'Bodybuilders Ain't Strong'

power_bulker · July 27, 2009, 7:25am

This guy is unreal… Greg Doucette, canadian elite powerlifter and sponsored pro bodybuilder:

sumo deadlifts, 600lbs x 10: Greg "Mutant" Doucette 600 for 12 reps deadlift May 21,09 - YouTube

BB bench 275lbs x 32: Greg "Mutant" Doucette King of the bench for reps 275 * 32 - YouTube

Pretty cool.

system · July 27, 2009, 8:21am

Allen Baria bench 405x25, 500x10

Brother_Chris · July 27, 2009, 8:27am

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Having Ed Coan slap you to sike you up for a lift adds 50 pounds to your max.[/quote]

To bad he got a no lift.

Brother_Chris · July 27, 2009, 8:29am

I watched all of them, and they all did partials, assisted lifts, half squats, one inch benches, etc. That ain’t going to build muscle. These guys need full range of motion. All that muscle is going to turn into fat if they don’t start going through the ROM. Don’t get me on the assisted lifts, bunch of pansies.

See ya on the dark side.

IQ1 · July 27, 2009, 1:52pm

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
IQ wrote:
Ben White & Jonnie Jackson are having a bench press & deadlift competition at this years Olympia, which I think is a great idea and may even get some people to take bodybuilders more seriously (as athletes).

What do you think?

i’m all for it

are they just hosting it or competing also? i don’t know if they’re actually in the O or not this year but if they are i don’t think it’d be a good idea to try and pull a record deadlift on the same day you haven’t even had a glass of water.[/quote]

They’re doing it instead of the Olympia, it’s White vs. Jackson.

Expect both of them to big be BIG.

DoubleDuce · July 27, 2009, 2:19pm

First, as I’ve pointed out earlier, comparing to sets that aren’t mutually exclusive is stupid. Let’s compare sports cars to 2 door cars and argue which is better. There is way too much overlap to make an intelligent comparison.

All you can really compare is individual people.

I also know the reason people start this argument. It was a little thing I picked up on living in Mississippi.

I’m from Atlanta, went to Georgia Tech, and like my college football. When I moved out to Mississippi, I was around people of 2 persuasions, MSU and Ole Miss. For those unaware of the south east college football scene, GT is in the ACC and ole miss and MSU are in the SEC. The 2 conferences hate each other. And yes, the SEC is in general the better football conference (though GT has 5 SEC titles on its’ resume). Whenever I would get into a discussion about said football and about who was better, both state and ole miss fans would always resort to 1 and only 1 argument. They would argue conference rather than team. Why? Because their teams sucked. They had to brag about of other teams in their conference, because that was the only argument they could make.

You see people that generally start the debate about whose sport is stronger, do so because they themselves are weak. Rather than let their accomplishments speak for themselves, they have to try brag about the abilities of others. That way a 130 pound skinny fat teenager curling his fisher price dumbbells in the squat rack can criticize the strength of a guy who is lifting more weight than they can even claim through a keyboard.

austin_bicep · July 27, 2009, 4:09pm

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
First, as I’ve pointed out earlier, comparing to sets that aren’t mutually exclusive is stupid. Let’s compare sports cars to 2 door cars and argue which is better. There is way too much overlap to make an intelligent comparison.

All you can really compare is individual people.

I also know the reason people start this argument. It was a little thing I picked up on living in Mississippi.

I’m from Atlanta, went to Georgia Tech, and like my college football. When I moved out to Mississippi, I was around people of 2 persuasions, MSU and Ole Miss. For those unaware of the south east college football scene, GT is in the ACC and ole miss and MSU are in the SEC. The 2 conferences hate each other. And yes, the SEC is in general the better football conference (though GT has 5 SEC titles on its’ resume). Whenever I would get into a discussion about said football and about who was better, both state and ole miss fans would always resort to 1 and only 1 argument. They would argue conference rather than team. Why? Because their teams sucked. They had to brag about of other teams in their conference, because that was the only argument they could make.

You see people that generally start the debate about whose sport is stronger, do so because they themselves are weak. Rather than let their accomplishments speak for themselves, they have to try brag about the abilities of others. That way a 130 pound skinny fat teenager curling his fisher price dumbbells in the squat rack can criticize the strength of a guy who is lifting more weight than they can even claim through a keyboard.
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The point of this thread was to show that heavy lifting is what builds muscle. I also pointed out that many of these guys were or are powerlifters. I know that Levrone and Ronnie have powerlifting history, and Jackson is a powerlifter.

The intent was not to start a debate, who is stronger, powerlifters or bodybuilders.

In all honesty people act as though powerlifters and bodybuilders are two different breeds of human being, but in all honesty we are all the same, and there are going to be extremely strong bodybuilders and powerlifters alike.

I have no problem admitting either that I am not as strong as any of the guys I mentioned, because at 19 years old I’d be in the record books if I moved the weight Ronnie could.

I am comfortable enough to know that I am stronger than the majority of adults and definitely the lare majority of my peers that lift, so I hope your post was not directed at me because you would be very mistaken.

Liv92 · July 27, 2009, 4:35pm

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
First, as I’ve pointed out earlier, comparing to sets that aren’t mutually exclusive is stupid. Let’s compare sports cars to 2 door cars and argue which is better. There is way too much overlap to make an intelligent comparison.

All you can really compare is individual people.

I also know the reason people start this argument. It was a little thing I picked up on living in Mississippi.

I’m from Atlanta, went to Georgia Tech, and like my college football. When I moved out to Mississippi, I was around people of 2 persuasions, MSU and Ole Miss. For those unaware of the south east college football scene, GT is in the ACC and ole miss and MSU are in the SEC. The 2 conferences hate each other. And yes, the SEC is in general the better football conference (though GT has 5 SEC titles on its’ resume). Whenever I would get into a discussion about said football and about who was better, both state and ole miss fans would always resort to 1 and only 1 argument. They would argue conference rather than team. Why? Because their teams sucked. They had to brag about of other teams in their conference, because that was the only argument they could make.

You see people that generally start the debate about whose sport is stronger, do so because they themselves are weak. Rather than let their accomplishments speak for themselves, they have to try brag about the abilities of others. That way a 130 pound skinny fat teenager curling his fisher price dumbbells in the squat rack can criticize the strength of a guy who is lifting more weight than they can even claim through a keyboard.

The point of this thread was to show that heavy lifting is what builds muscle. I also pointed out that many of these guys were or are powerlifters. I know that Levrone and Ronnie have powerlifting history, and Jackson is a powerlifter.

The intent was not to start a debate, who is stronger, powerlifters or bodybuilders.

In all honesty people act as though powerlifters and bodybuilders are two different breeds of human being, but in all honesty we are all the same, and there are going to be extremely strong bodybuilders and powerlifters alike.

I have no problem admitting either that I am not as strong as any of the guys I mentioned, because at 19 years old I’d be in the record books if I moved the weight Ronnie could.

I am comfortable enough to know that I am stronger than the majority of adults and definitely the lare majority of my peers that lift, so I hope your post was not directed at me because you would be very mistaken.[/quote]

You need to get off your high throne.

austin_bicep · July 27, 2009, 4:45pm

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
First, as I’ve pointed out earlier, comparing to sets that aren’t mutually exclusive is stupid. Let’s compare sports cars to 2 door cars and argue which is better. There is way too much overlap to make an intelligent comparison.