcoming, as has his entire family. Mine has been the same toward him. He and I are both decent people. How can they not like either of us? His daughter’s concern is normal and I accept it cheerfully. He’s a dad with protective kid - a good sign in my opinion. Do I want to be in a relationship with a guy no one’s protective of?
The first time he came over he had treats for the cat, who now only attacks him rarely. He tolerates her with what I think of as superhuman patience, and I appreciate him for it. He’s teaching her to play paw hockey with treats. Daisy is kind of an asshole, he would be justified in ignoring her, but he doesn’t. It makes me feel good. What else? He’s helped with one family move, has helped deal with babies who were spitting up, and has been helping my neighbor here and there because he has a broken ankle. I’ve assisted in his daughter’s house renovation and helped move his mom out of the house she’d lived in for one million years, as well as held fussy babies and chatted up old people at his family gatherings. It’s my job to make sure his mom doesn’t fall over when he’s parking the car when we take her home. She’s unsteady.
I’m on Facebook, and have been friended by his daughter as well as a niece and nephew. What do I care if they stalk my page? What dirt are they going to find? OH NO NOT THE APPLE PICKING PHOTOS FROM 2009!!!
So anyway, are you acting like someone they could see themselves in a relationship with? It’s weird that the women you’re encountering are attached to such uniformly unfriendly people and are so easily swayed by their opinions. This has not been my personal or observed experience at all.
Lastly, this:
Suggests that either you date idiots or you don’t have much respect for either all women or the ones you’re looking to pin down. Could this be the problem? If a man assumed that I was shallow enough to like or dislike people based on Daisy’s opinion of them as expressed by leg rubbing, I would have trouble being polite the during the time it took me to dump him.
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I noticed that you responded to each point and internalized the responses from your life. Why did you do this or feel the need to respond this way? I find women respond very often in this manner. Btw, I’m just curious, however curiosity killed the cat…lol
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Have you ever wondered what post menopausal divorced or widowed women want?
Probably not. But there may be some people here that fall into the same dating category as myself. Mature gentleman who is single and still sexually active.
Part 1. It is very simple to get laid. With maturity comes experience and probably financial security. So put me in the same room with a mature woman who has not had any action in a while and get one drink into her and I can score more often than not. Getting into a relationship with her is the very difficult part.
Part 2. Relationship. Statistics show that 80% of mature single women are perfectly happy to stay single. They are like sexual camels. They can go a very long time without scratching the itch.
Their kids. Same as their friends. Nobody wants some dude fucking their mother. You will never be good enough for the kid’s approval. So when they want you to meet their kids find any excuse to decline. Also don’t have a They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.
FaceBook account. Their kids will find it and go back as far as possible and find something to use against you.
Their cat. This is where you make the big points. If their cat likes you then they will like you. Problem is fucking cats don’t like anybody. So cheat. Put catnip in your socks. When you meet the cat, the cat will start rubbing all over your ankles and showing a lot of attention. It appears that the cat likes you. You win. [/quote]
I’m not in this category, but my best friend is 13 years older than I am, so is, and it will be here eventually for me. I can’t see much changing between now and then (insofar as family, friends, cat). I’m surprised by your want-to-stay-single statistic, but a quick google supports that at least many women feel that way. That’s not the attitude of the women I know. My friends tend to be attachment-oriented and may not be representative, however I have to imagine that much of what you’ve said is specific to either you or the women you are dating, or possibly both.
My own experience as both a friend of women who are dating and as a divorced woman myself is that people want their loved ones to be happy. I’ve recently been subjected to an in-depth interview by my boyfriend’s daughter and can say that although the daughter is watchful she’s been incredibly welcoming, as has his entire family. Mine has been the same toward him. He and I are both decent people. How can they not like either of us? His daughter’s concern is normal and I accept it cheerfully. He’s a dad with protective kid - a good sign in my opinion. Do I want to be in a relationship with a guy no one’s protective of?
The first time he came over he had treats for the cat, who now only attacks him rarely. He tolerates her with what I think of as superhuman patience, and I appreciate him for it. He’s teaching her to play paw hockey with treats. Daisy is kind of an asshole, he would be justified in ignoring her, but he doesn’t. It makes me feel good. What else? He’s helped with one family move, has helped deal with babies who were spitting up, and has been helping my neighbor here and there because he has a broken ankle. I’ve assisted in his daughter’s house renovation and helped move his mom out of the house she’d lived in for one million years, as well as held fussy babies and chatted up old people at his family gatherings. It’s my job to make sure his mom doesn’t fall over when he’s parking the car when we take her home. She’s unsteady.
I’m on Facebook, and have been friended by his daughter as well as a niece and nephew. What do I care if they stalk my page? What dirt are they going to find? OH NO NOT THE APPLE PICKING PHOTOS FROM 2009!!!
So anyway, are you acting like someone they could see themselves in a relationship with? It’s weird that the women you’re encountering are attached to such uniformly unfriendly people and are so easily swayed by their opinions. This has not been my personal or observed experience at all.
Lastly, this:
Suggests that either you date idiots or you don’t have much respect for either all women or the ones you’re looking to pin down. Could this be the problem? If a man assumed that I was shallow enough to like or dislike people based on Daisy’s opinion of them as expressed by leg rubbing, I would have trouble being polite the during the time it took me to dump him.
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I noticed that you responded to each point and internalized the responses from your life. Why did you do this or feel the need to respond this way? I find women respond very often in this manner. Btw, I’m just curious, however curiosity killed the cat…lol
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Because mine is the only experience about which I can speak with any authority. I will often offer observed experience to support my thinking, but that’s only observed.
Certainly I can seek and post statistics or concrete information, and in fact do sometimes (e.g. percentage of women who out-earn husbands, changes to the Violence Against Women Act to increase parity for men) but in the case at hand I’m not sure what data would be helpful. Is that “80% of postmenopausal women do not want relationships” accurate? I suspect other numbers could be obtained if I felt like looking. But what sort of conversation would that make for? “No, no, surveys from UVA show that less than 60% prefer to remain single (add citation here).” So what?
Also, do you make the mistake of believing that this:
[quote]They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.[/quote]
Is based on anything other than one man’s personal experience and his reflections thereupon? I simply acknowledge that my experiences and thoughts are mine, I don’t pretend that I know what all men think. If we’re going to generalize (“I find women respond very often in this manner”) then I might say that men very often represent opinion or experience as fact.
I read what seemed like views based upon personal experience and countered with my own.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Have you ever wondered what post menopausal divorced or widowed women want?
Probably not. But there may be some people here that fall into the same dating category as myself. Mature gentleman who is single and still sexually active.
Part 1. It is very simple to get laid. With maturity comes experience and probably financial security. So put me in the same room with a mature woman who has not had any action in a while and get one drink into her and I can score more often than not. Getting into a relationship with her is the very difficult part.
Part 2. Relationship. Statistics show that 80% of mature single women are perfectly happy to stay single. They are like sexual camels. They can go a very long time without scratching the itch.
Their kids. Same as their friends. Nobody wants some dude fucking their mother. You will never be good enough for the kid’s approval. So when they want you to meet their kids find any excuse to decline. Also don’t have a They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.
FaceBook account. Their kids will find it and go back as far as possible and find something to use against you.
Their cat. This is where you make the big points. If their cat likes you then they will like you. Problem is fucking cats don’t like anybody. So cheat. Put catnip in your socks. When you meet the cat, the cat will start rubbing all over your ankles and showing a lot of attention. It appears that the cat likes you. You win. [/quote]
I’m not in this category, but my best friend is 13 years older than I am, so is, and it will be here eventually for me. I can’t see much changing between now and then (insofar as family, friends, cat). I’m surprised by your want-to-stay-single statistic, but a quick google supports that at least many women feel that way. That’s not the attitude of the women I know. My friends tend to be attachment-oriented and may not be representative, however I have to imagine that much of what you’ve said is specific to either you or the women you are dating, or possibly both.
My own experience as both a friend of women who are dating and as a divorced woman myself is that people want their loved ones to be happy. I’ve recently been subjected to an in-depth interview by my boyfriend’s daughter and can say that although the daughter is watchful she’s been incredibly welcoming, as has his entire family. Mine has been the same toward him. He and I are both decent people. How can they not like either of us? His daughter’s concern is normal and I accept it cheerfully. He’s a dad with protective kid - a good sign in my opinion. Do I want to be in a relationship with a guy no one’s protective of?
The first time he came over he had treats for the cat, who now only attacks him rarely. He tolerates her with what I think of as superhuman patience, and I appreciate him for it. He’s teaching her to play paw hockey with treats. Daisy is kind of an asshole, he would be justified in ignoring her, but he doesn’t. It makes me feel good. What else? He’s helped with one family move, has helped deal with babies who were spitting up, and has been helping my neighbor here and there because he has a broken ankle. I’ve assisted in his daughter’s house renovation and helped move his mom out of the house she’d lived in for one million years, as well as held fussy babies and chatted up old people at his family gatherings. It’s my job to make sure his mom doesn’t fall over when he’s parking the car when we take her home. She’s unsteady.
I’m on Facebook, and have been friended by his daughter as well as a niece and nephew. What do I care if they stalk my page? What dirt are they going to find? OH NO NOT THE APPLE PICKING PHOTOS FROM 2009!!!
So anyway, are you acting like someone they could see themselves in a relationship with? It’s weird that the women you’re encountering are attached to such uniformly unfriendly people and are so easily swayed by their opinions. This has not been my personal or observed experience at all.
Lastly, this:
Suggests that either you date idiots or you don’t have much respect for either all women or the ones you’re looking to pin down. Could this be the problem? If a man assumed that I was shallow enough to like or dislike people based on Daisy’s opinion of them as expressed by leg rubbing, I would have trouble being polite the during the time it took me to dump him.
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I noticed that you responded to each point and internalized the responses from your life. Why did you do this or feel the need to respond this way? I find women respond very often in this manner. Btw, I’m just curious, however curiosity killed the cat…lol
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Because mine is the only experience about which I can speak with any authority. I will often offer observed experience to support my thinking, but that’s only observed.
Certainly I can seek and post statistics or concrete information, and in fact do sometimes (e.g. percentage of women who out-earn husbands, changes to the Violence Against Women Act to increase parity for men) but in the case at hand I’m not sure what data would be helpful. Is that “80% of postmenopausal women do not want relationships” accurate? I suspect other numbers could be obtained if I felt like looking. But what sort of conversation would that make for? “No, no, surveys from UVA show that less than 60% prefer to remain single (add citation here).” So what?
Also, do you make the mistake of believing that this:
[quote]They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.[/quote]
Is based on anything other than one man’s personal experience and reflections thereupon? I simply acknowledge that my experiences and thoughts are mine, I don’t pretend that I know what all men think. If we’re going to generalize (“I find women respond very often in this manner”) then I might say that men very often represent opinion or experience as fact.
I read what seemed like views based upon personal experience and countered with my own.
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Fair enough. To clarify, I was just curious how you responded, not questioning the validity of the response.
While there are some half truths in the quoted passage written by dpcavana. It seems slightly bitter and self aggrandizing at the same time. However, I do not pursue post menopausal women. If I’m ever with one, she will be my wife.
This is just a personal observation. Men and women become bitter and jaded towards relationships with age imo.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]dpcavana wrote:
Have you ever wondered what post menopausal divorced or widowed women want?
Probably not. But there may be some people here that fall into the same dating category as myself. Mature gentleman who is single and still sexually active.
Part 1. It is very simple to get laid. With maturity comes experience and probably financial security. So put me in the same room with a mature woman who has not had any action in a while and get one drink into her and I can score more often than not. Getting into a relationship with her is the very difficult part.
Part 2. Relationship. Statistics show that 80% of mature single women are perfectly happy to stay single. They are like sexual camels. They can go a very long time without scratching the itch.
Their kids. Same as their friends. Nobody wants some dude fucking their mother. You will never be good enough for the kid’s approval. So when they want you to meet their kids find any excuse to decline. Also don’t have a They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.
FaceBook account. Their kids will find it and go back as far as possible and find something to use against you.
Their cat. This is where you make the big points. If their cat likes you then they will like you. Problem is fucking cats don’t like anybody. So cheat. Put catnip in your socks. When you meet the cat, the cat will start rubbing all over your ankles and showing a lot of attention. It appears that the cat likes you. You win. [/quote]
I’m not in this category, but my best friend is 13 years older than I am, so is, and it will be here eventually for me. I can’t see much changing between now and then (insofar as family, friends, cat). I’m surprised by your want-to-stay-single statistic, but a quick google supports that at least many women feel that way. That’s not the attitude of the women I know. My friends tend to be attachment-oriented and may not be representative, however I have to imagine that much of what you’ve said is specific to either you or the women you are dating, or possibly both.
My own experience as both a friend of women who are dating and as a divorced woman myself is that people want their loved ones to be happy. I’ve recently been subjected to an in-depth interview by my boyfriend’s daughter and can say that although the daughter is watchful she’s been incredibly welcoming, as has his entire family. Mine has been the same toward him. He and I are both decent people. How can they not like either of us? His daughter’s concern is normal and I accept it cheerfully. He’s a dad with protective kid - a good sign in my opinion. Do I want to be in a relationship with a guy no one’s protective of?
The first time he came over he had treats for the cat, who now only attacks him rarely. He tolerates her with what I think of as superhuman patience, and I appreciate him for it. He’s teaching her to play paw hockey with treats. Daisy is kind of an asshole, he would be justified in ignoring her, but he doesn’t. It makes me feel good. What else? He’s helped with one family move, has helped deal with babies who were spitting up, and has been helping my neighbor here and there because he has a broken ankle. I’ve assisted in his daughter’s house renovation and helped move his mom out of the house she’d lived in for one million years, as well as held fussy babies and chatted up old people at his family gatherings. It’s my job to make sure his mom doesn’t fall over when he’s parking the car when we take her home. She’s unsteady.
I’m on Facebook, and have been friended by his daughter as well as a niece and nephew. What do I care if they stalk my page? What dirt are they going to find? OH NO NOT THE APPLE PICKING PHOTOS FROM 2009!!!
So anyway, are you acting like someone they could see themselves in a relationship with? It’s weird that the women you’re encountering are attached to such uniformly unfriendly people and are so easily swayed by their opinions. This has not been my personal or observed experience at all.
Lastly, this:
Suggests that either you date idiots or you don’t have much respect for either all women or the ones you’re looking to pin down. Could this be the problem? If a man assumed that I was shallow enough to like or dislike people based on Daisy’s opinion of them as expressed by leg rubbing, I would have trouble being polite the during the time it took me to dump him.
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I noticed that you responded to each point and internalized the responses from your life. Why did you do this or feel the need to respond this way? I find women respond very often in this manner. Btw, I’m just curious, however curiosity killed the cat…lol
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Because mine is the only experience about which I can speak with any authority. I will often offer observed experience to support my thinking, but that’s only observed.
Certainly I can seek and post statistics or concrete information, and in fact do sometimes (e.g. percentage of women who out-earn husbands, changes to the Violence Against Women Act to increase parity for men) but in the case at hand I’m not sure what data would be helpful. Is that “80% of postmenopausal women do not want relationships” accurate? I suspect other numbers could be obtained if I felt like looking. But what sort of conversation would that make for? “No, no, surveys from UVA show that less than 60% prefer to remain single (add citation here).” So what?
Also, do you make the mistake of believing that this:
[quote]They have no idea what they want if they do want a relationship. They DO know what they DON’T want. They don’t want a guy who no longer cares about women. They don’t want a guy who is broke, fat, wears clothes from the 70s, stinks, is creepy, or who cant carry on a conversation. So if you pass the sniff test how do they decide?
Their friends. If they want to introduce you to their friends then you are fucked. Their friends won’t like you no matter what. Because you are taking one of their friends out of their social group and they don’t like that. Also they hate the fact that one of their group has scored and they are jealous and will do anything to break it up.[/quote]
Is based on anything other than one man’s personal experience and reflections thereupon? I simply acknowledge that my experiences and thoughts are mine, I don’t pretend that I know what all men think. If we’re going to generalize (“I find women respond very often in this manner”) then I might say that men very often represent opinion or experience as fact.
I read what seemed like views based upon personal experience and countered with my own.
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Fair enough. To clarify, I was just curious how you responded, not questioning the validity of the response.
While there are some half truths in the quoted passage written by dpcavana. It seems slightly bitter and self aggrandizing at the same time. However, I do not pursue post menopausal women. If I’m ever with one, she will be my wife.
This is just a personal observation. Men and women become bitter and jaded towards relationships with age imo.
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I’m not. I don’t think my current boyfriend or best friend are, either. Perhaps I’ll feel differently after 4-5 more failed relationships, but I suspect I’ll be remarried (or committed to that degree) before I get that far.
My best friend and I have in common that while our marriages were ultimately unsustainable, they were long term and not lacking in love. I think feeling lovable is a strong defense against bitterness.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m on Facebook, and have been friended by his daughter as well as a niece and nephew. What do I care if they stalk my page? What dirt are they going to find? OH NO NOT THE APPLE PICKING PHOTOS FROM 2009!!!
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Lolahahhhaa!!!
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
a chick with a cat is much better than a chick with small yippie rodent, err i mean dog. [/quote]
I agree. Big dog > cat > small dog.
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Big Cat > any other possible pet besides a Wookie.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
a chick with a cat is much better than a chick with small yippie rodent, err i mean dog. [/quote]
I agree. Big dog > cat > small dog.
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Big Cat > any other possible pet besides a Wookie. [/quote]
Going for a walk with your pet Siberian Tiger sure makes a statement.
Now that statement may be “one day my pet will eat me” but until that day, you will look awesome.
Apparently most people who die/get injured from having a big cat as a pet isn’t because it attacks them.
The big cats want to play, like any cat. They knock down the human owner, and realize he’s hurt. So they try to take care of them and move them to a safe place… by picking them up by the back of their neck. Perfectly fine with another cat, but not so much for a human.
/random fact learned from a big cat sanctuary
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Apparently most people who die/get injured from having a big cat as a pet isn’t because it attacks them.
The big cats want to play, like any cat. They knock down the human owner, and realize he’s hurt. So they try to take care of them and move them to a safe place… by picking them up by the back of their neck. Perfectly fine with another cat, but not so much for a human.
/random fact learned from a big cat sanctuary[/quote]
You’re right. Just like how most bear maulings are basically a bitch slap.
And… a random phone photo from the big cat sanctuary. Nothing more than a 10 gauge fence separating you from a 550lb tiger.
Because, you know, cats.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
And… a random phone photo from the big cat sanctuary. Nothing more than a 10 gauge fence separating you from a 550lb tiger.
Because, you know, cats.[/quote]
Yeah, man. They aren’t super strong though. Can’t jump either. You’re good. Don’t worry.